Pls Make Ice staff "cooler" :p

JiKama

I was tanking with it last night and didn't have to much trouble. If any changes could be made to make tanking better at least make heavy attacks faster for the Ice Staff only , but deal less damage.Maybe make destructive touch taunt the target if it cannot be snared. If anything I would love for it to be Viable as a DPS end game option instead of a Subpar tanking option.

KanedaSyndrome

Would like a dps version of Ice Staff without having it ruined by the forced tank version under destro passive.

VaranisArano

How cool do you need it? Is 31 degrees Fahrenheit sufficient or do we need to go below 0 degrees?

(Sorry, I'm a science teacher. Bad temperature jokes come with the territory.)

More seriously, I like the addition of a a magicka tank weapon. However, I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to make the taunt a completely separate passive that effects either only the Ice staff or is available for any destro staff (though then I'm pretty sure everyone would swap to lightning staff). That would let players have the option to tank with the Ice staff without losing out on the Tri-focus passive if they just want to DPS with the ice staff.

Gorilla

VaranisArano wrote: »

How cool do you need it? Is 31 degrees Fahrenheit sufficient or do we need to go below 0 degrees?

(Sorry, I'm a science teacher. Bad temperature jokes come with the territory.)

More seriously, I like the addition of a a magicka tank weapon. However, I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to make the taunt a completely separate passive that effects either only the Ice staff or is available for any destro staff (though then I'm pretty sure everyone would swap to lightning staff). That would let players have the option to tank with the Ice staff without losing out on the Tri-focus passive if they just want to DPS with the ice staff.

I think this a great idea.

Arobain

i dont understand why ice staff tanking gets so much ***, its actually really good, i have an ice tank myself, and it also does pretty good damage

Domander

It should have it's own block animation.

CardboardedBox

Yesterday I just jumped head first into attempting to make a full ice based dps warden.

......By god what have I done?.....


But for serious, completely disregarding all it's other problems, unless they make the ice staff count as two armor set slots, it will never measure up to sword n board that can receive two full sets, plus a monster set.

Arobain

CardboardedBox wrote: »

Yesterday I just jumped head first into attempting to make a full ice based dps warden.

......By god what have I done?.....


But for serious, completely disregarding all it's other problems, unless they make the ice staff count as two armor set slots, it will never measure up to sword n board that can receive two full sets, plus a monster set.

nope, my frost staff tank is better than my sword and board tank, can give skyreach runs, can dps and tank very reliably at the same time, ( of course less damage than a dedicated dps ) and it actually gets stronger with the more mobs its fighting ( pve ) and in pvp it takes on a completely different role, its great, all these frost staff nay sayers i swear havent even tried to make a decent build with it

Haquor

Depends what you consider a tank. You can taunt with a dps character and hold agro and survive with shields and heals and quick reactions in a lot of content. With a destruction staff in your hand you lose a whole bunch of good passives and survivability that come with sword and board.

Tank if you want with a destruction staff. It will just be a sub optimal tank. And thats fine for lots of content.

jakeedmundson

CardboardedBox wrote: »

Yesterday I just jumped head first into attempting to make a full ice based dps warden.

......By god what have I done?.....


But for serious, completely disregarding all it's other problems, unless they make the ice staff count as two armor set slots, it will never measure up to sword n board that can receive two full sets, plus a monster set.

Curious about the frost mage warden thing...

I was in the process of making one. Have you done any dps testing? I have all this gold winterborn jewelry from vma weekly rewards and thought it could be fun to try. If you could hit 25k dps with that type of setup... would be fun for vet dungeons still.

Checkmath

best option would be here to create a new skill line with a magicka version of snb. a whole skilline for tanking with magicka, so it still can be a staff or whatever. in that case, ice staves could be a dps weapons again, if they would buff it a little bit.
everything else is just suboptimal, since the skills from destruction staves dont actually meet the idea of tanking.

LordSlif

Fast heavy atk, just it

Joosef_Kivikilpi

VaranisArano wrote: »

How cool do you need it? Is 31 degrees Fahrenheit sufficient or do we need to go below 0 degrees?

(Sorry, I'm a science teacher. Bad temperature jokes come with the territory.)

More seriously, I like the addition of a a magicka tank weapon. However, I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to make the taunt a completely separate passive that effects either only the Ice staff or is available for any destro staff (though then I'm pretty sure everyone would swap to lightning staff). That would let players have the option to tank with the Ice staff without losing out on the Tri-focus passive if they just want to DPS with the ice staff.

Or give the Frost Heavy Attack like at LEAST a 5000 point damage shield (1500 is super minimal for a two second channel time).

I agree. Give elemental susceptibility skill a taunt with it OR any ice destro ability to be given inherent taunt when being used by Frost Staff. Inner Fire costs WAY too much to keep up on a Magicka Tank to aggro ranged targets! haha