[VIDEO] Zerg Squad EU // Clash of the Premades

MLRPZ

Hello,

Let me introduce you latest ZS Video. As always, thanks for all the oponents involved for the good fights.
Special thanks to Morostyle, our next level cameraman.
Enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElBjy55j6Gs&t=1s

killimandrosb16_ESO

Poor cyrodiils fist....they went pretty fast down under you.
A lot of players dont realize the structure, environmental awareness from the leader and the coordination from the rest of the group require to execute these PBAoE attacks. Unfortunately I dont think as I might have mentioned earlier, there is much competition for you on cyrodiil EU anymore, still I enjoy your teamplay against inferior opponents and look forward to the day (if ever) more coordinated groups roam around cyrodiil again. If each faction had 3-4 coordinated groups like that, the whole scene would change dramatically to the better, the megazergs would be broken up and there would be room for smallscalers too, even roaming 1vx players would probably find the lakes more forgivable. So I say yes to all coordinated groupplay, and something for those aspiring to aim for

Aki-Ral

GG.

Also this is only possible because of OP argonians .

DivineFirstYOLO

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

Prince_of_all_Pugs

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

thats so true..... so many modern grps zerg surf, even on NA.

Etaniel

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

Or maybe because a lot of people who were in competing groups ended up joining their ranks

Azurya

Aki-Ral wrote: »

GG.

Also this is only possible because of OP argonians .

if you don´t get the whole pic, better write nothing!

@MLRPZ , well done, I know how much coordination and hours of groupplay it takes to get to such perfection, respect!

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

haha denksch wohl wärsch krass in ball gruppe rumzulaufen AHAHAHAHHA

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

Nice!

AyelineESO

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

haha denksch wohl wärsch krass in ball gruppe rumzulaufen AHAHAHAHHA

haha denksch wohl wärsch krass deutsch in einem englischen Forum zu schreiben AHAHAHAHHA

Time to learn to write proper german before commenting.

btt:

Nice video as always. I am even in some of the clips

FakeZavos

Etaniel wrote: »

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

Or maybe because a lot of people who were in competing groups ended up joining their ranks

Players from opposing teams joined us because their groups stopped. So they werent competition anyway anymore

FakeZavos

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

haha denksch wohl wärsch krass in ball gruppe rumzulaufen AHAHAHAHHA

Willst du es versuchen? Ich bin sicher, du wirst super gut sein

Fel

Etaniel wrote: »

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

Or maybe because a lot of people who were in competing groups ended up joining their ranks

well, old BS would have downsized the grp for a new challenge instead of adding new Players all the time

FakeZavos

Fel wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

Or maybe because a lot of people who were in competing groups ended up joining their ranks

well, old BS would have downsized the grp for a new challenge instead of adding new Players all the time

Well, since the general faction zerg is getting bigger and bigger since there are only 2 or 3 fights in general on the map. We kinda have to adapt to that. Doesnt mean we go 24 man ofcourse. But we use to be able to play with 12. Now if we have that number we fight 70 DC pugs with blackswords bombing us aswell for example. Simply not possible anymore with those small groups. We wanna be as effective as possible, not as small as possible. And we figured out that we are most effective in a group of around 16-18 people. More then challenging enough.

Bosov

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

c) There are a lot of player who would rather delete ESO than play the way ZS plays. Obiviously you can play how you want but a lot of people have no interest in playing sub <20 fps at all time and have their ''role'' and spam the required skills. Im pretty sure if a group of good smallscale/solo players started ZS type of group they could give ZS a run for their money.

Etaniel

Bosov wrote: »

DivineFirstYOLO wrote: »

@killimandrosb16_ESO wanna know why there is not much competition for ZS?

a) cause they are the best for a long time at what they do,

b) it's not about the lack of other groups to compete with, it's the fact that 90% of other groups rather zerg surf instead of trying to get experience playing on their own.


nice vid as always !

c) There are a lot of player who would rather delete ESO than play the way ZS plays. Obiviously you can play how you want but a lot of people have no interest in playing sub <20 fps at all time and have their ''role'' and spam the required skills. Im pretty sure if a group of good smallscale/solo players started ZS type of group they could give ZS a run for their money.

Well ZS is originally BS which was originally a great group of small scalers. So naturally, a good group of small scalers could give them a run for their money, with time and practice of course. The problem is I think that such players aren't attracted by that play style, and if they are, they probably don't have many friends that are, and so they'd rather join ZS than form competition.

MLRPZ

The problem is that with the stacking happening nowadays, fighting away from your faction with a 8 man group is not really successful.
BS was small scale at the beginning of the game aswell, when I joined them in Q4 of 2015 we were already playing med scale (10-12)

Aldul

@Sanct16 I'd love to hear ya'll thoughts on AoE cap removal. I'm gonna annoy you ingame pretty soon xD
keep up the good work, say hello to doges and stop dodging my premade you crazyasses xD

Mayrael

Well I respect your skills and team play, you really know how to roll, can't take it from you But back in the deep past I was running with Shido few times (DISCIPLINE!) and must say it's not my cup of tea, yes its extremly effective but boring af and leaves no space for individuals Nevertheless nice vid

Vilestride

Mayrael wrote: »

Well I respect your skills and team play, you really know how to roll, can't take it from you But back in the deep past I was running with Shido few times (DISCIPLINE!) and must say it's not my cup of tea, yes its extremly effective but boring af and leaves no space for individuals Nevertheless nice vid

Individualism is a construct of the ego. We are all one, and can accomplish more when we embrace that.

Mayrael

Vilestride wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Well I respect your skills and team play, you really know how to roll, can't take it from you But back in the deep past I was running with Shido few times (DISCIPLINE!) and must say it's not my cup of tea, yes its extremly effective but boring af and leaves no space for individuals Nevertheless nice vid

Individualism is a construct of the ego. We are all one, and can accomplish more when we embrace that.

Sounds like comunism a bit xD

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO

Mayrael wrote: »

Vilestride wrote: »

Mayrael wrote: »

Well I respect your skills and team play, you really know how to roll, can't take it from you But back in the deep past I was running with Shido few times (DISCIPLINE!) and must say it's not my cup of tea, yes its extremly effective but boring af and leaves no space for individuals Nevertheless nice vid

Individualism is a construct of the ego. We are all one, and can accomplish more when we embrace that.

Sounds like comunism a bit xD

Don't get Vile started XD

Equally what people often misunderstand is that in groups like this there are many opportunities for individual players to make a huge impact on the fight. To use a football analogy (because sanct) a manager can direct the team but the players have to perform and make decisions too.
The larger the group size (swat being 24-60 back in the day) the less this is true however because the overall contribution you can make to any action is somewhat divided by the number of players performing your role.

Morgul667

Im not that impressed by zergs

destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it, no fun for me or for the pug opponent.

Anyway cool stuff and you guys really master it, there s no discussion there but its definitly not a playstyke i like

Leandor

Bosov wrote: »

Im pretty sure if a group of good smallscale/solo players started ZS type of group they could give ZS a run for their money.

The strength of ZS has always been a one-of-a-kind raid leader combined with the willingness of the others to do what they are told to do. The make or break for any other group is going to be the lead.

runningtings

Fair play to Zerg Squad and how they want to play, but its way too boring for me to either play against or play like.

Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown just doesn't do it for me, but hey each to their own.

Sanct16

The problem with you people is that you don't understand what is important to be successful as a group. Seeing comments like "destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it", "Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown" is like saying in a football match "you chase after a ball and kick it away".

FakeZavos

Bosov wrote: »

Im pretty sure if a group of good smallscale/solo players started ZS type of group they could give ZS a run for their money.

Problem is, alot of good smallscale and solo players are actually in Zerg Squad...

AyelineESO

Sanct16 wrote: »

The problem with you people is that you don't understand what is important to be successful as a group. Seeing comments like "destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it", "Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown" is like saying in a football match "you chase after a ball and kick it away".

Liebs got rekt there haha

Morgul667

Sanct16 wrote: »

The problem with you people is that you don't understand what is important to be successful as a group. Seeing comments like "destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it", "Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown" is like saying in a football match "you chase after a ball and kick it away".

Or we tried it and understand it but cant agree this actually requires the same amount of skills than small scale pvp

The zerg squad is basically repeating the same move, rinse and repeat. I face them sometimes yes in pug or small group i stand no chance. Yes it needs coordination but no this is not impressive in my book, at least not as much as some small scaler i fave and can pull some great fights. This of course is my opinion and subjective.

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos

Morgul667 wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

The problem with you people is that you don't understand what is important to be successful as a group. Seeing comments like "destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it", "Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown" is like saying in a football match "you chase after a ball and kick it away".

Or we tried it and understand it but cant agree this actually requires the same amount of skills than small scale pvp

The zerg squad is basically repeating the same move, rinse and repeat. I face them sometimes yes in pug or small group i stand no chance. Yes it needs coordination but no this is not impressive in my book, at least not as much as some small scaler i fave and can pull some great fights. This of course is my opinion and subjective.

This can be legitimately answered by someone who has extensive knowledge in all aspects of the game.

Pve, dueling, solo open world, small scale, and pvp raiding. Do you have extensive knowledge in all these areas?

If you equate the hardest action to execute in eso to be that which the least amount of players are actually able to perform then you'll get a hierarchy like this:
Leading a group like ZS ->pvp raiding (zs style)-> dueling -> solo open world -> small scale -> pve.

The problem with this is that 0.0001% of the player base have done all of these on the highest level. All other people just talk and dont actually know anything about that which they opinionate. Just like in politics.

FakeZavos

Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »

Morgul667 wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

The problem with you people is that you don't understand what is important to be successful as a group. Seeing comments like "destro ult, earthgore, basic coordination and thats it", "Running about in a ball spamming 2 buttons and being told what to do by the crown" is like saying in a football match "you chase after a ball and kick it away".

Or we tried it and understand it but cant agree this actually requires the same amount of skills than small scale pvp

The zerg squad is basically repeating the same move, rinse and repeat. I face them sometimes yes in pug or small group i stand no chance. Yes it needs coordination but no this is not impressive in my book, at least not as much as some small scaler i fave and can pull some great fights. This of course is my opinion and subjective.

This can be legitimately answered by someone who has extensive knowledge in all aspects of the game.

Pve, dueling, solo open world, small scale, and pvp raiding. Do you have extensive knowledge in all these areas?

If you equate the hardest action to execute in eso to be that which the least amount of players are actually able to perform then you'll get a hierarchy like this:
Leading a group like ZS ->pvp raiding (zs style)-> dueling -> solo open world -> small scale -> pve.

The problem with this is that 0.0001% of the player base have done all of these on the highest level. All other people just talk and dont actually know anything about that which they opinionate. Just like in politics.

Hail Hail, People run in blackswords group and be like "What ZS does is so easy, I did it too" The only way you know if what ZS does is easy or not is to join ZS or UF. At this time, I cant think of any other guild close to the level of those 2.