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kargen27

My criteria is much more simple.

If you grind you are not a casual player.

The End.

Hallothiel

Does it actually really matter that much? Casual / non-casual / elite / whatever.
All that matters is that you should be having fun doing whatever you are doing - this IS a game after all.

Prof_Bawbag

Peoples sense of self importance. That's exactly what separates both. No idea why some gamers are more interested in bestowing inane titles upon themselves rather than just getting on playing any given game. Makes us all feel special in our own heads i suppose.

KingYogi415

A couple mil gold for starters...

Leandor

Casuals are usually easily recognized. It's those players that put more emphasis on forum stars than on the game itself. Usually apparent from making a bazillion threads on even the most useless issues/topics.

Cillion3117

To me it's all in the mind set. I play a lot and have done nearly everything in the game with my main. I consider myself a casual, because I have no problem turning the game off when real life calls and I don't get overly pissed about any changes ZOS may or may not make.

Sharee

"What separates a causal player from a non-casual player? "

CE

Marabornwingrion

"core / progression group for dungeons" WTF?

Heka Cain

A nitpicking moron!

Vermintide

Kram8ion wrote: »

So I think there's a wider variety of eso players and only the player can decide what they are or what they think makes a certain player but I'm guessing a few

The casual
The Invested casual
The addict
The no sleeper
And the elite

Idk maybe?

I think I'm just about straddling the gap between invested casual and addict.

Last night I went to the cinema with my partner, and found myself sat there ignoring the movie, thinking about how much DPS I'd gain by changing my front bar to infused.

It was a *** movie though.

munster1404

cindaxo wrote: »

Well... I’m kind of in both of your lists. Despite me being max cp I’ve never done a normal trial - I usually play solo so... either way, I count myself as a casual because I’m not an elitist but I’m also someone who does vet dungeons and whatnot. My definition of a casual is just someone who enjoys playing the game, being called a casual is not an insult to me.

Same here, max CP too and I have only done 2 vet dungeons which to be honest was very annoying. Not exactly how I want to spend a relaxing off day from work.

Personally, I'm glad to see that various difficulties exist for all game content. For those who still say the game is too easy: Please for god's sake stop making the game inaccessible with all those inane suggestions of nerfs. I'm pretty sure there is a population of players who do not want to grow their epeens the length of the Nile. You want to increase the difficulty? Fine, petition the devs to introduce a veteran Challenge/hard core mode. Quadruple the boss HP, design crazy mechanics. I don't care. Just stop trivializing the players who do not aspire to progress under your terms.

Aurie

So, I play more than 15 hours a week. End of.

But that time is spent doing daily writs as fast as possible, and then for most of the time adding to and decorating my collection of properties. Occasionally I will break out and do some questing.

Does that make me a hard core Homestead player, or just an addict?

Appleblade

There’s two types of players: those that split the player base into two types and those that don’t.

SugaComa

DoctorESO wrote: »

The term "casual player" is thrown around a lot. But what really separates a casual player from a non-casual player? One player claims to be casual because she "only" plays ESO for 1-2 hours per day. Another player claims to be casual because although he raids veteran trials, he only does so as part of open raid nights and not as part of a core group. Yet another player claims to be casual because although she's very skilled at PvP, she only runs in the Alliance War during once-a-week guild fight nights.

So what makes a player casual, and what makes a player not casual? Well, for starters, I've put together some criteria to start the discussion. I think it would be easier to start with what makes someone a non-casual. So...

You are NOT a casual player if any of the following apply to you:

• You play ESO more than 15 hours per week me
• You raid veteran dungeons as part of a core or progression group not me
• You have more than five characters who are max level/CP and have all best-in-slot gear of purple or higher quality not me
• You make more than 100,000 gold per week not me
• You are the leader of a trial, PvP, or trading guild not me
• You are the leader of a large social guild in which you personally run at least three events per week not me
• You have completed the no-death speed-run achievements for all veteran DLC dungeons not me
• You have achieved the Flawless Conqueror title (completing Veteran Maelstrom Arena in one session without dying or leaving) not me
• You have ever been crowned Emperor in the Alliance War me

On the other hand, you ARE a casual player if any of the following apply to you:

• You play ESO less than 5 hours per week not me
• You have never cleared a veteran dungeon not me
• You have never cleared a normal trial not me
• You make less than 3,000 gold per week not me
• You have never completed an Undaunted pledge not me
• You are unable to achieve more than 8,000 self-buffed, single-target DPS me

In between the two extremes is the gray area, where the line between casual and non-casual is fuzzy.

Agree?

Ermmmm...

No

coop500

You play ESO more than 15 hours per week
You have more than five characters who are max level/CP and have all best-in-slot gear of purple or higher quality
You make more than 100,000 gold per week

You are unable to achieve more than 8,000 self-buffed, single-target DPS

Shame on me lol.
But I feel the one casual tag marks me as 'casual' more than the other three mark me as not casual, so this is why i always say i'm casual because I only minorly number crunch and I'm more of a healer/tank player than a DPS player. DPS is too stressful and requires animation cancelling these days to appease people and I'm not gonna use a mechanic that was not intended.

Motherball

One of the big things that sets casuls apart is that they rarely care what other players think of them. They just go about their business without competing against other players, whether it be achievements, gold, or how much time they spend playing. That doesnt mean they dont look at guides and try to improve their play, they just usually dont feel a need to measure up.

coop500

Motherball wrote: »

One of the big things that sets casuls apart is that they rarely care what other players think of them. They just go about their business without competing against other players, whether it be achievements, gold, or how much time they spend playing. That doesnt mean they dont look at guides and try to improve their play, they just usually dont feel a need to measure up.

this fits better then anything else anyone has said.

People seem to think casuals are one type of people (looking at you person who said they care about forum stars) that's just dumb.

What it comes down to is casuals just want to have fun
Non-casuals care more about the game than just having fun

Period.

VaranisArano

A casual player is one that doesn't feel the need to get worked up over how, when, or why other people play a video game.

MilwaukeeScott

A casual player has an actual life. I do not.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Nifty2g wrote: »

it's simple, casual people dont care about progression as a player where as non casuals do

speaking from raiding anyway

Pretty much this.
The difference is the mindset.
A hardcore player will try and do what it takes to get better, up to possibly being "the best". It so happens in ESO PVE that the milestone for measuring this is trial leaderboards.
Casual players will do what they enjoy and will not care much about being better or worse than anyone else.

IMHO this difference in mindset is more significant than the actual quantitative commitment to the game, such as time played.

Orticia

I think it has mostly to do with mindset. And obviously seeing it is a flexible term situation it is used in/for can change the meaning, the person using and hearing it might have different definitions.

I consider myself a casual due to mindset and effect on the game, I play for fun. I do not usually play for efficiency. Like if a daily is the best way to earn x, but I don't feel like doing that daily that day... x will just have to wait a bit longer. It will come eventually. I don't grind, just do stuff I feel like and at times game like an easily distracted toddler. (ok finish this quest... hey a log... looky it gave me an housing item, lets try it in my home... emmm oh yeah quest... hey a school of fish......)

I do not mini max, nor focus on maximizing dps by rotation, best gear grinding and all that. That feels to much like work for me and I am playing a game for fun... I already have a job. But I do like progression and being adequate. It does not mean I can't pull my weight or press buttons blindly and wear whatever. But it's very unlikely I will be top dps. Just going with: can I do what I want with the gear and the rotation/skills? And am I not a nuisance to my groupmates/holding them back? Good enough is good enough.

Real life comes first as well but still put in a decent amount of playtime real life permitting. I don't plan real life around gaming. So no raid guild core position for me ever, or even steady 4 man dungeons. I don't have the illusion I will ever be a top dps player, I hoover comfortably somewhere in the middle, and I am fine with that.

Mureel

DoctorESO wrote: »

The term "casual player" is thrown around a lot. But what really separates a casual player from a non-casual player? One player claims to be casual because she "only" plays ESO for 1-2 hours per day. Another player claims to be casual because although he raids veteran trials, he only does so as part of open raid nights and not as part of a core group. Yet another player claims to be casual because although she's very skilled at PvP, she only runs in the Alliance War during once-a-week guild fight nights.

So what makes a player casual, and what makes a player not casual? Well, for starters, I've put together some criteria to start the discussion. I think it would be easier to start with what makes someone a non-casual. So...

You are NOT a casual player if any of the following apply to you:

• You play ESO more than 15 hours per week
• You raid veteran dungeons as part of a core or progression group
• You have more than five characters who are max level/CP and have all best-in-slot gear of purple or higher quality
• You make more than 100,000 gold per week
• You are the leader of a trial, PvP, or trading guild
• You are the leader of a large social guild in which you personally run at least three events per week
• You have completed the no-death speed-run achievements for all veteran DLC dungeons
• You have achieved the Flawless Conqueror title (completing Veteran Maelstrom Arena in one session without dying or leaving)
• You have ever been crowned Emperor in the Alliance War

On the other hand, you ARE a casual player if any of the following apply to you:

• You play ESO less than 5 hours per week
• You have never cleared a veteran dungeon
• You have never cleared a normal trial
• You make less than 3,000 gold per week
• You have never completed an Undaunted pledge
• You are unable to achieve more than 8,000 self-buffed, single-target DPS

In between the two extremes is the gray area, where the line between casual and non-casual is fuzzy.

Agree?

My butt. Is what separates....whatever you were talking about...

Why do you even care? Did you lose the 4 inch ruler you usually use?

DoctorESO

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yttoks

If you call someone 'casual', and you think you've just insulted them, you're non-casual.

DoctorESO

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DoctorESO

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DragonRacer

#1 - Doesn't honestly matter

#2 - If someone is posting on this message board, they probably don't fall into a "casual" definition. Gamers that actually are involved enough to be on a forum about a game are such a small percentage of the overall gaming population of any said game that they're pretty much automatically non-casual... whether or not they are at the top, bottom, or middle of the proverbial e-peen food chain.

Juju_beans

Casual players don't care about min/max builds.
Casual players adapt to changes in the game.
Casual players aren't as competitive.

Casual players just don't take this game as seriously as others because..it's just a game to take up your free time.

Most_Awesome

I'm a hardcore zergling tryhard with 13 characters, who I day dream about whilst at work on what builds I can come up with that will make me a GOD in cyrodiil.

Jhalin

Do they care about improving their performance in the game and take steps to do so?

If so, then they're not a casual.



Do they demand the game to be balanced around their 5k dps and poor situational awareness, all the while crying about those nasty metaslaves that expect group members to contribute to fights?

If so, they're a casual.