Are non subs actually included here?

Colecovision

The “free” housing update wasn’t actually free despite the statement 2 eso lives ago. It’s free to try and $15 a month to use. 15 slots in the small rooms isn’t doable and with the number of items already used in some of the yards, it’s even worse. In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house. Now here we are again.
Transmog was a lie and any reasonable customer service team would have avoided that term at all cost. Custom costumes is almost here and it actually sounds great. If that were initially announced I’d be thrilled. That is, if I can use it.

I wasn’t expecting free stuff or asking for anything extra. ZoS made an announcement and then I thought I’d be able to change armor styles. ZoS brought it up, not me. But am I actually getting nothing here? Non subs dye armor, not costumes. Are these different? Can non subs dye these costumes? Please tell me my Transmog custom costume experience isn’t red only armor that is less customizable than current crafted gear.

Acrolas

Colecovision wrote: »

In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house.

Care to prove that?

coop500

Crap I didn't think about that....

Colecovision

Acrolas wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house.

Care to prove that?

I’ll look tonight for the correct house, but there is one that comes with 100 total slots and 50 are used. So that’s 50 more for non subs and 150 for subs who get a total of 200. Might be cyrodil jungle.

JasonSilverSpring

Colecovision wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house.

Care to prove that?

I’ll look tonight for the correct house, but there is one that comes with 100 total slots and 50 are used. So that’s 50 more for non subs and 150 for subs who get a total of 200. Might be cyrodil jungle.

That still means twice as many slots. You can remove some of those if you want.

Colecovision

JasonSilverSpring wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

Acrolas wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house.

Care to prove that?

I’ll look tonight for the correct house, but there is one that comes with 100 total slots and 50 are used. So that’s 50 more for non subs and 150 for subs who get a total of 200. Might be cyrodil jungle.

That still means twice as many slots. You can remove some of those if you want.

The unfurnished house is presented with them in the preview with no warning. I also used the word “additional” for the reason you are stating. In stripping it down you also reveal a house that is incomplete more than it is unfurnished. Regardless, it hits non subs harder. I think the Amaya lake lodge had 70 of the 300 used. I had no idea when I bought it. Terrible surprise. That’s not a 3 to 1 ratio, but it’s basically a free to try part of the game for non subs. Hopefully that’s the big picture I’m conveying.

coop500

Can we stay on topic please?

DoctorESO

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Colecovision

DoctorESO wrote: »

You get one house for free and two for cheap (the inn rooms). You even get a third for cheap if you have Morrowind. Just use one of the rooms to hold all your storage items. Think of the inn room as a storage unit.

Edit: I missed your point initially. I do see those as storage closets, but with 30 I'd do something. Across the board though it's more like a free photoshop with a watermark. Let's see if they improve on this though. I know the plus members are hungry for a massive increase, but it non subs could get close to where they are now, I'd suddenly see the housing the free upgrade ZoS sees it as.

AlienatedGoat

DoctorESO wrote: »

You get one house for free and two for cheap (the inn rooms). You even get a third for cheap if you have Morrowind. Just use one of the rooms to hold all your storage items. Think of the inn room as a storage unit.

You can actually get all three for free if you make alts on the other alliances.

Chadak

A miserable but free experience is still free.

You realize that they probably spent more time figuring out how to make the free play experience as miserable as possible without being completely alienating than they did on the entire Morrowind expansion, right?

They care about one thing: money.

Their only objective is to get us to give them our money.

Everything revolves around this objective. -EVERYTHING-

There is no other goal. There is no other purpose.

If you enjoy things, that's nice, but not the point. Not for them anyway.

You're looking for a good time. They're looking to make as much dosh for as little effort as they can get away with.

So no. As a free player, you're not going to be catered to or thrown a bone. Every single bone there is will be a store purchase or sub fee away, and even as a subscriber you'll only be buying in on a less miserable experience.

Because the point remains singular, and if you have any money left, they want it. There is no other story to tell.

The end.

Seri

Colecovision wrote: »

The “free” housing update wasn’t actually free despite the statement 2 eso lives ago. It’s free to try and $15 a month to use. 15 slots in the small rooms isn’t doable and with the number of items already used in some of the yards, it’s even worse.

The small 'house' I think you're talking about is barely useable with the ESO+ limit either. Some of the smaller houses have pretty poor 'items per area' density. That said, you can easily fill the homes to look like houses from the rest of the ESO universe within the non-sub limits.

In some cases, eso plus gets 3 times the additional furniture slots beyond the initial purchase of the unfurnished house.

there is one that comes with 100 total slots and 50 are used. So that’s 50 more for non subs and 150 for subs who get a total of 200

The unfurnished house is presented with them in the preview with no warning. I also used the word “additional” for the reason you are stating.

Getting a little confused here now. You've mentioned 'additional slots' in terms of what ESO+ gets on top of the 'free' slots left on a purchased unfurnished? Or purchased furnished? I don't own the house you mentioned but I'd be surprised that it would come with 50 items in the unfurnished version, most of I've seen is 10 or so (generally trees and shrubs).

Honestly, I don't think ZoS was expecting people to cram as many items into houses as they have - look all over Tamriel, every house or building you go into is relatively sparse vs the subscribers who go for the 'cozy homely' look. I'd be happy if they increased the base house limits by a small amount, eg ~20%, but really doesn't need to be much more than that.

Tasear

That free house you get actually has a monthly fee in other games. You can even buy it for a month and use all slots and it won't be taken away come sub is over. As to say grass isn't so bad on this side.

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

better Rich on the Run than poor in the barn.

Narvuntien

Housing is a vanity project.
Restrictions breed creativity
Get creative with your limitations.