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God mode activated in Cyro. End of game
Rokhza
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Just tried to kill the usual red ball group at Roe (EU). Lots and lots and lots of AD and DC but it is useless. Nothing helps. They are immortal.
I really don't care how this is possible, I only know that the game has now forever lost its meaning.
I have played quite a lot of pvp, mainly DAOC and Eve online. I remember how frustrating it was to get steamrolled by a group of trolls from Midgard and and how I simply had no idea what to do. But we adapted, made bomb groups, learned to kite and make them overextend and we managed to level the playing field. Trolls could bleed.
In Eve I remember how we panicked when Selene and her mercenary gang jumped into our system. With a TITAN no less! We lost countless ships and ISK but eventually we adapted and learnt how to deal with them. We even built our own titans and stroke back.
The point I am trying to make is this: I don't mind horrible odds, I don't mind dying to players who are dedicated and better than me.
But I do mind when a game has a Godmode and it is allowed to go on forever.
Cancelled my sub and moving on. Pity, I was really enjoying the game.
I really don't care how this is possible, I only know that the game has now forever lost its meaning.
I have played quite a lot of pvp, mainly DAOC and Eve online. I remember how frustrating it was to get steamrolled by a group of trolls from Midgard and and how I simply had no idea what to do. But we adapted, made bomb groups, learned to kite and make them overextend and we managed to level the playing field. Trolls could bleed.
In Eve I remember how we panicked when Selene and her mercenary gang jumped into our system. With a TITAN no less! We lost countless ships and ISK but eventually we adapted and learnt how to deal with them. We even built our own titans and stroke back.
The point I am trying to make is this: I don't mind horrible odds, I don't mind dying to players who are dedicated and better than me.
But I do mind when a game has a Godmode and it is allowed to go on forever.
Cancelled my sub and moving on. Pity, I was really enjoying the game.
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Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Guess you're talking about Zerg Squad at roe if you're on PC EU?
You can just avoid going there.
The lag tonight is something else tough, I tried using petrify on a NPC worker at roe farm. Used it 6 times and the npc didn't get stunned once. Just slowly walked towards me. Time for a break I think xDEU | PC4 -
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✭✭Type /godmode to enable godmode, its really cool
Can I have your stuff?- EU - Raid Leader of Banana Zerg Squad
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✭Type /godmode to enable godmode, its really cool
Can I have your stuff?
Can confirm it works. Jumped off Faregyl after activating it - took no damage!Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.<Noricum>
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If its Earthgore procs that are carrying them, ZOS is looking into that from their latest combat update. If it isn't that, I could suggest various tactics, but the honest answer is that if you aren't having fun fighting them, go have fun somewhere else on the map. If you leave them alone and go have fun doing something else, like hitting their back keeps or something, you win because you are having fun.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The easiest way to beat a zergball is to just not be where they are. If they are collectively 24 people taking one keep at a time, you could be two 12 man groups taking 2 keeps at a time and being twice as efficient.7 -
Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just tried to kill the usual red ball group at Roe (EU). Lots and lots and lots of AD and DC but it is useless. Nothing helps. They are immortal.
I really don't care how this is possible, I only know that the game has now forever lost its meaning.
I have played quite a lot of pvp, mainly DAOC and Eve online. I remember how frustrating it was to get steamrolled by a group of trolls from Midgard and and how I simply had no idea what to do. But we adapted, made bomb groups, learned to kite and make them overextend and we managed to level the playing field. Trolls could bleed.
In Eve I remember how we panicked when Selene and her mercenary gang jumped into our system. With a TITAN no less! We lost countless ships and ISK but eventually we adapted and learnt how to deal with them. We even built our own titans and stroke back.
The point I am trying to make is this: I don't mind horrible odds, I don't mind dying to players who are dedicated and better than me.
But I do mind when a game has a Godmode and it is allowed to go on forever.
Cancelled my sub and moving on. Pity, I was really enjoying the game.
What group did you play with which has tried to counter their raid. You mentioned 2 examples where you countered an enemy groups playstyle as a guild / group and then compare it to running solo in eso.
Groups can be killed very effectively by other groups when those other groups have pug support too.
I think it's more of an expectation problem than a real issue.@Solar_Breeze
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killimandrosb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭you cant really blame a good PBAoE team for their style. Biggest problem is rather theres not enough dedicated squads, so the few doing it and practicing it for a long time, they dont have much opponents. And tbf a good bomb squad should be able to take on a mass of pugs. Btw, youre not a dedicated bomb squad if you use/z to get the group big enough and give discord details. Then youre a pug group on discord. If you dont have a group able to go in and give a team like that a real fight, its probably better to move on and find easier targets. I do see though the frustration, but theyre in another league I think. Not many left, and its probably also frustrating for them having to fight only zergs and pug squads, its no challenge is it1 -
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✭✭✭✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.
@Derra
If I could like this a million times I would.
You just hit the nail straight on the head with the bolded part and drove it straight though in a single swing
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✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.
@Derra
If I could like this a million times I would.
You just hit the nail straight on the head with the bolded part and drove it straight though in a single swing
you're not allowed to post anymore until you actually log in game!2 -
Soulac✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭They're not immortal I've seen them wipe several times over the holiday period.
That´s done on purpose to give you the feeling that you actually stand a chance.
All according to the plan of lord emperor Sanct.R.I.P Dawnbreaker / Auriel´s Bow
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ku5h✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.
Sad thing is that ZoS's policy was to make ppl spread up, atleast i remember them talking about it few patches ago, so that we would have better performance, thus adding towns and such. Ofc, their plans and reality are two different dimensions.
I wouldnt care ZS is on the map, if they didnt significantly worsened server performance for everyone playing.2 -
MLRPZ✭✭✭✭✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.
Sad thing is that ZoS's policy was to make ppl spread up, atleast i remember them talking about it few patches ago, so that we would have better performance, thus adding towns and such. Ofc, their plans and reality are two different dimensions.
I wouldnt care ZS is on the map, if they didnt significantly worsened server performance for everyone playing.
This debate has been going for the past 2 years. Of course we impact the server performances, just as much as stacking 2-3 organised groups with the whole faction, which everyone does.AD // Marc the Epic Goat // Templar // AR50
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Leandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »you cant really blame a good PBAoE team for their style. Biggest problem is rather theres not enough dedicated squads, so the few doing it and practicing it for a long time, they dont have much opponents. And tbf a good bomb squad should be able to take on a mass of pugs. Btw, youre not a dedicated bomb squad if you use/z to get the group big enough and give discord details. Then youre a pug group on discord. If you dont have a group able to go in and give a team like that a real fight, its probably better to move on and find easier targets. I do see though the frustration, but theyre in another league I think. Not many left, and its probably also frustrating for them having to fight only zergs and pug squads, its no challenge is it
The problem is more that that specific group amalgamated most of the exceptional players from all guilds & alliances so that they do not have to fight equal opponents.1 -
AllPlayAndNoWork✭✭✭✭✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
]ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.]
Sad thing is that ZoS's policy was to make ppl spread up, atleast i remember them talking about it few patches ago, so that we would have better performance, thus adding towns and such. Ofc, their plans and reality are two different dimensions.
I wouldnt care ZS is on the map, if they didnt significantly worsened server performance for everyone playing.
Sad thing is ZoS were given some fantastic ways to spread the fighting by the players themselves and never took a blind bit of notice.... ZoS is what ZoS does....
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ZOS patched the game in a way that stacking half or all of your faction has the highest chance of success.
The only possible way to play if you do not want to run with half/all of your faction yourself is running in a coordinated ballgrp.
You could blame the players for doing it 18 months ago. You no longer can.
ZOS has demonstrated with their patching policy that they want you to get farmed by such groups as much as they want the whole faction to stack up.
Sad thing is that ZoS's policy was to make ppl spread up, atleast i remember them talking about it few patches ago, so that we would have better performance, thus adding towns and such. Ofc, their plans and reality are two different dimensions.
I wouldnt care ZS is on the map, if they didnt significantly worsened server performance for everyone playing.
Well what they told us and what they did are completely different things.
You don´t get ppl to spread up when towns take multiple people to conquer aswell as having flags that take multiple minutes to turn.
Meanwhile they took away almost everything that empowered solo and smallgrp play and in the process the solo ans smallscale players (the people that actually spread out on the map) joined their zergs or left (in the process being replaced by ppl that joined the zerg).
Also you could blame ZS a few patches/years ago maybe - because at that time they created a faction zerg by themselves by not dying and farming somewhere.
Nowadays the factionzerg is just native in it´s existance and the server will lag regardless if ZS is present or not - because zos patched the game in a way that the only realisticly achieveable enjoyable experience 3 out of 5 classes can have in cyro is by running around with 30 other players minimum.<Noricum>
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WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »you cant really blame a good PBAoE team for their style. Biggest problem is rather theres not enough dedicated squads, so the few doing it and practicing it for a long time, they dont have much opponents. And tbf a good bomb squad should be able to take on a mass of pugs. Btw, youre not a dedicated bomb squad if you use/z to get the group big enough and give discord details. Then youre a pug group on discord. If you dont have a group able to go in and give a team like that a real fight, its probably better to move on and find easier targets. I do see though the frustration, but theyre in another league I think. Not many left, and its probably also frustrating for them having to fight only zergs and pug squads, its no challenge is it
The problem is more that that specific group amalgamated most of the exceptional players from all guilds & alliances so that they do not have to fight equal opponents.
It's true they have the most good players. They also have some distinctly average ones nowadays.
When you have a ball group set up like this, how good you are solo or smallscale doesn't really amount to much though. Just your ability to listen, make sure you have your role filled and you have the correct gear/pots. Terribly boring and most selfish (because of the server impact) way to play the game in a lot of peoples opinions, I don't know if it's the worthless AP or a status thing. Having a Zerg Squad tabard doesn't impress most, not like it used to.
When I returned to the game during back end of Morrowind I thought the playstyle had vanished. Server performance was great. Then Earthgore was introduced and the ball groups were back in all of their over healing glory.
So yeah we can blame ZOS @Derra but I've seen enough 30v30 fights cause not even 1/3 the lag a 12 person size spam group makes fighting 30-40 players. Calculations and player effects crush this 'mega'server and all players are fully aware of this by now.
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭WillhelmBlack wrote: »So yeah we can blame ZOS @Derra but I've seen enough 30v30 fights cause not even 1/3 the lag a 12 person size spam group makes fighting 30-40 players. Calculations and player effects crush this 'mega'server and all players are fully aware of this by now.
If it´s a stretched out 30 v 30 for sure.
But that´s not longer the reality i see in cyrodiil when i log in. We literally have 50+ players traveling and fighting together in relatively compact groups nowadays.
There are no specific lagblobs anymore. It´s literally any group by now and those that don´t do it by themselves but within their factions pugzerg are even worse.
I´m playing almost every day and lag always starts way before ZS is even remotely close to forming a group (i sneakily observer their ts). Nobody is denying that their specific playstyle doesn´t help the problem.
It´s not the cause of it either though - except if you blame literally all groups and guilds and especially those that form and endorse the pugzergsurfing.
Edited by Derra on January 3, 2018 1:01PM<Noricum>
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Aelakhaii_De_Mythos✭✭✭✭
The problem is more that that specific group amalgamated most of the exceptional players from all guilds & alliances so that they do not have to fight equal opponents.
This is probably true, not sure who is in ZS anymore but the main and irreplacable trait of ZS is Sanct.
His situational awareness, responsiveness and just being able to utter 10 commands/sec is unique.
Also have alot of experience of the game but all top tier players have that pretty much.
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lao✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »The easiest way to beat a zergball is to just not be where they are. If they are collectively 24 people taking one keep at a time, you could be two 12 man groups taking 2 keeps at a time and being twice as efficient.
yea cos the point of pvp is to take keeps faster than the other factions. not to actually *** murder each other over and over like PvP would imply.
[Edit to remove bait]Edited by [Deleted User] on January 3, 2018 7:18PM2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »The easiest way to beat a zergball is to just not be where they are. If they are collectively 24 people taking one keep at a time, you could be two 12 man groups taking 2 keeps at a time and being twice as efficient.
yea cos the point of pvp is to take keeps faster than the other factions. not to actually *** murder each other over and over like PvP would imply.
You do realize that PVP in Cyrodiil is clearly about both taking objectives AND killing players?
You get rewarded for both and focusing on objectives inevitably leads to fights between players. If I want a fight, I know where to find a fight. I go to a contested objective. Much easier than wandering in a field waiting for someone to wander by so I can murder them/they can murder me.
The only PVP modes in this game that are unequivocally only about killing other players are Deathmatch Battlegrounds and Dueling. Everything else has some form of objective built in to the PVP mode that helps generate conflict.Edited by [Deleted User] on January 3, 2018 7:19PM2 -
altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Just tried to kill the usual red ball group at Roe (EU). Lots and lots and lots of AD and DC but it is useless. Nothing helps. They are immortal.
I really don't care how this is possible, I only know that the game has now forever lost its meaning.
I have played quite a lot of pvp, mainly DAOC and Eve online. I remember how frustrating it was to get steamrolled by a group of trolls from Midgard and and how I simply had no idea what to do. But we adapted, made bomb groups, learned to kite and make them overextend and we managed to level the playing field. Trolls could bleed.
In Eve I remember how we panicked when Selene and her mercenary gang jumped into our system. With a TITAN no less! We lost countless ships and ISK but eventually we adapted and learnt how to deal with them. We even built our own titans and stroke back.
The point I am trying to make is this: I don't mind horrible odds, I don't mind dying to players who are dedicated and better than me.
But I do mind when a game has a Godmode and it is allowed to go on forever.
Cancelled my sub and moving on. Pity, I was really enjoying the game.
you mean the 5 pieces of Cheater engine set?0 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Just tried to kill the usual red ball group at Roe (EU). Lots and lots and lots of AD and DC but it is useless. Nothing helps. They are immortal.
I really don't care how this is possible, I only know that the game has now forever lost its meaning.
I have played quite a lot of pvp, mainly DAOC and Eve online. I remember how frustrating it was to get steamrolled by a group of trolls from Midgard and and how I simply had no idea what to do. But we adapted, made bomb groups, learned to kite and make them overextend and we managed to level the playing field. Trolls could bleed.
In Eve I remember how we panicked when Selene and her mercenary gang jumped into our system. With a TITAN no less! We lost countless ships and ISK but eventually we adapted and learnt how to deal with them. We even built our own titans and stroke back.
The point I am trying to make is this: I don't mind horrible odds, I don't mind dying to players who are dedicated and better than me.
But I do mind when a game has a Godmode and it is allowed to go on forever.
Cancelled my sub and moving on. Pity, I was really enjoying the game.
you mean the 5 pieces of Cheater engine set?
Making accusations you can´t prove just discredits anything you say.
Edited by Derra on January 3, 2018 2:30PM<Noricum>
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DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER✭✭✭✭✭HEALING IN PVP IS PRETTY CRAZY, THATS JUST AN ORGANISED RAID. YOU CANT DO ANYTHING AGAINST AN ORGANISED RAID BESIDES TRYING TO BOMB THEM.
EARTHGORE IS GETTING NERFED SO THAT WILL HELP.0 -
MLRPZ✭✭✭✭✭killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »you cant really blame a good PBAoE team for their style. Biggest problem is rather theres not enough dedicated squads, so the few doing it and practicing it for a long time, they dont have much opponents. And tbf a good bomb squad should be able to take on a mass of pugs. Btw, youre not a dedicated bomb squad if you use/z to get the group big enough and give discord details. Then youre a pug group on discord. If you dont have a group able to go in and give a team like that a real fight, its probably better to move on and find easier targets. I do see though the frustration, but theyre in another league I think. Not many left, and its probably also frustrating for them having to fight only zergs and pug squads, its no challenge is it
The problem is more that that specific group amalgamated most of the exceptional players from all guilds & alliances so that they do not have to fight equal opponents.
We did not really aggressivly recruited people from other guild, they came by themselves because their own guild either died or didn't meet their requirement
also, lol at @you mean the 5 pieces of Cheater engine set?Edited by MLRPZ on January 3, 2018 3:01PMAD // Marc the Epic Goat // Templar // AR50
EP // The Goatfather // Templar // AR44
AD // Unforgoatable // Sorc // AR33
EP // You Goat Rekt // NB // AR28
EP // Bill Goats // Swarden // AR28
AD // Goat Ya // NB // AR24
AD // Unforgoatten // StamDK // AR 21
DC // Egoatcentric // Stamsorc // AR16
and many unused PVE chars
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lao✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »redspecter23 wrote: »The easiest way to beat a zergball is to just not be where they are. If they are collectively 24 people taking one keep at a time, you could be two 12 man groups taking 2 keeps at a time and being twice as efficient.
yea cos the point of pvp is to take keeps faster than the other factions. not to actually *** murder each other over and over like PvP would imply.
You do realize that PVP in Cyrodiil is clearly about both taking objectives AND killing players?
You get rewarded for both and focusing on objectives inevitably leads to fights between players. If I want a fight, I know where to find a fight. I go to a contested objective. Much easier than wandering in a field waiting for someone to wander by so I can murder them/they can murder me.
The only PVP modes in this game that are unequivocally only about killing other players are Deathmatch Battlegrounds and Dueling. Everything else has some form of objective built in to the PVP mode that helps generate conflict.
1) i dont care in the slightest bit what the original design is trying to do. never did, never will as im a pvper and not some [snip] zergling that requires guidance. i dont need some stupid brainless mechanic to tell me where to go.
2) you dont find fights at objectives. you find brainless zergs fighting mostly doors and npc´s and even if they meet an opposing player force its zero competitive and just mindless boring zerging. its very obvious that the mental capacity of the ppl involved there doesnt allow for anything more complex which is why they should just go back to pve where they belong.
3) this kind of players (trash) have ruined MMO´s for almost 2 decades now. its more than overdue that these *** tiers get forcefully pushed back under the rock they came from so the steering wheel can be taken over again by real players that can actually drive.
[Edited to remove inappropriate content]Edited by [Deleted User] on January 3, 2018 7:24PM2
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