Why are crown store offerings so lackluster now?

MornaBaine

For one thing... why are there so FEW new offerings each month??? WHY are we getting the WORST hairstyles instead of the ones NPCs have that we've been BEGGING for... in some cases for over a year? WHY aren't we getting makeup and facial hair offerings in the crown store? WHY no jewelry and tattoos? Why so FEW costumes and spaced out the way they are? WHY are we STILL not getting costumes the NPCs are wearing IN WROTHGAR???

Is it REALLY so you can actually put every actually desirable thing ever in the gamble boxes instead? This is unacceptable.

Korah_Eaglecry

Because anything interesting is being diverted into the Crown Crates.

coop500

Indeed, sadly all the good stuff is in the crown crates.

Dracane

It's like letting money rot away, that you find on the streets.
They could be making much more money People are willing to buy. But it seems, they don't need the money.

MissBizz

I really can't say much than those two above me, but that's my thoughts.

Think of it as money saving. If all the good stuff goes in crates, and you don't buy crates... you buy much less!

BloodWolfe

Because they want us to all spend ridiculous amounts of money buying crown crates. I've lost all interest in this game lately and seeing the lackluster monthly crown store offerings and how everything decent or better is all crown crates I've moved on to other games. I'm so sick of crates/lootbox gambling in games.

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

Sadly though, too many people willing to blindly open their wallets (either too much money or they go into debt for this crap) and constantly buy crates spending likely more in a month on crates than what a sub would cost us over the span of 1-2 years worth of playing. I miss the sub-based days! Some days makes me miss WoW and it's sub but I then remember I don't like that game anymore so single player games it is for me now to avoid this crap.

I cancelled my ESO+ and may jump in randomly from time to time when bored in between other games but that's about it unless ZOS changes things. The lackluster crown store offerings need to improve and the mounts now in the crates that can't even be bought with gems are the 2 big things. I don't like the crates but the gems were at least some sort of consolation for those spending so much they know they can eventually use gems for crate items but now with stuff that gems can't even purchase is crossing the wrong line!

ScardyFox

I have to agree. The crown crates are absurd (to me) to begin with - now its being compounded by the mediocrity of the crown store items. I am sure they are trying to break down people who refuse to buy the crates with their pedestrian offerings. I can't speak for anyone else (if my presumption is right), but good luck with that.

Taysa

They literally reskinned the worst hairstyle they've ever offered.

What the **** ZoS?

Huyen

BloodWolfe wrote: »

Because they want us to all spend ridiculous amounts of money buying crown crates. I've lost all interest in this game lately and seeing the lackluster monthly crown store offerings and how everything decent or better is all crown crates I've moved on to other games. I'm so sick of crates/lootbox gambling in games.

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

Sadly though, too many people willing to blindly open their wallets (either too much money or they go into debt for this crap) and constantly buy crates spending likely more in a month on crates than what a sub would cost us over the span of 1-2 years worth of playing. I miss the sub-based days! Some days makes me miss WoW and it's sub but I then remember I don't like that game anymore so single player games it is for me now to avoid this crap.

I cancelled my ESO+ and may jump in randomly from time to time when bored in between other games but that's about it unless ZOS changes things. The lackluster crown store offerings need to improve and the mounts now in the crates that can't even be bought with gems are the 2 big things. I don't like the crates but the gems were at least some sort of consolation for those spending so much they know they can eventually use gems for crate items but now with stuff that gems can't even purchase is crossing the wrong line!

I completely agree on this. And just count on top of that the forced playtime in pve for the tranmute shards, and to keep up your amount of sales to stay put in the tradingguild you are in. Its a game, not a fulltime job!

MarbleQuiche

BloodWolfe wrote: »

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

This is what's really short-sighted about crates. They've got the reputation of one of the biggest IPs in gaming in their hands. Push it too far and they'll destroy it.

I say this as someone who can afford and buys crates. Hypocrite? Totally.

Korah_Eaglecry

Dracane wrote: »

It's like letting money rot away, that you find on the streets.
They could be making much more money People are willing to buy. But it seems, they don't need the money.

Its a choice between steady smaller purchases and big fat lump sum purchases. Which the latter is what Crown Crates bring. Just a handful of Whales can outspend a large number of players by a long shot.

1 Whale might be willing to drop 250 dollars on the game per month. Where as 10 normal players might spend 15 dollars each. That Whale would have still spent 100 dollars more than those 10 players. Get enough Whales to offset the players paying small increments and you have no reason to focus on those normal players. Sure you can throw them a bone once and a while because you still want their 150 dollars. But this way you can tap into both. Downsizing the Crown Store offers allows them to still tap the normal players purchasing habits and diverts the majority of resources to the Crown Crates where they can continue to entice Whales to drop loads of money so they can "collect it all".

helediron

My spending to crown store has dropped sharply since Morrowind. There are clear reasons:
- Crown crates gem earnings turned to near zero. These are now pure gambling and worthless to buy.
- New houses AND their furniture is completely behind crown store. What i can't furnish myself i don't buy.
- Too many copy-pasted items like the almost identical cowboy hats and stream of reskinned senches.
- Too little actual systems development.

Tan9oSuccka

Very disappointing offers. Looks like recolored already offered costumes.

Where’s that Nocturnal costume at? Looks totally impractical for battle...but I want it.

MarbleQuiche

Out of interest, how many people have seen mounts in game from the current season of crates?

You used to see one of each within an hour of them coming out. It's anecdotal, but I think I've only seen one horse since this season dropped.

LadyAstrum

When the people keep rewarding ZoS by throwing money at crown crates, this is the result. They feed off the feverish desire for good items and put them into crates for maximum profit.

Korah_Eaglecry

LadyAstrum wrote: »

When the people keep rewarding ZoS by throwing money at crown crates, this is the result. They feed off the feverish desire for good items and put them into crates for maximum profit.

LadyAstrum wrote: »

When the people keep rewarding ZoS by throwing money at crown crates, this is the result. They feed off the feverish desire for good items and put them into crates for maximum profit.

Yup, its totally not ZOS fault for building mechanisms that entice players to indulge in activities that exploit their psychological issues. Its all their faults that their brains work the way they do. They should just have more control, like you!

LadyAstrum

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

LadyAstrum wrote: »

When the people keep rewarding ZoS by throwing money at crown crates, this is the result. They feed off the feverish desire for good items and put them into crates for maximum profit.

LadyAstrum wrote: »

When the people keep rewarding ZoS by throwing money at crown crates, this is the result. They feed off the feverish desire for good items and put them into crates for maximum profit.

Yup, its totally not ZOS fault for building mechanisms that entice players to indulge in activities that exploit their psychological issues. Its all their faults that their brains work the way they do. They should just have more control, like you!

Someone's been triggered.

Self-control is easy when one realises how ridiculous loot boxes are.

monktoasty

Regardless..it's just a sleazy way to make money.

SisterGoat

On the plus side, they're offering the Wraith of Crows polymorph this month. That one is really cool.

Danikat

Am I the only one who likes some of this month's crown store offerings?

I've been wanting some formal wear for my male characters that would work on multiple races but especially my dark elf sorcerer. Surprisingly I didn't like the Telvanni robes (they looked too similar to existing light armour and I didn't like the way they dyed), but depending on how dye works the new Jarl's one looks promising.

I also like the two argonian outfits, but they might be too similar to the bosmer ones I already have, and I like the snow leopard pet too.

For me that's a lot of good offerings in one month. (And I mean across any game, not just ESO.) I also liked a lot of the stuff in November and ended up getting all the shadow ghost mounts plus a few other bits.

I'm definitely frustrated by not just the amount of good stuff but the amount of stuff total that goes into the crown crates. Good items are subjective - it'd be easy for one person to say all the good stuff is in the crates while someone else thinks everything in the crates is trash and the best items are always in the store. But I think it's pretty safe to say that since they started the number of new items in the crates has massively out numbered the number of new items in the crown store.

But there are still good items in the store, which is fortunate for ZOS or they'd be getting no money at all from me in between story DLC releases.

Esha76

I also have noticed this and agree the crown store items have been very unappealing lately. ZOS is clearly trying to get people to roll the dice for more desirable items out of those stupid crown crates.

I am not happy about this. Depending on what direction they go with a few things being announced this week, I just may be another long-time player moving on.

QuebraRegra

BloodWolfe wrote: »

Because they want us to all spend ridiculous amounts of money buying crown crates. I've lost all interest in this game lately and seeing the lackluster monthly crown store offerings and how everything decent or better is all crown crates I've moved on to other games. I'm so sick of crates/lootbox gambling in games.

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

Sadly though, too many people willing to blindly open their wallets (either too much money or they go into debt for this crap) and constantly buy crates spending likely more in a month on crates than what a sub would cost us over the span of 1-2 years worth of playing. I miss the sub-based days! Some days makes me miss WoW and it's sub but I then remember I don't like that game anymore so single player games it is for me now to avoid this crap.

I cancelled my ESO+ and may jump in randomly from time to time when bored in between other games but that's about it unless ZOS changes things. The lackluster crown store offerings need to improve and the mounts now in the crates that can't even be bought with gems are the 2 big things. I don't like the crates but the gems were at least some sort of consolation for those spending so much they know they can eventually use gems for crate items but now with stuff that gems can't even purchase is crossing the wrong line!

wha? did I miss something? you can't buy the mounts with gems now? if so, that's a major FAIL on ZOS part.

MornaBaine

QuebraRegra wrote: »

BloodWolfe wrote: »

Because they want us to all spend ridiculous amounts of money buying crown crates. I've lost all interest in this game lately and seeing the lackluster monthly crown store offerings and how everything decent or better is all crown crates I've moved on to other games. I'm so sick of crates/lootbox gambling in games.

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

Sadly though, too many people willing to blindly open their wallets (either too much money or they go into debt for this crap) and constantly buy crates spending likely more in a month on crates than what a sub would cost us over the span of 1-2 years worth of playing. I miss the sub-based days! Some days makes me miss WoW and it's sub but I then remember I don't like that game anymore so single player games it is for me now to avoid this crap.

I cancelled my ESO+ and may jump in randomly from time to time when bored in between other games but that's about it unless ZOS changes things. The lackluster crown store offerings need to improve and the mounts now in the crates that can't even be bought with gems are the 2 big things. I don't like the crates but the gems were at least some sort of consolation for those spending so much they know they can eventually use gems for crate items but now with stuff that gems can't even purchase is crossing the wrong line!

wha? did I miss something? you can't buy the mounts with gems now? if so, that's a major FAIL on ZOS part.

There is a whole new class of mounts you CANNOT buy with gems now, no matter how many you get.

Elsonso

MissBizz wrote: »

I really can't say much than those two above me, but that's my thoughts.

Think of it as money saving. If all the good stuff goes in crates, and you don't buy crates... you buy much less!

This has been working splendidly for me all through 2017. The worst thing ZOS could do to me this year is put an end to Crown Crates!

MornaBaine

lordrichter wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

I really can't say much than those two above me, but that's my thoughts.

Think of it as money saving. If all the good stuff goes in crates, and you don't buy crates... you buy much less!

This has been working splendidly for me all through 2017. The worst thing ZOS could do to me this year is put an end to Crown Crates!

LOL Well then I hope they do you wrong! Honestly, I'd have a lot less hate for the crates if they'd stock up the actual store with cool things and let you exchange ANYTHING you don't want from a crate for gems.

One_ofMany

Crown Crates are just silly. I will spend more than I should in the Crown Store, but I will absolutely not waste my money on a slim chance of getting something I want. I would really love to see the actually numbers here. I cannot fathom that they would make more from the minority that buy tons of crates...than they would from offering every item for sale separately.

They should bust out all items for Crowns for a month and see what they rake in.

Besides, honestly, it is a nasty business practice.

MornaBaine

One_ofMany wrote: »

Crown Crates are just silly. I will spend more than I should in the Crown Store, but I will absolutely not waste my money on a slim chance of getting something I want. I would really love to see the actually numbers here. I cannot fathom that they would make more from the minority that buy tons of crates...than they would from offering every item for sale separately.

They should bust out all items for Crowns for a month and see what they rake in.

Besides, honestly, it is a nasty business practice.

Could not agree with you more. I've now officially gone from being excited about the store showcases to rather dreading them.

RebelFireStorm

because they make more money putting things in RNG boxes with a low drop rate than straight up putting a price on them

this is what happens when you hire the SWTOR marketing director who introduced the RNG boxes in that game

gg zeni

LadyAstrum

Danikat wrote: »

Am I the only one who likes some of this month's crown store offerings?

I've been wanting some formal wear for my male characters that would work on multiple races but especially my dark elf sorcerer. Surprisingly I didn't like the Telvanni robes (they looked too similar to existing light armour and I didn't like the way they dyed), but depending on how dye works the new Jarl's one looks promising.

I also like the two argonian outfits, but they might be too similar to the bosmer ones I already have, and I like the snow leopard pet too.

For me that's a lot of good offerings in one month. (And I mean across any game, not just ESO.) I also liked a lot of the stuff in November and ended up getting all the shadow ghost mounts plus a few other bits.

I'm definitely frustrated by not just the amount of good stuff but the amount of stuff total that goes into the crown crates. Good items are subjective - it'd be easy for one person to say all the good stuff is in the crates while someone else thinks everything in the crates is trash and the best items are always in the store. But I think it's pretty safe to say that since they started the number of new items in the crates has massively out numbered the number of new items in the crown store.

But there are still good items in the store, which is fortunate for ZOS or they'd be getting no money at all from me in between story DLC releases.

I like some items....but for me, I guess I expected my socks to be knocked off considering it's the start of a new year.

I like the snow leopard, but I'm not paying 1000 crowns for it. I might get the Nix mount, which is strange for me because I usually only like horses. I'm planning to buy one Argonian outfit, and the new emote.

Eatmyface

BloodWolfe wrote: »

Because they want us to all spend ridiculous amounts of money buying crown crates. I've lost all interest in this game lately and seeing the lackluster monthly crown store offerings and how everything decent or better is all crown crates I've moved on to other games. I'm so sick of crates/lootbox gambling in games.

Microtransactions suck enough as it is with this industry but the gambling is getting out of control and it pushes me away. If ZOS keeps up like this I will avoid anything from them like it's the modern day plague known as EA! lol

Sadly though, too many people willing to blindly open their wallets (either too much money or they go into debt for this crap) and constantly buy crates spending likely more in a month on crates than what a sub would cost us over the span of 1-2 years worth of playing. I miss the sub-based days! Some days makes me miss WoW and it's sub but I then remember I don't like that game anymore so single player games it is for me now to avoid this crap.

I cancelled my ESO+ and may jump in randomly from time to time when bored in between other games but that's about it unless ZOS changes things. The lackluster crown store offerings need to improve and the mounts now in the crates that can't even be bought with gems are the 2 big things. I don't like the crates but the gems were at least some sort of consolation for those spending so much they know they can eventually use gems for crate items but now with stuff that gems can't even purchase is crossing the wrong line!

Cool bro.

SydneyGrey

That hair is pretty terrible. I love the leopard, though. I think he's really beautifully done. The polymorph is also extremely awesome.
The costumes are fine. They'll look good on some characters but not others.