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PLZ ZOS remove or balance mage´s guild and fighters´guild ultimate!

Vandark
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As it is now, it's no fun. Any player who is not a bloody beginner will only use one of these two skills. It makes sense because compared, their own class skills are just weak. Please more balance here! For me, unfortunately, Eso is no fun at the moment if everyone just follows the meta and everywhere only Dawnbreaker and Meteor spamming people are running around. Where is the sense to have 3 skill trees for each class, if only these two ultimates are used anyway? They are (almost) instant, cause a lot of damage and the costs are also manageable. OP!
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  • Narvuntien
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    ???

    I see plenty of other ultimates.

    The only ultimate that completely dominates.. is Aggressive Warhorn on both Tanks and Healers.

    I think the issue is that too many of the class ultimate's are just too defensive and aren't providing the necessary damage amps... or the AoE stuns of Metor and dawnbreaker.
    Edited by Narvuntien on January 28, 2018 1:03PM
  • clocksstoppe
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    You can literally block meteor. It's telegraphed for 2 seconds dude
    Edited by clocksstoppe on January 28, 2018 1:00PM
  • Ep1kMalware
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    Vandark wrote: »
    As it is now, it's no fun. Any player who is not a bloody beginner will only use one of these two skills. It makes sense because compared, their own class skills are just weak. Please more balance here! For me, unfortunately, Eso is no fun at the moment if everyone just follows the meta and everywhere only Dawnbreaker and Meteor spamming people are running around. Where is the sense to have 3 skill trees for each class, if only these two ultimates are used anyway? They are (almost) instant, cause a lot of damage and the costs are also manageable. OP!

    Really? I usually use crescent sweep/rend/or ballista depending on what I'm doing as a dps.

    As a healer I either use warhorn or healing ulti depending on if I'm wearing MA or not.

    As a tank I use warhorn/save my ass armor/ or the snb ulti depending on the content I run.

    Sure I have dawnbreaker slotted, but that means I also have to slot it. I have to give something else up to use it. I have to BALANCE my gain with the loss of a better ulti.

    What's meteor good for? Skyreach? Lmao this post is an ignorant lie.
  • Vapirko
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    Wtf man, is it just me or are the forums nerf city lately. Here’s a few other ultimates that get used regularly in PvE and PvP: destro ultimates, healing thicket, incap strike (both morphs), soul tether, warden frost ulti whatever it’s called, dragon leap (both morphs), suppression field (both morphs), storm atro, and I’m sure there are some I’m missing. But seriously, balance db and comet? Those might be two of the most well balanced skills in the game.
  • Aldruin
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    haHAA meteor most op ulti in the game
    nice bait
  • Lord_Eomer
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    Never have problem with both ultimates, they look balance as is
  • Insandros
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    Wtf man, is it just me or are the forums nerf city lately. Here’s a few other ultimates that get used regularly in PvE and PvP: destro ultimates, healing thicket, incap strike (both morphs), soul tether, warden frost ulti whatever it’s called, dragon leap (both morphs), suppression field (both morphs), storm atro, and I’m sure there are some I’m missing. But seriously, balance db and comet? Those might be two of the most well balanced skills in the game.

    I'm starting to think that people asking for nerfs are people only doing PvP duals in middle of the town, so they only see a few of the things and when they kept loosing 1 v 1 against and they come on here an cry about what they cannot overcome, and as smeone said, metor is clear when it's droping, sound audio and circle around who ever gets it so you can block or step oaway from, well, maybe running vDSA for him wil practice to block it from the bosses that uses meteor so when he goes back in PvP he'll get used to block it or pay attention when he hears the sound, and as he said, people spamming those 2 ulty, who doesn'T spam most of the time their ulty when it's up? But to be honest until Ulty gets taken completly off the game, PvPer will come on here and cry for nerfs, cuz iV'e seen yet, now Dawnbreaker nerf (fighter guild), Meteor nerf (mage guilde), Destro Staff ulty nerf, Warden Ulty Nerf, Sorc's negate ulty nerf and some other i don't recall, but i'm sure mot of them been asked for nerfs, but yeah Ulty should be disabled in cyrodil so PvPer would be happy and PvE not gtting nerf as well, cuz i think until ulty are not taken off in pvp, you'll always someone getting on her and ask for a nerf cuz he can't counter or can't use that ulty on his other classes copied form the net pvp meta builds, as copying somoene's build and stuff, unfortunately doesn't make you copy their skilled reflexes and talents. :) And i don't wanna do discrimination here, but sometimes people for asking for nerfs, i simply start to think of either really young people or older, which have issues with reflexes and stuff...
    Edited by Insandros on January 28, 2018 1:39PM
  • Ratzkifal
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    Ballista? Eye of the storm? The shield ultimate? Warhorn? 2H-ultimate? Negate? Panacea? Templar heal ult? Storm Atro? Incap Strike?! Are you sure we are playing the same game?
    This Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done.
  • Armatesz
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    You can literally block meteor. It's telegraphed for 2 seconds dude

    All it takes is someone to use clench on you and then meteor hits. But yeah meteor is not something imo that needs nerfing.
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  • Armatesz
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    Vandark wrote: »
    As it is now, it's no fun. Any player who is not a bloody beginner will only use one of these two skills. It makes sense because compared, their own class skills are just weak. Please more balance here! For me, unfortunately, Eso is no fun at the moment if everyone just follows the meta and everywhere only Dawnbreaker and Meteor spamming people are running around. Where is the sense to have 3 skill trees for each class, if only these two ultimates are used anyway? They are (almost) instant, cause a lot of damage and the costs are also manageable. OP!

    Really? I usually use crescent sweep/rend/or ballista depending on what I'm doing as a dps.

    As a healer I either use warhorn or healing ulti depending on if I'm wearing MA or not.

    As a tank I use warhorn/save my ass armor/ or the snb ulti depending on the content I run.

    Sure I have dawnbreaker slotted, but that means I also have to slot it. I have to give something else up to use it. I have to BALANCE my gain with the loss of a better ulti.

    What's meteor good for? Skyreach? Lmao this post is an ignorant lie.

    Meteor is kinda good but this is for like stunning enemies and making them fly in the air. Air juggle them I guess.
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  • Chakei
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    My negates have hurt feelings now.
  • Ruckly
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    Dawn breaker is good for the stun <.<. Meteor is good for a spike because of the delay >.>. They are available to all classes without anything about them that makes them OP o.o. OP is someone using eye of the flame to cut down 6-7 people in 5 seconds.
  • JamuThatsWho
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    Remove Ultis that are available to everyone?

    Thanks for the laugh, OP.
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  • Mic1007
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    I only have Flawless Dawnbreaker slotted for the 5% Weapon Damage, and the Fighters Guild passive which gives more. I slot class ultimates on my back-bar and actually use those.
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  • Zorgon_The_Revenged
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    Why is this in "General ESO Discussions"?
  • Chantclaire
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    I can't even remember the last time somebody meteored me...So many other ults that can be considered overused. Also why would they just remove an ultimate because you don't like it.
    Everyone has a plan, until their plan gets nerfed

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  • SoLooney
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    zos is already nerf happy.

    dont be asking for nerfs when you dont even have substantial argument to back up your claim

    overused? does not mean its overpowered. there are plenty of other ultis used in pvp. sounds more of a whine thread. break cc out of dawnbreaker and block meteor. not hard to do
  • KingYogi415
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    Meteor sucks now, L2P.
  • Abysswarrior45
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    I use leap and/or corrosive...

    Also you complain about DB and Meteor when there are ults like destro ult which ignores LOS, helms like earthgore, and finally resto ult?
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    Aldruin wrote: »
    haHAA meteor most op ulti in the game
    nice bait

    Lol. If Meteor gets viewed as overpowered, just wait until Incap gets discovered. :D
  • Valykc
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    Ok, nice bait, I’ll bite...

    Dawnbreaker is used cause a large majority of players are vampires or because their class doesn’t have a good, low-cost, Stam burst Ultimate.

    Meteor provides burst which most classes lack, a strong DoT similar to DB, and it’s lower cost than Destro ultimate.

    Get a grip.
  • Getern
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    Narvuntien wrote: »
    The only ultimate that completely dominates.. is Aggressive Warhorn on both Tanks and Healers.

    wish for that in a pug group, they will laugh at u
  • phileunderx2
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    Destros, negates and bears...oh my. And there is the evyl soul siphon and wardens trees of doom or sanctuary depending on whom they belong to.
  • Tetrafy
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    March update: Meteor and Dawnbreaker nerf that no one asked for.
  • WrathOfInnos
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    Armatesz wrote: »
    You can literally block meteor. It's telegraphed for 2 seconds dude

    All it takes is someone to use clench on you and then meteor hits. But yeah meteor is not something imo that needs nerfing.

    You can literally block clench ;)
    Tetrafy wrote: »
    March update: Meteor and Dawnbreaker nerf that no one asked for.

    One person asked for it, just one. Then we all disagreed.
    Edited by WrathOfInnos on January 29, 2018 12:09AM
  • Kwik1
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    It's real simple...

    If you don't like them...don't use them? No one is forced to use any ultimate except maybe Warhorn as a healer lol
  • NinchiTV
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    Nah. Meteor is block able and the nasty dot from it plus its snare is easy to get out of. Dawn is a solid hitting "small" aoe and stun, and is viable for ALL classes not just stam.
  • VaranisArano
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    So...remove the two ultimates that are useful in PVP that every single player whether stam or magicka and regardless of class have access to?

    Interesting.
  • Betsararie
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    How hilarious.

    You'd just have to hope he isn't serious
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