whats the point of doing Vet Hm pledges for crystals

Dutchrebel

So i noticed something , doing pledgesin normal mode gives you a green Transmutation Geode , Wich contains 1 crystal. guaranteed.
Doing it on vet and HM Gives you a Purple Transmutation Geode wich can contain 1 to 10 crystals.
Now why is it i get always 1 crystal out of the purple ones ? with an exception of 3 when i am very very lucky.
The only reason i am doing pledges is for the crystals otherwise i could care less , but it doesnt makes any sense doing Vet and HM pledges
It should at least give you guaranteed 5 crytals with a lucky change to a max of 10 . just saying .i mean a weekly trial gives you 5 guaranteed .
Maybe its me but i think it should be more rewarding and not a single freaking crystal .

Vapirko

Honesty get into PvP. Even after next patch you’ll still get between 4 and like 25 each day from a guaranteed gold geode. At the end of the 30 day campaign you get 50 crystals for each toon that gets to reward level 3 which really isn’t that hard.

Chaos2088

Yeah PvP is where it is at if you want to farm crystals quickly.

Dutchrebel

Vapirko wrote: »

Honesty get into PvP. Even after next patch you’ll still get between 4 and like 25 each day from a guaranteed gold geode. At the end of the 30 day campaign you get 50 crystals for each toon that gets to reward level 3 which really isn’t that hard.

I know that
thats how i get most of them but i was just wondering why they make this so crappy for lets say people who dont pvp or just wanne do pve or pledges .
personally i dont care for dungeons anyway but still its a stupid system and i just wanted to say something about it

Hurtfan

4 is the smallest amount I've seen from a yellow geode, earned from PvP...and you have a chance to get up to 25 I think it is. Granted I've seen 20 once and 10 once, other than that it's been either 4 or 5 crystals.

Edit: I think they nerfed the amount you can get daily to 4 or 5 only come to think of it

SASQUATCH0

Stock up before the patch. Go into pvp and grind rewards of the worthy coffers equal to the amount of characters you have (keep them in your mail). If you have 8+ characters that’s great because you can login into to each character, go into your mail and you will get a geode in each reward. This will be fixed next patch though so like I said stock up!

Bax

You should try to think about where ZOS wants players to go. PvP could use a way more active playerbase so it's just understandable that they will motivate people to join it by giving better rewards there.

PvE is already quite crowded. Pledges were popular even before crystals were introduced so their small amount there is just a little extra reward. People would do it even without crystals and people do it even when their amount is small.

Simply, PvP is where they need people to go, not PvE.

Beardimus

I think its awesome how they are encouraging more people to do PVP, it really is. I've seen a load of guildies not interested before give it a go and find they enjoy it.

Merlin13KAGL

It's been imbalanced for quite some time. After the patch it will be at least closer to reasonable.

FTR, you get the purple geode from Vet mode, not hard mode. Hard mode also only grants you a little more Undaunted Rep and a second key.

EDIT:

• A normal dungeon grants you a green geode worth a single crystal.
• A Vet gets you a blue which is 1-??
• Vet HM gets you a purple which is supposed to be 1-10.

Ashtaris

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

It's been imbalanced for quite some time. After the patch it will be at least closer to reasonable.

FTR, you get the purple geode from Vet mode, not hard mode. Hard mode only grants you a little more Undaunted Rep and a second key.

I don’t believe that’s true Merlin. You get a Blue geode if you do normal Vet, and Purple if you do HM Vet. At least on the normal Vet dungeons. Not sure about the DLC versions however.

ccfeeling

Zos try different ways to push the players stay with the limited content,such as key for shoulder, crystal for transform.
Shoulder traits are always bad or drop something incommon , crystal qty is always low, i bet it must be programmed.
U GUYS have to farm something at all time , but they also realize rewards need to be adjusted.

Jawasa

I suggest trials and vma for crystals. Especially if you are good at pve.

pteam

Jawasa wrote: »

I suggest trials and vma for crystals. Especially if you are good at pve.

Does trials only give you 5 crystals for the first completed trial of the week or for each different trial completed each week?

mocap

whats the point of crystals after you transmute all the gear you want? Can't sell it, can't store it, can't mule it, can't accumulate it, can't use it for others. At least you can destroy geodes to clear inventory )

f047ys3v3n

Crystals are what you get once a month, in a 30 day campain, on each toon, for getting to reward tier 1 in PVP. It does not require reward tier 3, just 1. It is really simple. You just go rep some walls or leach some AP from a zone chat pug group for an hour or so on each toon and you get your reward every month.

Don't make this complicated people. It is not about boo whoo, this or that dosen't give me crystals. Crystals are like everything else. There is a place to get them efficiently and many places to fail to do that. The way to get them is to get each toon to level 1 on a 30 day campaign every month. Incidentally, this also yields the nice guaranteed 50x geodes that you can easily store if you don't want to use them right away. Just pretend PVE dosen't give transmute crystals at all if it make you feel better.

To directly answer your question... The point of doing Vet HM pledges is not to get crystals. It is to get guaranteed motif drops, heads, and keys.

zaria

pteam wrote: »

Jawasa wrote: »

I suggest trials and vma for crystals. Especially if you are good at pve.

Does trials only give you 5 crystals for the first completed trial of the week or for each different trial completed each week?

5 for each so lots of more do normal trials who was the purpose.

Runefang

If you want crystals from pure pve then trials are your best best. AS and craglorn trials are quick.

You just need multiple toons to be able to earn enough.

krachall

Vet HM is for double keys, not crystals. Running multiple random normals with lowbie is far more efficient for crystals than vet HM pledges. And, as was stated above, pvp is far more efficient than anything PVE.

Dojohoda

Purple having a chance of 1-10 is reasonable, you are just getting bad rng. I second the suggestions of others to run multiple alts. (Maybe you are already.)

disintegr8

mocap wrote: »

whats the point of crystals after you transmute all the gear you want? Can't sell it, can't store it, can't mule it, can't accumulate it, can't use it for others. At least you can destroy geodes to clear inventory )

You first have to get enough crystals to transmute what you currently need, then ZOS will introduce new sets and change existing sets, so what you transmute today may not be the best fit for your character in 6 months time.

I am close to creating my 14th character, so am nowhere near finished gear selection/modification. I have used over 700 crystals and have only really outfitted a few characters, with about 4 still to reach level 50. I will always need more crystals as I play around with different sets and abilities.

I'd also suggest that the day I stop trying different things, like skills, sets, race/character combinations, is the day I will stop needing crystals and the start of the end of my ESO playing days.

Kel

f047ys3v3n wrote: »

Crystals are what you get once a month, in a 30 day campain, on each toon, for getting to reward tier 1 in PVP. It does not require reward tier 3, just 1. It is really simple. You just go rep some walls or leach some AP from a zone chat pug group for an hour or so on each toon and you get your reward every month.

Don't make this complicated people. It is not about boo whoo, this or that dosen't give me crystals. Crystals are like everything else. There is a place to get them efficiently and many places to fail to do that. The way to get them is to get each toon to level 1 on a 30 day campaign every month. Incidentally, this also yields the nice guaranteed 50x geodes that you can easily store if you don't want to use them right away. Just pretend PVE dosen't give transmute crystals at all if it make you feel better.

To directly answer your question... The point of doing Vet HM pledges is not to get crystals. It is to get guaranteed motif drops, heads, and keys.

Yep...just coming to say this.
PvP tier 3 is a myth. You only need tier one to get the 50 crystal rewards at the end of a 30 day campaign.

LiquidPony

Beardimus wrote: »

I think its awesome how they are encouraging more people to do PVP, it really is. I've seen a load of guildies not interested before give it a go and find they enjoy it.

I mean I hate being forced to do things I don't want to do ...

But yeah, I've been dragged back into PvP for transmutation geodes and as someone who pretty much exclusively plays PvE DPS, I've been ... healing! ... in PvP.

And it's actually pretty fun. And now I have a lifetime supply of transmutation crystals via ZOS's ridiculously imbalanced PvP rewards.

kargen27

Bax wrote: »

You should try to think about where ZOS wants players to go. PvP could use a way more active playerbase so it's just understandable that they will motivate people to join it by giving better rewards there.

PvE is already quite crowded. Pledges were popular even before crystals were introduced so their small amount there is just a little extra reward. People would do it even without crystals and people do it even when their amount is small.

Simply, PvP is where they need people to go, not PvE.

My thinking is PvP players have less chance of getting the armor they want with the traits they want so the rewards are higher. PvE players that care about traits can repeat the PvE content giving them a chance to get the armor they want with the trait they want and also a chance to get crystals.

D0PAMINE

LiquidPony wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

I think its awesome how they are encouraging more people to do PVP, it really is. I've seen a load of guildies not interested before give it a go and find they enjoy it.

I mean I hate being forced to do things I don't want to do ...

But yeah, I've been dragged back into PvP for transmutation geodes and as someone who pretty much exclusively plays PvE DPS, I've been ... healing! ... in PvP.

And it's actually pretty fun. And now I have a lifetime supply of transmutation crystals via ZOS's ridiculously imbalanced PvP rewards.

I love having healers follow me around making me unkillable.

DoctorESO

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Merlin13KAGL

Ashtaris wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

It's been imbalanced for quite some time. After the patch it will be at least closer to reasonable.

FTR, you get the purple geode from Vet mode, not hard mode. Hard mode only grants you a little more Undaunted Rep and a second key.

I don’t believe that’s true Merlin. You get a Blue geode if you do normal Vet, and Purple if you do HM Vet. At least on the normal Vet dungeons. Not sure about the DLC versions however.

@Ashtaris, you are correct. I finished off a Norm due to a <L50 character and there is a difference.

• A normal dungeon grants you a green geode worth a single crystal.
• A Vet gets you a blue which is 1-??
• Vet HM gets you a purple which is supposed to be 1-10.

More often than not, 1-10 works out to be 1-2, hardly making it worth the extra, especially if a group is having difficulty with the content.

I'll update the original post to reflect this.

Alaztor91

tbh I wouldn't be surprised if doing vet pledges without hm(blue geode) would end up giving you more crystals than doing vet hm(purple geode). We don't know what are the odds of getting 10 crystals on a purple one, so maybe you get more geodes on average from blue ones since it has to roll only between 1-4, instead of 1-10.

These days I just solo them on normal unless it's a hard one or impossible to solo due to mechanics, it's usually faster than waiting in queue as a DD for vet.

Nestor

I have never gotten less than 2 on the Purple Geodes, but, of the 8 I have farmed, only one was more than 2, and that was for 4.

DoctorESO

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Tsar_Gekkou

I stopped doing vet HM. I just run through it on normal, then go to pvp for maybe the same amount of time and get a gold geode that gives 4-25. The least they could do is make vet HM give 4 minimum to match pvp instead of nerfing the pvp drop rate.

firedrgn

You get dohble keys on vet whether or not you do hm.

I have never gotte.n morthan 4 crystals from any dungeon . Regradless of the mode.