Suggestions for Battlegrounds

TimeDazzler

1) Cp and No-CP queue
2) Make pre-mades have a limit to 2 people or 3 people, if you have more you cannot queue
3) Remove power sigil for all modes
4) Delete crazy king and replace with last team standing (play zone gets smaller and smaller to prevent camping)
5) Delete 4 v 4 v 4, and make it 6 v 6

TarrNokk

All OK, but strictly no premades sounds better for me

DosPanchos

Yea, it seems no premades is the easiest solution until ranked play is added (if it ever is).

Betsararie

Don't understand the hate that the 4v4v4 setup gets in BGs.... it doesn't remove any skill from things... Not a fan of situational awareness?

I agree other formats are critically needed.

Waffennacht

I also hate that power up

Beardimus

1. Yep, or remove CP
2. Or a separate queue. Also add private matches for those that want to play together - guild only invites etc premade vs pug is FAR less of a problem than CP only
3. I don't mind it, if you have a team Strat to get it
4. Agreed, it's a bad mode
5. Disagree. 3 way is better. The probs with it are due to 1&2

Lexxypwns

Nothing worse than the team that kites and get picks on solo people until the sigil is up and only then will they engage in team fights...

TimeDazzler

Beardimus wrote: »

1. Yep, or remove CP
2. Or a separate queue. Also add private matches for those that want to play together - guild only invites etc premade vs pug is FAR less of a problem than CP only

I feel like if they made a separate queue for both CP and non-CP and for non-premades and premades it would be really hard to find a match.

Solariken

I wouldn't mind if they disabled premades of 3 or 4 but I think we should be able to queue as a duo. BG's can be a lot of extra fun playing with a buddy.

Maulkin

Solariken wrote: »

I wouldn't mind if they disabled premades of 3 or 4 but I think we should be able to queue as a duo. BG's can be a lot of extra fun playing with a buddy.

They don't need to be disabled, they just need to have a different queue. If that queue has too few opponents and therefore they can't get enough games or they end up meeting the same opponents all day, then they can always split up to join the solo/duo queue.

And yeah duo is no problem. The dynamics with full premades are entirely different where people can have specialised roles and run complimentary group sets. In duo, you still have to bring your best all-round builds in stead of specialising.

Also there's also the mentality thing. Sometimes players think the opponents are a premade because they show basic coordination and so they kinda whinge and give up. A bit like some players in PC complain that the opponents uses hacks/macros or whatever as a cop out instead of focusing on playing better. If the players knew they were in the solo/duo queue and thus the opposition is no premade, they might be more inclined to pay attention and keep trying instead of giving up up and whinging the first time they mindlessly run into a 1v4 and die.

Thogard

Maulkin wrote: »

Also there's also the mentality thing. Sometimes players think the opponents are a premade because they show basic coordination and so they kinda whinge and give up. A bit like some players in PC complain that the opponents uses hacks/macros or whatever as a cop out instead of focusing on playing better. If the players knew they were in the solo/duo queue and thus the opposition is no premade, they might be more inclined to pay attention and keep trying instead of giving up up and whinging the first time they mindlessly run into a 1v4 and die.

This would fix like 90% of BG players.

Anethum

Cries wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

1. Yep, or remove CP
2. Or a separate queue. Also add private matches for those that want to play together - guild only invites etc premade vs pug is FAR less of a problem than CP only

I feel like if they made a separate queue for both CP and non-CP and for non-premades and premades it would be really hard to find a match.

It is and soon will be much worse to find a match with current system.
And there will be definitely x-times more players if separate bgs to premades/randoms and maybe cp/non-cp, because ppl will return bgs.
Instead of leaving them because of nowadays unfair nonsence system.
Part of players, who have well teamed premade, disbands their groups when see that there are no one as premade also.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_Wrobel
But, and this is a problem, there are others, who want a simple win instead of competition. I don't respect such ***, but it's no matter how to call or think about them, until system encourage them in their behaviour

callen4492

Cries wrote: »

2) Make pre-mades have a limit to 2 people or 3 people, if you have more you cannot queue

I don't understand all the hate on pre-mades. Do none of y'all ever play with friends? I totally understand the desire for a queue in which pre-made teams aren't allowed, but to dis-allow it altogether would *** of a lot of people. I think there should definitely be two different queues.

Thogard

callen4492 wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

2) Make pre-mades have a limit to 2 people or 3 people, if you have more you cannot queue

I don't understand all the hate on pre-mades. Do none of y'all ever play with friends? I totally understand the desire for a queue in which pre-made teams aren't allowed, but to dis-allow it altogether would *** of a lot of people. I think there should definitely be two different queues.

There is a strong correlation between players who throw salt on message boards and players who can’t seem to find three friends to make a group.

Anethum

callen4492 wrote: »

Cries wrote: »

2) Make pre-mades have a limit to 2 people or 3 people, if you have more you cannot queue

I don't understand all the hate on pre-mades. Do none of y'all ever play with friends? I totally understand the desire for a queue in which pre-made teams aren't allowed, but to dis-allow it altogether would *** of a lot of people. I think there should definitely be two different queues.

Its not the hate on premades, its hate on system, which doesn't allow to fight vs premades when u premade, or vs randoms when u random.
With a right queye system, randoms should be able to add to some group of 2-3 premades to fight vs full premades. Like a system in cyrodiil - non-vet player can enter veteran campagn if he want, but veteran cannot come non-vet.

gootdude

You need to have solo only queue that only puts people in the BG if they queued alone, PERIOD.

The premade queue should only match people in 2,3,4 man groups, and if they are imbalanced and take forever to find matches, that is their problem for wanting to premade queue.

Also, I would suggest making SOLO only queue a part of the core game, and require Morrowind for PREMADE queue, where you could then introduce ladders and better rewards.