About to craft my first CP 160 gear..

AngelFires333

Looks like it may cost quite a few G's for the mats to make this.
Wanting to get it right.

I have been using Jeckll's Leveling gear setup Night mothers/Hundings.



http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/stamina-nightblade-pve-dps-for-morrowind/



Will this suffice for solo overland or should I go more on the lines of Alcast's/Gilliam's beginners setup.
With the Hundings 5 traits taking priority over NM's.





http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-dps-build/


https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-build-for-pve/


I am learning to bar swap and take advantage of dual wield daggers dmg bonus on Bow's Dot's.
Solo overland stamblade here (obviously).

Any information would be most appreciated
Please and Thank you.


Edit: Big thanks to Jeckll, Alcast and Gilliamtherogue for these great guides!

SydneyGrey

Those are good guides.
My one recommendation is to not make anything gold (that is, use gold-level tempers to make the armor highest quality), until you've played the armor for a good long while and are 100% sure you want to keep it. Gold-level materials are rare, and super expensive to buy in guild traders.

In particular, don't gold-out helmets and shoulders, because you might want to trade those for monster sets later if you don't have any yet. You get monster sets from 4-man dungeons and trials. (You probably know all this already, but I'll speak as if you're a noob just in case.)

Also, don't use gold tempers on non-set weapons and armor. When I was new to the game, I made the costly mistake of turning a non-set weapon to gold, and was very sorry afterward, because it amounted to wasting those rare materials.
Hope this helps a little.

AngelFires333

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Those are good guides.
My one recommendation is to not make anything gold (that is, use gold-level tempers to make the armor highest quality), until you've played the armor for a good long while and are 100% sure you want to keep it. Gold-level materials are rare, and super expensive to buy in guild traders.

In particular, don't gold-out helmets and shoulders, because you might want to trade those for monster sets later if you don't have any yet. You get monster sets from 4-man dungeons and trials. (You probably know all this already, but I'll speak as if you're a noob just in case.)

Also, don't use gold tempers on non-set weapons and armor. When I was new to the game, I made the costly mistake of turning a non-set weapon to gold, and was very sorry afterward, because it amounted to wasting those rare materials.
Hope this helps a little.

Yes I am a noob.
Very helpful thank you

nihirisutou

Hundings does not completely take priority, the 5 piece bonus of NM Gaze lasts for a few seconds as you bar swap.

I'm not trying to spoil the beans, but did you research traits? As both are set pieces and require 6 traits to be researched and this takes up a hell of a lot of time....

I'm on this road myself.

Loc2262

If I may make a suggestion: If you're going to craft CP160 gear, and don't have tons of gold to just spend on it like that, it'd be in my opinion a bit of a waste to make it Training.

On my new stamina warden I have one "damage" set, which is 5xHundings, 5xTwice-Fanged (you can use Spriggan as an alternative), 2xVelidreth (you can also use Kra'gh or Stormfist which is much easier to get), in CP160 Divines with gold weapons and gold glyphs, but purple armor. I use that for vet dungeons and other hard content.

Then I have a "training" set for leveling up skills etc., 5xHundings, 4xNight Mother, 3xAgility, all in CP150 purple with all Training trait and purple glyphs. For normal dungeons, overland, questing etc.

(Additionally, I collected a "running" set, 5xDarkstride, 5xFjord's, which greatly increases sprinting speed and decreases sprinting cost, very nice for new chars with slow-as-hell horses to get around collecting skyshards.)

Magdalina

SydneyGrey wrote: »

Those are good guides.
My one recommendation is to not make anything gold (that is, use gold-level tempers to make the armor highest quality), until you've played the armor for a good long while and are 100% sure you want to keep it. Gold-level materials are rare, and super expensive to buy in guild traders.

In particular, don't gold-out helmets and shoulders, because you might want to trade those for monster sets later if you don't have any yet. You get monster sets from 4-man dungeons and trials. (You probably know all this already, but I'll speak as if you're a noob just in case.)

Also, don't use gold tempers on non-set weapons and armor. When I was new to the game, I made the costly mistake of turning a non-set weapon to gold, and was very sorry afterward, because it amounted to wasting those rare materials.
Hope this helps a little.

Far as golding stuff goes, you really only need to gold out weapons at some point because that alone will significantly raise your weapon damage. The armor is a lot of tempers spent for minimal improvement, most of my armor is still purple, and I've been playing since launch and am over cp cap

Loc2262

Yes, that's very true. Gold weapons are first priority, then gold enchantment glyphs. Gold armor only if you want to really squeeze out the last bit of stats. Not needed except you go for trial leaderboards.

AngelFires333

Loc2262 wrote: »

If I may make a suggestion: If you're going to craft CP160 gear, and don't have tons of gold to just spend on it like that, it'd be in my opinion a bit of a waste to make it Training.

On my new stamina warden I have one "damage" set, which is 5xHundings, 5xTwice-Fanged (you can use Spriggan as an alternative), 2xVelidreth (you can also use Kra'gh or Stormfist which is much easier to get), in CP160 Divines with gold weapons and gold glyphs, but purple armor. I use that for vet dungeons and other hard content.

Then I have a "training" set for leveling up skills etc., 5xHundings, 4xNight Mother, 3xAgility, all in CP150 purple with all Training trait and purple glyphs. For normal dungeons, overland, questing etc.

(Additionally, I collected a "running" set, 5xDarkstride, 5xFjord's, which greatly increases sprinting speed and decreases sprinting cost, very nice for new chars with slow-as-hell horses to get around collecting skyshards.)

lol.
I was only refering to the hundings/Night mothers set up.
I have full divines.
Its all good

AngelFires333

nihirisutou wrote: »

Hundings does not completely take priority, the 5 piece bonus of NM Gaze lasts for a few seconds as you bar swap.

I'm not trying to spoil the beans, but did you research traits? As both are set pieces and require 6 traits to be researched and this takes up a hell of a lot of time....

I'm on this road myself.

Yep Traits, are all good!

Just need nirnhoned for my weapons but.
On my 8th trait on daggers/bow.
20 somthing days?

Easily_Lost

I don't know that much about sets.
You may want to craft CP150 gear first and us it for awhile. That way if you are not happy with the numbers, you won't be wasting a lot of mats.
Just my two cents worth.

Asardes

Infector is garbage. I would suggest getting Spriggan jewelry - it's pretty expensive, but you can grind Bangkorai dolmens for a few hours and you'll probably get a full set and also gain CP quite fast since they give a lot of XP. You'll also need 2 body pieces, preferably legs, hands or feet. Craft Hunging's 2 daggers, 1 bow, another piece in medium, heavy chest and light waist since that will give you a bit more health, especially when you get undaunted mettle from doing dungeons. Leave the head and shoulder slots free for now, since you'll be able to get some of the monster sets quite fast. I would recommend Kra'gh from Fungal Grotto 1, since that's a very easy veteran dungeon. For starters any trait will do. Also if you don't get Kra'gh shoulder you can pair the head with one that gives Stamina Recovery, Maximum Stamina, Weapon Critica or Weapon Damage; Bloodspawn and Swarm Mother (recovery) and (Slimercraw) Wepon Critical also comes from Maj's chest, where the Kra'gh shoulder drops, so you can farm that one for starters: http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Monster+Helm+Sets

Ideally, your setup will look like this:

Head: Kra'gh mask, medium, divines, maximum stamina enchant
Shoulder: Kra'gh arm cops, medium divines, maximum stamina enchant
Chest: Cuirass of Hunding's Rage, heavy, divines, stamina enchant
Waist: Sash of Hunding's Rage, light, divines, stamina enchant
Legs: Spriggan's Guards, medium, divines, stamina enchant
Hands: Spriggan's Bracers, medium, divines, stamina enchant
Feet: Boots of Hunding's Rage, medium, divines, stamina enchant
Ring 1: Spriggan's Ring, robust, weapon damage enchant
Ring 2: Spriggan's Ring, robust, weapon damage enchant
Neclace: Spriggan's Necklace, robust, weapon damage enchant
Right Hand: Dagger of Hunding's Rage, nirnhoned, poison enchant
Left Hand: Dagger of Hunding's Rage, precise, poison enchant
Bow: Bow of Hunding's Rage, infused, berserker enchant

Why this setup?

Hunding's Rage is a very versatile set, and once you have it, you can keep using it end game
Spriggan's gives penetration, and so does Kra'gh, together they give about 5.1K penetration. Your surprise attack gives another 5.3K so you'll be at 10.5K penetration. Overland mobs have 9.1K resistance, but dungeon mobs have 18.2-18.5K. So you'll not overpenetrate. That will save you putting CP in Piercing. Once you CP gets higher, and you start doing trials, you can replace Spriggan with Vicious Ophidian or Twice-Fanged snake. But it will serve you well for the first 2 months since penetration has by far the biggest impact on DPS of all stats.

nihirisutou

AngelFires333 wrote: »

nihirisutou wrote: »

Hundings does not completely take priority, the 5 piece bonus of NM Gaze lasts for a few seconds as you bar swap.

I'm not trying to spoil the beans, but did you research traits? As both are set pieces and require 6 traits to be researched and this takes up a hell of a lot of time....

I'm on this road myself.

Yep Traits, are all good!

Just need nirnhoned for my weapons but.
On my 8th trait on daggers/bow.
20 somthing days?

Same.. I settled for precise or sharpened. Nirnhoned is the best, but I couldn't afford the research sacrifices for it and now it will take a month to research it..

Nestor

Easily_Lost wrote: »

I don't know that much about sets.
You may want to craft CP150 gear first and us it for awhile. That way if you are not happy with the numbers, you won't be wasting a lot of mats.
Just my two cents worth.

Until you know the gear is working for you, it should always be made in CP150. Just because some streamers says it's great for them does not mean its great for you.

That being said, Hundings/NMG is a good combo to use. Not that there are not other ones out there that are good too.