Vampire abilities should be made unreflectable, undodgeable, go thru block and deal oblivion damage

The_Protagonist

With just two skills (out of which only one is offensive, that too with a channel cast time) and one ultimate, vampires really need love, the added squishiness from 25% fire damage and decreased health regen, undeath passive seems good on paper, but when you still die when you are bursted down with fire by more than two players, vampires are in a really bad place, werewolves are OP and have several skills they , but dont nerf WW but buff vampires.

Draxys

This is a fun trend, pick something and ask for it to have no counterplay. Can't wait to see what's next

Custos91

Draxys wrote: »

This is a fun trend, pick something and ask for it to have no counterplay. Can't wait to see what's next

I was goign to ask for a heal that could not be outranged by random players, but that seemed a little to silly xD

The_Protagonist

Draxys wrote: »

This is a fun trend, pick something and ask for it to have no counterplay. Can't wait to see what's next

At least looks like it's getting some attention, so why not try to get some love for vampires if this trend works

Waffennacht

My Templar would love to have an unblockable stun

ak_pvp

Mist just needs to be an immortal button tbrqhwyf.

jhharvest

ak_pvp wrote: »

Mist just needs to be an immortal button tbrqhwyf.

Like it used to be? (:

Datolite

Is this a troll post?

Ladislao

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Is this a troll post?

Yes, it is

The_Protagonist

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Is this a troll post?

Do you really have to ask? LOL

Datthaw

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Qbiken

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Vampire drain is abused so much at the moment it´s insane.......you can animation cancel it and still have the channel still going

The_Protagonist

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

There is a lot of potential in the class that ZOS has not realized in their implementation of design.

The_Protagonist

Qbiken wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Vampire drain is abused so much at the moment it´s insane.......you can animation cancel it and still have the channel still going

Really??! How do I do that?? :drooling with excitement:

On a serious note, that is more about bad design that people are abusing, that is not intended and should be fixed, and personally I have not seen that happening, not that I deny it's existence, must be rare.

The_Protagonist

BTW, I know that ultimates scale with relevant CP tree, but does it also scale with Stam/Mag pool as well? Insights please.

Qbiken

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Vampire drain is abused so much at the moment it´s insane.......you can animation cancel it and still have the channel still going

Really??! How do I do that?? :drooling with excitement:

On a serious note, that is more about bad design that people are abusing, that is not intended and should be fixed, and personally I have not seen that happening, not that I deny it's existence, must be rare.

Almost throw my computer out of the window yesterday when fighting outnumbered 1v3. One player kept animation cancel drain every 6-7 second (stunning once CC immunity is of is good gameplay, so not the issue here). But at the moment vampire drain has the same issue as nightblade fear. You can animationcancel it to an extent so that your opponent can´t even see the animation being made and it causes a weird delay in you even realising you´ve been CC:ed.

The_Protagonist

Qbiken wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Vampire drain is abused so much at the moment it´s insane.......you can animation cancel it and still have the channel still going

Really??! How do I do that?? :drooling with excitement:

On a serious note, that is more about bad design that people are abusing, that is not intended and should be fixed, and personally I have not seen that happening, not that I deny it's existence, must be rare.

Almost throw my computer out of the window yesterday when fighting outnumbered 1v3. One player kept animation cancel drain every 6-7 second (stunning once CC immunity is of is good gameplay, so not the issue here). But at the moment vampire drain has the same issue as nightblade fear. You can animationcancel it to an extent so that your opponent can´t even see the animation being made and it causes a weird delay in you even realising you´ve been CC:ed.

Agreed, that is really bad, and I clarify that it is bad design that has to be addressed, not an intended mechanic being abused if done knowingly.

Raudgrani

No.

- Best regards, a vampire MagDK and Stamina Nightblade

The_Protagonist

Raudgrani wrote: »

No.

- Best regards, a vampire MagDK and Stamina Nightblade

Cool, please elaborate

SugaComa

I agree ... I also think that templars vampires bane skill should cure vampirism in order to maintain balance

The_Protagonist

SugaComa wrote: »

I agree ... I also think that templars vampires bane skill should cure vampirism in order to maintain balance

LOL, sure, if all vampire attacks can infect non-vampires with vampirism.

Datthaw

Qbiken wrote: »

Datthaw wrote: »

They could honestly rethink the cc in vamp tree, at its curent state is pretty useless

Vampire drain is abused so much at the moment it´s insane.......you can animation cancel it and still have the channel still going

Lol really? I can't think of any decent player running this skill. I'm totally aware that you can animation cancel it but even with that it's like 1 out of 1000 players actually put this skill on their bar.

Morgul667

Is this a troll?

rteezy

The_Protagonist wrote: »

With just two skills (out of which only one is offensive, that too with a channel cast time) and one ultimate, vampires really need love, the added squishiness from 25% fire damage and decreased health regen, undeath passive seems good on paper, but when you still die when you are bursted down with fire by more than two players, vampires are in a really bad place, werewolves are OP and have several skills they , but dont nerf WW but buff vampires.

no one gets vampire for the abilities or "to be a vampire"

other then mistform(ocasional) and bats u get vamp for the regen and undeath passives (stealth if nb)

The_Protagonist

rteezy wrote: »

The_Protagonist wrote: »

With just two skills (out of which only one is offensive, that too with a channel cast time) and one ultimate, vampires really need love, the added squishiness from 25% fire damage and decreased health regen, undeath passive seems good on paper, but when you still die when you are bursted down with fire by more than two players, vampires are in a really bad place, werewolves are OP and have several skills they , but dont nerf WW but buff vampires.

no one gets vampire for the abilities or "to be a vampire"

other then mistform(ocasional) and bats u get vamp for the regen and undeath passives (stealth if nb)

That is so true for the present condition, I really wish it was much more, really hate the extra 25% fire damage, but can't give up the crouch speed at lvl 4.

ManDraKE

they should also instant kill everything, steal all the target's gold, and grant you 10x temper alloys on activation.

Thogard

ManDraKE wrote: »

they should also instant kill everything, steal all the target's gold, and grant you 10x temper alloys on activation.

Sounds like a nerf to me. I already get 12x tempers on activation and you want to decrease that?! Learn to play noob