CTR is a quality of life issue

del9

The Capture the Relic game mode is bad for BGs. It is a big factor in driving away the population that wants deathmatch or some kind of PVP in their BGs. It is making BG regulars unhappy, their time and queues are being wasted.

I know the servers don't have the population to separate game modes into separate queues. Please consider removing CTR. Really listen to the players - there are very few who do enjoy it. I've played CTR for several months aggressively playing objectives, but I just can't do it anymore. We can't appease those asking for DM only, but we can make this step. It would be a good compromise. I don't know which devs are in charge of this but if you agree that your precious gametime is being wasted, please tag em'.

Thogard

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

MurderMostFoul

CTR has improved a little since the addition of the pickup time/interrupt. If you want more combat when playing CTR, play as your team's dedicated flag defender. It's a role that is both combat focused and increases your teams chance of winning.

I agree that other modes involve more combat, but CTR at least involves an abundance of strategic choices, more so than any other game type.

DeadlyRecluse

Any objective based game where there are as many or more objectives then there are teams is going to encourage avoiding combat.

Magdalina

I haven't done any BGs for quite a while but back when I did(when there was only Domination, CTR and Deathmatch) CTR was actually my favourite. I felt like it featured 0 combat as well - until I realized you cannot pick others' relics while your own is gone. If everyone's relics are missing THEN you go PvP, and that's also when and where you actually need teamwork and strategic choices etc.

Domination now...the time it takes(I don't think they changed that part, did they?) to capture flags simply makes it a lot more profitable to cap and run rather than fight.

CatchMeTrolling

Not really, teams actually camp the flag now. At least one person stays on it

Thogard

Magdalina wrote: »

I haven't done any BGs for quite a while but back when I did(when there was only Domination, CTR and Deathmatch) CTR was actually my favourite. I felt like it featured 0 combat as well - until I realized you cannot pick others' relics while your own is gone. If everyone's relics are missing THEN you go PvP, and that's also when and where you actually need teamwork and strategic choices etc.

Domination now...the time it takes(I don't think they changed that part, did they?) to capture flags simply makes it a lot more profitable to cap and run rather than fight.

@Magdalina they changed the CTR mechanics last patch. It’s now impossible to pick up a relic of the other team has someone on defense

Lexxypwns

Thogard wrote: »

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

You and @del9 both like crazy king, but I don’t get it. I think dom is much more conducive to constant combat then crazy king tho.
Have you guys figured out a strategy where it’s not just chase fights around once flags start speaking like crazy?

del9

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

You and @del9 both like crazy king, but I don’t get it. I think dom is much more conducive to constant combat then crazy king tho.
Have you guys figured out a strategy where it’s not just chase fights around once flags start speaking like crazy?

I've never played on XBOX but in our experience every DOM ends up being a track meet. If there was a way to encourage fighting, we would do it. (increase the points of center flag and decrease points in peripheral flags?)

Lexxypwns

del9 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

You and @del9 both like crazy king, but I don’t get it. I think dom is much more conducive to constant combat then crazy king tho.
Have you guys figured out a strategy where it’s not just chase fights around once flags start speaking like crazy?

I've never played on XBOX but in our experience every DOM ends up being a track meet. If there was a way to encourage fighting, we would do it. (increase the points of center flag and decrease points in peripheral flags?)

Increase points for holding flags for longer periods of time.

Idk, my experience with Dom is that if you can jump to a lead you get to dictate fights with good communication. However I agree that if you start behind it’s hard to get fights without giving up a potential victory. In those matches I take solace in the fact that fighting on flags at least contributes to leaderboard score, it’s not ideal but I’m crazy king I feel I’m always chasing no matter what

Waffennacht

Half way through crazy king I refuse to fight, just rush to the newest flag, then the next when it pops

del9

Lexxypwns wrote: »

del9 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

You and @del9 both like crazy king, but I don’t get it. I think dom is much more conducive to constant combat then crazy king tho.
Have you guys figured out a strategy where it’s not just chase fights around once flags start speaking like crazy?

I've never played on XBOX but in our experience every DOM ends up being a track meet. If there was a way to encourage fighting, we would do it. (increase the points of center flag and decrease points in peripheral flags?)

Increase points for holding flags for longer periods of time.

Love that idea of increasing points over time.

I see what you're saying, but he effort and coordination to force fights is such a pain - and the resulting engagements are short. DOM scores go up so quickly that the match doesn't have time to develop. Crazy King forces so many more fights, and there is actually time to see the fruits of coordinating to force action somewhere before the match is over. I like that you still get rewarded for being fast in KING, but running wont carry you like in DOM.

Thogard

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

While we’re at it. Drop domination too. CTR and dom discourage combat.

Chaos ball and crazy king can stay

You and @del9 both like crazy king, but I don’t get it. I think dom is much more conducive to constant combat then crazy king tho.
Have you guys figured out a strategy where it’s not just chase fights around once flags start speaking like crazy?

Fights are 4v4 for the first 3-4 min, 2v2 for the next 5 min, and run around solo 1vX (although you want to be near your team just Incase) til the end ... but you have to be good at all stages, which makes it pretty fun.

DoctorESO

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DosPanchos

No more C T R!
No more C T R!

gabormezo

CTR is where toxic players always loose their temper. I hate that.

sharquez

how about changing CTR to a sort of CB CTR hybrid where holding the flag gives you points instead of running to and from points which tbh is kinda lame in arenas so small with so few players and with 3 teams.