Healthy criticism about pvp and storage containers

monktoasty

It's absolutely not good to put such a thing in pvp land where most players do not even bother with.

TrYing to force people or entice people in such an underhanded way is not the right way to be increase pvp population or increase IC population at least in a good way.

Send8ng people who hate pvp or fed up with it is just filling pvp land with irritated people.


I propose you give a pve option for storage containers.

Also caltrops.

II will not be going to IC now or ever or any pvp land unless pvp is fundamentally fixed..I will always be against con trived enticements.

Animus-ESO

ku5h

The moment we can level undaunted trough PvP, I'll agree with you!

Arthg

I bought this game to do dungeons with a RL friend.

Being "forced" to PvP made me actually love it, and PvPing is now all I want to be doing when I play this game.

Making players discover areas of the game they do not necessarily like in the first place is healthy - unlike your criticism, tbh ("irritated people", LOL).

monktoasty

ku5h wrote: »

The moment we can level undaunted trough PvP, I'll agree with you!

It's a pve game..pvp is a second thought.

But I'd love to totally give pvp it's own lvl system..I really dislike pvp people in pve they are annoying.

monktoasty

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

Oh..this statememo will be proven wrong when the forums are full of people complaining about it after dealing with the pvp crowd

Demycilian

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

ak_pvp

monktoasty wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

The moment we can level undaunted trough PvP, I'll agree with you!

It's a pve game..pvp is a second thought.

Its neither. Its an MMO where you can both PvE, PvP and group/solo. You don't decide what is what. But unfortunately ZOS knows newbs and PvE zones get the most revenue, which is why the best gear, undaunted and skills are locked behind it, but you hardly hear PvPers complain about having to PvE. (They complain about balance though)

I primarily do dungeons/BGs now, since my connection is too trash for openworld/trials, though I have done both. And I can say that PvE players are some top tier carebears. Caltrops/WH. Reee. Transmute stones. Reee The fact that storage can be gotten through IC, (probably has some writ based alternative) Reee.

Screamo

you will be able to purchase the containers with tel var OR Writ vouchers atleast thats what i heard.

coop500

I don't think anyone is really forced, I don't like PVP but getting the skill line for Vigor and such is not too hard.I can handle annoying PVPers for that long, especially if you do it before your each 50 and can go in the under level 50 campaign.

zaria

Screamo wrote: »

you will be able to purchase the containers with tel var OR Writ vouchers atleast thats what i heard.

its correct, main question is price, we get some indications the PTS opens on monday.

Ermiq

PvPers are ruining our immersion, they're so annoying with their non-stop jumping and shooting.
Now we've got an opportunity to strike back. Let them see how terrible and horrible PvEers can be! Yay!

SugaComa

Demycilian wrote: »

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

Stop ruining my forum with dumb statements

I love both PvP and PvE

As do many of my friends

This Gabe like life is about experiencing things done you will love some you will hate ... But dues that mean we must destroy the world of what we hate ... Cos if so then all we will have is war

I have many PvP friends who don't do housing ... But they'll happily sell their rewards for gold

You see pvpers need potions

Pvpers tend to buy the materials from farmers

Farmers tend to hate PvP and dungeons but love crafting and farming

Pve players love dungeons but hate farming n crafting

So by carefully allowing certain items greater chances in certain activities what we get is people doing what they love selling what they don't need to buy what they do need and what you get is an economy

However greed is killing this economy as it stands making more people a hack of all trades as rewards are unbalanced in the way of earning gold this gives pvpers an increased chance of earning gold to rebalance that economy.

It's an intelligent move by ZoS

Dasovaruilos

I just posted on the other thread... I simply do not understand this "forced PvP" complaing about the chests and coffers...

If you don't want to PvP, you STILL have 2 options: either buy it with Crowns or farm some gold and buy a few Master Writs.

Everyone needs to level Alchemy anyway to get Medicinal Use if they are serious about the game. And the Alchemy writs are super cheap to make.

If you don't want to PvP and don't want to be a crafter and don't want to use real money, just buy a bunch of those.

Personally I think ZOS nailed the options on this one. Couldn't have done better myself.

Ackwalan

You tried this yesterday, adding the word 'healthy' to the title, won't change the outcome. There are several ways to get the storage box, if you don't want to PvP, then don't.

magictucktuck

ummm you can get them from crafting?? so your just complaining to complain

Waffennacht

Master writs are PvP? News to me

pieratsos

monktoasty wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

The moment we can level undaunted trough PvP, I'll agree with you!

pvp is a second thought.

And you are talking about healthy criticism?

Carltrops lol. You can get it in literally 2 hours without even fighting other players and u are complaining. At the same time PVP players have to mindlessly grind PVE for skills, gears, passives etc but according to you thats ok cause u have this stupid idea in ur head that its a PVE game even tho the trailers and the selling point of this game are revolved around the alliance war.

And the storage containers can be obtained through PVE. You can get them through crafting writs. And IC is not a PVP specific zone. Its mixed PVP and PVE. In fact you, you dont even need to fight enemy players to get telvar. No PVP needed.

Here is some healthy criticism for you. You are whining and feeling entitled to everything. Get off ur high horse and do the content like everyone else. You are not so special.

Waffennacht

IC is a PvP zone? Spent 5 hours there last two nights, haven't seen another player yet

TequilaFire

Another troll thread for the mods to close.

Demycilian

SugaComa wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

Stop ruining my forum with dumb statements

I love both PvP and PvE

As do many of my friends

This Gabe like life is about experiencing things done you will love some you will hate ... But dues that mean we must destroy the world of what we hate ... Cos if so then all we will have is war

I have many PvP friends who don't do housing ... But they'll happily sell their rewards for gold

You see pvpers need potions

Pvpers tend to buy the materials from farmers

Farmers tend to hate PvP and dungeons but love crafting and farming

Pve players love dungeons but hate farming n crafting

So by carefully allowing certain items greater chances in certain activities what we get is people doing what they love selling what they don't need to buy what they do need and what you get is an economy

However greed is killing this economy as it stands making more people a hack of all trades as rewards are unbalanced in the way of earning gold this gives pvpers an increased chance of earning gold to rebalance that economy.

It's an intelligent move by ZoS

Yea, its an intelligent move to inconvenience and annoy the vast majority of players to do the dead niche of the game a favour. If you are ZOS.

... your forum?

Kel

monktoasty wrote: »

It's absolutely not good to put such a thing in pvp land where most players do not even bother with.

TrYing to force people or entice people in such an underhanded way is not the right way to be increase pvp population or increase IC population at least in a good way.

Send8ng people who hate pvp or fed up with it is just filling pvp land with irritated people.


I propose you give a pve option for storage containers.

Also caltrops.

II will not be going to IC now or ever or any pvp land unless pvp is fundamentally fixed..I will always be against con trived enticements.

Seriously, is this going to be a everyday thing?
Don't like PvP? Then don't do it. No one's forcing you to get vigor or caltrops. You chose to go into Cyrodiil and get them. A choice is the opposite of forcing. I'm going to make an assumption that you are not in the top 1% where caltrops will make or break your build. You go into Cyrodiil because someone on the internet said "Caltrops...good.." So you choose to go after them. But make no mistake, no one made you do anything.

TequilaFire

Demycilian wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

Stop ruining my forum with dumb statements

I love both PvP and PvE

As do many of my friends

This Gabe like life is about experiencing things done you will love some you will hate ... But dues that mean we must destroy the world of what we hate ... Cos if so then all we will have is war

I have many PvP friends who don't do housing ... But they'll happily sell their rewards for gold

You see pvpers need potions

Pvpers tend to buy the materials from farmers

Farmers tend to hate PvP and dungeons but love crafting and farming

Pve players love dungeons but hate farming n crafting

So by carefully allowing certain items greater chances in certain activities what we get is people doing what they love selling what they don't need to buy what they do need and what you get is an economy

However greed is killing this economy as it stands making more people a hack of all trades as rewards are unbalanced in the way of earning gold this gives pvpers an increased chance of earning gold to rebalance that economy.

It's an intelligent move by ZoS

Yea, its an intelligent move to inconvenience and annoy the vast majority of players to do the dead niche of the game a favour. If you are ZOS.

... your forum?

Dead niche with 100 plus players in queue.
What is the matter you can face other players and you can't craft? lol

Taleof2Cities

TequilaFire wrote: »

Another troll thread for the mods to close.

I know right?

The OP's "healthy criticism" (read: rants) has permeated other threads too.

But, yeah, PvE versus PvP threads don't make it very far in terms of quantifiable discussion points.

Dojohoda

monktoasty wrote: »

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TrYing to force people or entice people in such an underhanded way is not the right way to be increase pvp population or increase IC population at least in a good way.

Send8ng people who hate pvp or fed up with it is just filling pvp land with irritated people.

...

Demycilian

TequilaFire wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

Stop ruining my forum with dumb statements

I love both PvP and PvE

As do many of my friends

This Gabe like life is about experiencing things done you will love some you will hate ... But dues that mean we must destroy the world of what we hate ... Cos if so then all we will have is war

I have many PvP friends who don't do housing ... But they'll happily sell their rewards for gold

You see pvpers need potions

Pvpers tend to buy the materials from farmers

Farmers tend to hate PvP and dungeons but love crafting and farming

Pve players love dungeons but hate farming n crafting

So by carefully allowing certain items greater chances in certain activities what we get is people doing what they love selling what they don't need to buy what they do need and what you get is an economy

However greed is killing this economy as it stands making more people a hack of all trades as rewards are unbalanced in the way of earning gold this gives pvpers an increased chance of earning gold to rebalance that economy.

It's an intelligent move by ZoS

Yea, its an intelligent move to inconvenience and annoy the vast majority of players to do the dead niche of the game a favour. If you are ZOS.

... your forum?

Dead niche with 100 plus players in queue.
What is the matter you can face other players and you can't craft? lol

Nothing but two remaining downsized Cyro maps and all you got is a 100 man queue? You are in my prayers, good sir.

Korah_Eaglecry

monktoasty wrote: »

It's absolutely not good to put such a thing in pvp land where most players do not even bother with.

TrYing to force people or entice people in such an underhanded way is not the right way to be increase pvp population or increase IC population at least in a good way.

Send8ng people who hate pvp or fed up with it is just filling pvp land with irritated people.


I propose you give a pve option for storage containers.

Also caltrops.

II will not be going to IC now or ever or any pvp land unless pvp is fundamentally fixed..I will always be against con trived enticements.

Wouldnt want you in Cyrodiil and IC anyway. Stop acting as if the only players that are entitled to things are PvEers.

Conduit0

No one is forcing you to pvp, you can buy housing containers with writ vouchers, if you're too lazy to level a crafter, that is entirely on you.

TequilaFire

Demycilian wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

SugaComa wrote: »

Demycilian wrote: »

Stop ruining our game with pvp, ZOS.

Stop ruining my forum with dumb statements

I love both PvP and PvE

As do many of my friends

This Gabe like life is about experiencing things done you will love some you will hate ... But dues that mean we must destroy the world of what we hate ... Cos if so then all we will have is war

I have many PvP friends who don't do housing ... But they'll happily sell their rewards for gold

You see pvpers need potions

Pvpers tend to buy the materials from farmers

Farmers tend to hate PvP and dungeons but love crafting and farming

Pve players love dungeons but hate farming n crafting

So by carefully allowing certain items greater chances in certain activities what we get is people doing what they love selling what they don't need to buy what they do need and what you get is an economy

However greed is killing this economy as it stands making more people a hack of all trades as rewards are unbalanced in the way of earning gold this gives pvpers an increased chance of earning gold to rebalance that economy.

It's an intelligent move by ZoS

Yea, its an intelligent move to inconvenience and annoy the vast majority of players to do the dead niche of the game a favour. If you are ZOS.

... your forum?

Dead niche with 100 plus players in queue.
What is the matter you can face other players and you can't craft? lol

Nothing but two remaining downsized Cyro maps and all you got is a 100 man queue? You are in my prayers, good sir.

News for you PvP is not going away so troll on.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

ZOS should just revert caltrops to their original huge radius (so they are actually useful in pvp again) and make them NOT WORK in pve. so pve'ers stop complaining about them.

You don't need caltrops, they are a pvp tool, in a pvp skill line, and yet every PvE tryhard feels entitled to them because they squeeze out 0.00005% more DPS so you HAVE to run them and ZOS even changed them to make them better for pve and suck in pvp.

Either revert them and ban them from pve, or remove them from the alliance war skill line entirely, put them in undaunted, and rename them to Carebeartrops.

Apache_Kid

Imagine complaining about having to get caltrops. I can't even.

You can buy storage with master writ vouchers. Better get crafting. I heard it takes awhile