In dual wielding does two nirnhoned weapon stacks?

kharl08

Enlighten me...

Akinos

They stack, but you won't get the full damage bonus of the offhand nirn weapon. Not sure if it's worth using 2 nirn weapons, I don't know anybody that does.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

If by stacks you mean you get more weapon damage, sure. But only an extra 12. That is right, only twelve. You are so much better off using infused on your off hand, as it cuts the main hands enchant cool down in half as well. But really do not us nirn on your off hand.

kharl08

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

If by stacks you mean you get more weapon damage, sure. But only an extra 12. That is right, only twelve. You are so much better off using infused on your off hand, as it cuts the main hands enchant cool down in half as well. But really do not us nirn on your off hand.

wow you only get twelve instead of 200 more extra damage.. What if you gold out your off hand weapon does the extra 200 damage applies too?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

kharl08 wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

If by stacks you mean you get more weapon damage, sure. But only an extra 12. That is right, only twelve. You are so much better off using infused on your off hand, as it cuts the main hands enchant cool down in half as well. But really do not us nirn on your off hand.

wow you only get twelve instead of 200 more extra damage.. What if you gold out your off hand weapon does the extra 200 damage applies too?

No. A gold off hand nirn weapon will only give you 12 more weapon damage over a gils infused or sharpened or any other trait weapon. Even charged would be better.

Biro123

Its because the 2nd weapon doesnt add its full base weapon damage, anly a portion of it. So Nirnhoned only adds a portion of that portion.

Thogard

Ummm I don’t think infused offhand applies to the mainhand’s enchant as well. It’s been a while since I’ve tested that, so if I’m wrong please let me know.

Brutusmax1mus

Infused on offhand impacts cooldown on main hand?? REALLY?? that's too good to be true isn't it?

Subversus

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Infused on offhand impacts cooldown on main hand?? REALLY?? that's too good to be true isn't it?

It's true people in pve use that *** to death

kaithuzar

Sounds like a bug.

But what about the duel wield passive that increases off hand damage? Will that increase nirnhoned or anything relevant?

Integral1900

Dual wield applies whichever weapon hits first, the second is then at a reduced effect. Next time you attack watch how the charecter moves, you will notice that sometimes they hit with the right hand first and some times it’s the left. If your looking for both to proc effects it’s obviously even worse

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

kaithuzar wrote: »

Sounds like a bug.

But what about the duel wield passive that increases off hand damage? Will that increase nirnhoned or anything relevant?

If you are talking about this-
Dual Wield Expert II: (WHILE DUAL WIELDING) Increases Weapon Damage by 6% of off-hand weapon's damage, then that 6% is only 12 weapons with nirn.

See with normal dual wield, you get full weapon damage from your main hand, which is 1335 without nirn or 1535 with nirn. You get another 236 weapon Damage from your off hand at gold 160cp. With the above passive, you get another 80 weapon damage from the off hand. Of your off hand is nirn, you get 6% of 1535, or 92. So you get 12 more weapon damage.

Unless you are talking about the twin blade and blunt passive, which does not matter which hand you have what weapon in.

Vapirko

A gold, nirnhoned sword in offhand will only add about 50 wpn damage. It’s awful. You can run sharp/infused/precise on the offhand depending what you’re doing. I personally like sharp in my off hand. If you’re able to LA weave consistently and lag doesn’t make you pause on every LA then I suppose infused would make sense.

DosPanchos

From what I understand infused in the off hand applies to both weapons; it's been that way for a while. Any end in sight? Who knows...

Savos_Saren

If I'm going for a glass cannon setup on my mDK- I shoot for a Ninrhoned main hand sword and a Sharpened off hand sword

xxsnatchfacexx

What about damage through a crystal frag? Wouldn’t the direct damage be multiplied with both swords being nirnhoned?
@Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

JinxxND

Never worth to go double nirnhoned, go precise/sharpened/infused/defending even charged with certain enchants will be better. Depends on your build on what offhand is best for you and if you are back barring dw or not. Also infused unless they changed it does effect the main hand enchant as well in terms of cooldown at least which makes is a solid choice even after the dw nerfs to enchants esp with the stam recovery if you don't want poisons on that bar

ryh

JinxxND wrote: »

Never worth to go double nirnhoned, go precise/sharpened/infused/defending even charged with certain enchants will be better. Depends on your build on what offhand is best for you and if you are back barring dw or not. Also infused unless they changed it does effect the main hand enchant as well in terms of cooldown at least which makes is a solid choice even after the dw nerfs to enchants esp with the stam recovery if you don't want poisons on that bar

Infused offhand doesn’t affect mainhand in any way - was fixed few patches ago.

Xvorg

JinxxND wrote: »

Never worth to go double nirnhoned, go precise/sharpened/infused/defending even charged with certain enchants will be better. Depends on your build on what offhand is best for you and if you are back barring dw or not. Also infused unless they changed it does effect the main hand enchant as well in terms of cooldown at least which makes is a solid choice even after the dw nerfs to enchants esp with the stam recovery if you don't want poisons on that bar

Even powered is much better fo extra healing

xxsnatchfacexx

I’ve always have been informed of the same as stated @JinxxND ... recently I’ve seen some pvp utubers suggest the double nirn on dual wield stam builds because of the direct damage and I’ve tested it. Dual nirn produced more damage than nirn+sharpened. So my theory was that magika direct damage would also. I haven’t tested it yet. I’m out of transmutes. Any of you pts pc guys want to test? I believe you have tracker add on apps that can give the real answer. I’m solely console. Thank you for the quick response my friends.

Iskiab

Savos_Saren wrote: »

If I'm going for a glass cannon setup on my mDK- I shoot for a Ninrhoned main hand sword and a Sharpened off hand sword

Glass canon? You must not be using BRP DW. Blade cloak also procs a weapon damage enchant from the aoe damage if you back bar it.

Grimlok_S

I've never seen an MagDK attempt a BRP DW backbar.. Damage DW front bar, sure. I'll be impressed when I do.

Blade cloak is a lot of stam drain for mag toons.

Iskiab

Grimlok_S wrote: »

I've never seen an MagDK attempt a BRP DW backbar.. Damage DW front bar, sure. I'll be impressed when I do.

Blade cloak is a lot of stam drain for mag toons.

Not on a DK because of the earthen heart passive. I used jorvlund and BRP DW. The issue was moreso mag sustain.

I was trying to extend the duration of all the great DK buffs, but it wasn’t that great. Tankiness was not an issue.

I was thinking of trying daring Corsair on one bar, BRP DW on the back with jorvlund but my DK has been shelved so I haven’t been able to test it.

OG_Kaveman

xxsnatchfacexx wrote: »

I’ve always have been informed of the same as stated @JinxxND ... recently I’ve seen some pvp utubers suggest the double nirn on dual wield stam builds because of the direct damage and I’ve tested it. Dual nirn produced more damage than nirn+sharpened. So my theory was that magika direct damage would also. I haven’t tested it yet. I’m out of transmutes. Any of you pts pc guys want to test? I believe you have tracker add on apps that can give the real answer. I’m solely console. Thank you for the quick response my friends.

gonna need a source for that, there is no way that nirn off hand would beat sharpened off hand on mobs that are not fully penned anyways, nor would nirn off hand beat a precise off hand in everything else, it just cant.

JinxxND

Never go double nirn, doesn't make sense

Davadin

JinxxND wrote: »

Never go double nirn, doesn't make sense

You went full nirn man, never go full nirn.