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PVP is Dead?
rootsoflife
Soul Shriven
Well... i don't know if the "?" need it or not... so, lets see first what happened right now to ESO PVP and overall this last year.
1. Hacks, Cheats, Exploits, uncontrollably Add Ons (Miat etc etc)
2. No Game Masters. Youtubers play this Role.
3. Multi Alliance log in Characters that promote the clubbing and farming of AP. This thing not create any loyalty to Alliance banner and you end up in a map that no one attack no one.
4. Multi Alliance log in also create the problem of Alliance Population lock, and you end up to wait for 30 mins-1 hour so you can play to your campaign and in between people and groups that lock the campaign farming the AP.
5. Total unkillable bombing groups via ridiculously power sets, monster helms and broken AoE skills (or exploit) + cheaty add ons etc. So the day in Cyrodiil is like that.. "those groups starts they ninja sieging the keeps they stuck inside they can't die via any method (ballistas, skills etc) they kill and farm people, they go out and that's it."
and the suggestions....
1. Stop allowing multi alliance log in. Make it "alliance account bount", and have some fee for the change if you want. for example allow account alliance change once in month for some charge of AP (a lot fo them).
2. Don't allow any Add ons on PVP (miat etc...). Is really problematic that you as a company, don't do nothing about that. At least create a list of approved Add Ons.
3. Don't allow animation canceling any more.
4. Perma ban people and list their names and why you ban them.
5. Have at least some Game Masters..
6. Make Keeps Stronger.. A Lot stronger... they are keeps not papers you know.... you know???? This thing Stop the ninja sieging and make the defence of keep to have some point again.
So.. I believe that if ZOS don't change anything in PVP (Cyrodiil needs a serius revamp), this game has no more life int it... Already most of the old PvP players don't play the game anymore.
that's it for now. Hope these suggestion do not end up to the void... (or maybe i need to end up my subscription, cause seems the only way ZOS have some reaction).
1. Hacks, Cheats, Exploits, uncontrollably Add Ons (Miat etc etc)
2. No Game Masters. Youtubers play this Role.
3. Multi Alliance log in Characters that promote the clubbing and farming of AP. This thing not create any loyalty to Alliance banner and you end up in a map that no one attack no one.
4. Multi Alliance log in also create the problem of Alliance Population lock, and you end up to wait for 30 mins-1 hour so you can play to your campaign and in between people and groups that lock the campaign farming the AP.
5. Total unkillable bombing groups via ridiculously power sets, monster helms and broken AoE skills (or exploit) + cheaty add ons etc. So the day in Cyrodiil is like that.. "those groups starts they ninja sieging the keeps they stuck inside they can't die via any method (ballistas, skills etc) they kill and farm people, they go out and that's it."
and the suggestions....
1. Stop allowing multi alliance log in. Make it "alliance account bount", and have some fee for the change if you want. for example allow account alliance change once in month for some charge of AP (a lot fo them).
2. Don't allow any Add ons on PVP (miat etc...). Is really problematic that you as a company, don't do nothing about that. At least create a list of approved Add Ons.
3. Don't allow animation canceling any more.
4. Perma ban people and list their names and why you ban them.
5. Have at least some Game Masters..
6. Make Keeps Stronger.. A Lot stronger... they are keeps not papers you know.... you know???? This thing Stop the ninja sieging and make the defence of keep to have some point again.
So.. I believe that if ZOS don't change anything in PVP (Cyrodiil needs a serius revamp), this game has no more life int it... Already most of the old PvP players don't play the game anymore.
that's it for now. Hope these suggestion do not end up to the void... (or maybe i need to end up my subscription, cause seems the only way ZOS have some reaction).
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Trinotops✭✭✭✭
Oh, it's one of those kinda threads.rootsoflife wrote: »3. Don't allow animation canceling any more.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm still playing regularly and I still see plenty of people in Cyrodiil and in the queues on PC/NA Vivec, so no, I don't think its dead yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYcPBE5PXhs 0 -
Orjix✭✭✭✭Well it's not bad, besides that whole animation cancelling thing. It's here to stay like it or not0 -
rootsoflifeSoul ShrivenI don't speak only for animation canceling but you choose to comment as you see feet... and vivec is just a tea party of relogers. Even if there are some people there, nothing happened and most of the good players are just unkillable cause of the "amazing" CP system!0
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Zurigorria✭✭A fair question and debate but a bit old and recurrent. I will add to your points that PvP community needs also to engage in critical self-analysis not only waiting for ZOS to change things.1 -
Turelus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OP I don't want to come off as rude but it seems you've been reading/hearing all the buzz reasons and not really evaluated them fully.
Issues.
1. Miats has/will be fixed as it wasn't intended gameplay. Cheaters/Exploiters are a back and forth issue with ZOS sometimes just giving a slap on the wrist other times going full nuclear and banning.
2. ZOS has some gamemaster stuff, but they don't have active in game staff at all times. It's not going to happen either because it's just not viable for a company to spend money on having someone logged in watching a game.
Some actions can also be monitored outside of the game and even enforced outside the game.
3. Agreed this isn't working out the way they hoped, would like to see some kind of lock.
4. Agreed again.
5. This is just players playing to the meta and with strong game knowledge. Cyrodiil is a sandbox style PvP area and zergs will always be a thing because of that.
Fixes.
1. Agreed changes needed.
2. This will cause all hell but hey I would rather we had add-on free ESO. Miats is fixed/being fixed regardless.
3. Permabans for confirmed cheating yes, displaying names no. It's not professional and you'll know people who get banned any way.
4. They have them, they just don't have them logged in all the time.
5. This can be altered by means other than HP grinding walls.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0
