Magicka Proc Build

Hutch679 · February 2018

So with the new DB update on the horizon, I can't help but think about the possibility of someone running 5 mad tinkerer/5 caluurion. Yeahhh your resources will be garbage. BUT a double proc in a non CP environment, aka BGs, is gonna be toxic. Any comments?

Trashs1 · February 2018

mad thinkerer is the roly poly set right? if yes its hardly hitting a mooving target because its so small

Lexxypwns · February 2018

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Hutch679 · February 2018

Trashs1 wrote: »

mad thinkerer is the roly poly set right? if yes its hardly hitting a mooving target because its so small

It doesn't move in a straight line though, doesn't it track? What if someone is using a frost staff with frost reach (immobilize)?

Hutch679 · February 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Christ.

Lexxypwns · February 2018

Hutch679 wrote: »

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Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Christ.

You just have to back bar cloak and keep Overwhelming front bar only so it doesn’t ruin your cloaking. Should be over 2k mag regen and you can use shade, cloak, lotus to zip around fights and unload on people. It’s not front loaded though so no ganking

VirtualElizabeth · February 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

What is Cauul? Thanks!

Hutch679 · February 2018

VirtualElizabeth wrote: »

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Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

What is Cauul? Thanks!

He is referring to the Caluurion set releasing in the dragon bones update in February

Minalan · February 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

The new proctato builds are here.

Hutch679 · February 2018

Minalan wrote: »

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Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

The new proctato builds are here.

No doubt. NB proctopus meta.

Lexxypwns · February 2018

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Minalan wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

The new proctato builds are here.

No doubt. NB proctopus meta.

With inner light youre still looking at 3k spell damage and 45% crit on 38k magika

DDuke · February 2018

I don't know about Tinkerer... that proc is sooo slow

Caluurion is awesome though, combined with Stygian it was doing some nasty burst on PTS:
Shadowy Disguise->Lotus Fan[procs]->Concealed(stun)->Caluurion lands->Tether = RIP any medium/light armor player

Still lacked burst to take down heavy armor players with 25k+ health pool though

Derra · February 2018

Hutch679 wrote: »

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Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Christ.

Why zaan though. You can equip skoria which is procced by surge. Proccsets proccing more proccsets. NICE.

DeadlyRecluse · February 2018

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Yep, this is gear combination to be worried about about--and there are ways for almost every magicka build to make it work, though some will be more clunky than others.

And you have Grothdar or Skoria as alternate options for Zaan, depending on your style.

Hutch679 · February 2018

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Hutch679 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Zaan+Surge+Cauul on DW mageblade with atro, WM and regen glyphs

Christ.

Why zaan though. You can equip skoria which is procced by surge. Proccsets proccing more proccsets. NICE.

Dunno I didn't say Zaan. I think maybe Zaan was mentioned by Lex because it seems to be REALLY strong

DeadlyRecluse · February 2018

Also, I believe Zaan in it's early iteration was really ideal for the magblade gank, because you could force the crit with cloak--you could basically guarantee a melee range, simultaneous proc of Zaan and Cauul with a light attack+ability out of cloak.

The teeth have been a bit removed from that with the delay on Cauul and the new proc conditions on Zaan, but it'll still be pretty gnarly.

Waffennacht · February 2018

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

DeadlyRecluse · February 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

FWIW, with the delay on Cauul and the change to Zaan, I don't even think NB gankers will be the optimal user of this setup, as most people will CC break+dodgeroll out of the initial gank--which basically makes them autododge the Cauul proc. We'll see how the exact timing lines up, though.

Hutch679 · February 2018

I can see a mag do being very successful with grothdar/skoria/zaan, caluurion, overwhelming surge. Oh boy.

Hutch679 · February 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

Not happy about either, but realistically we gotta plan because these changes are being added no matter how much we complain... *crocodile tears*

Hutch679 · February 2018

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

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Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

FWIW, with the delay on Cauul and the change to Zaan, I don't even think NB gankers will be the optimal user of this setup, as most people will CC break+dodgeroll out of the initial gank--which basically makes them autododge the Cauul proc. We'll see how the exact timing lines up, though.

True. The build might be better on a mag dk.

ak_pvp · February 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

Because they are dodgable?

I seriously think Zaan is going to be a gimmick set that might be usable for super quick ganky burns, but useless outnumbered since mobility is key and so many around to CC/pressure you away. Skoria for me.

As for caluurion, it has potential to be brokenly strong.

Derra · February 2018

Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

I´m not happy with it. But then bgs go noCP again and we finally get the cannons to keep up with stamproccs now. But then also not a main NB player :P

Warden bird change was inevitable. Having a class being completely undodgeable was simply unhealthy for the game and on top of that made the class unbuffable.
You couldn´t touch warden in any way bc medium armor users would have rioted.

Now they can adress the classes dps issues which will hopefully translate to better pvp performance aswell.

Hutch679 · February 2018

Derra wrote: »

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Waffennacht wrote: »

Stupid.

Stupid.

Then I'm like how can you same players be happy about these while also happy that warden got a nerf?

Prob NB players

I´m not happy with it. But then bgs go noCP again and we finally get the cannons to keep up with stamproccs now. But then also not a main NB player :P

Warden bird change was inevitable. Having a class being completely undodgeable was simply unhealthy for the game and on top of that made the class unbuffable.
You couldn´t touch warden in any way bc medium armor users would have rioted.

Now they can adress the classes dps issues which will hopefully translate to better pvp performance aswell.

Hopefully they buff some of their damage skills or rework some ice skills.

Irylia · February 2018

Or let’s not ☺️
You’d think that with the 1tam backlash and 6 months of proc set abuse we wouldn’t need have to I do this again.
Clearly procs are not how the game should go and more max stat and utility 5x to generate variety is what we need.

Hutch679 · February 2018

Irylia wrote: »

Or let’s not ☺️
You’d think that with the 1tam backlash and 6 months of proc set abuse we wouldn’t need have to I do this again.
Clearly procs are not how the game should go and more max stat and utility 5x to generate variety is what we need.

Couldn't agree more that proc sets ruin the game, however they are still coming to an update near you lol

Minalan · February 2018

Irylia wrote: »

Or let’s not ☺️
You’d think that with the 1tam backlash and 6 months of proc set abuse we wouldn’t need have to I do this again.
Clearly procs are not how the game should go and more max stat and utility 5x to generate variety is what we need.

Someone at ZOS heard our complaints about proc sets and fixed it. Viper and Velidreth in particular. We were happy, the era of instant stamina NB one shot kills ended.

That “someone” at ZOS probably left the company or took a better position, and the window-licker who came up with viper and veli to begin with is still there. Making horrible proc sets.

Subversus · February 2018

Minalan wrote: »

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Irylia wrote: »

Or let’s not ☺️
You’d think that with the 1tam backlash and 6 months of proc set abuse we wouldn’t need have to I do this again.
Clearly procs are not how the game should go and more max stat and utility 5x to generate variety is what we need.

Someone at ZOS heard our complaints about proc sets and fixed it. Viper and Velidreth in particular. We were happy, the era of instant stamina NB one shot kills ended.

That “someone” at ZOS probably left the company or took a better position, and the window-licker who came up with viper and veli to begin with is still there. Making horrible proc sets.

Can't you all see what they are doing? They nerfed proc sets and sustain. The pve crowd is crying, the game is apparently too hard. It's obvious that they want procs into the game to make it easier, what better way to add these very desirable items but with a paid DLC?

The proc set meta is returning, like it or not. ZOS could care less. Now people need to buy the dlc or subscribe to stay competitive.

This is not incompetence from their part, as many of you keep saying. No, loves. This is pure unadultered business.

kaithuzar · February 2018

The question is, how reliable is it?
And does this seem like something you can 1vx with or just a Zerg surf build? Or a gank build?
I am sure it is strong in a one versus one scenario but the minute you have two or three people against you then you should die or it will be viewed as extremely over powered.
Is that the case or is it only good one versus one?