Khajiit talk in Chat, feelings on the matter?

Betsararie

I don't really care

No issue with it.... obviously fits with the theme of the game

jssriot

I don't really care

This falls under "If this bothers you, you should probably not play Elder Scroll games, pal."

Katahdin

I don't do it but I don't mind

I sometimes stop and read for a minute or two then I move on.

It doesnt bother me and I respect their taking the game to that level if that is what makes them happy

DarcyMardin

It annoys me

My gut response to the question was a vague feeling of “it annoys me.” No idea why. It’s not a strong reaction; I don’t really care very much.

Actually, it strikes me now that I find it totally fine in game, but kinda weird in the forums. I understand role playing in game, but here we’re talking *about* the game, not playing it.

Still, I guess I have to admire someone who never breaks character. I sure couldn’t do it.

SydneyGrey

I don't really care

So the poll results are overwhelmingly: "Meh, who cares." LOL!
It's an Elder Scrolls game. People who are bothered by this are potentially the same type of people who love to whine about there being elves in the game. In an Elder Scrolls game.

An Elder Scrolls game.

Denyiir

It makes me uncomfortable

I usually stop reading as soon as I notice it. I just can't ignore/forget the fact that it is some grown person sitting behind computer typing it...

Demycilian

It's kinda cool to see

As AD citizens go the Khajiit eccentricities are on the tame side of things. Now, the Bosmer...

theslynx

I don't really care

I don't care if people do it. It's better than the fake Renaissance speech some people used to employ in other games.

I've always been a bit bothered by the use of 'this one' as a kind of makeshift pronoun, though, in the sense that it strikes me as cumbersome and unrealistic.

There are languages that don't have unique personal pronouns (like some Japanese terms that function as 'I' but also have other meanings that suggest status). But 'this one' basically is just the meaning of 'I,' and is also not unique: it's convoluted, adds no status clues and allows potential misinterpretations. You would anticipate that in this case an actual pronoun with that meaning would develop, because most languages strive for efficiency to some degree. Or you'd expect that the 'I' would be replaced by some kind of status marker, especially in a Khajiit culture obsessed with using them in naming conventions.

But who knows, I'm not a linguist.

CardboardedBox

Don't do it, but it's cool to see.

I don't really mind seeing it. It adds something to the game. Sometimes people being EXTREMELY serious with their roleplaying and not accepting anything that's not roleplaying, gets horribly annoying.

But khajiit stuff can be pretty funny when done right. Santie is pretty much proof. There are clearly more people who enjoy her shenanigans than those who don't.

Silver_Strider

Don't do it, but it's cool to see.

Denyiir wrote: »

I usually stop reading as soon as I notice it. I just can't ignore/forget the fact that it is some grown person sitting behind computer typing it...

And yet, that's exactly what the developers did when writing the lines for Khajiit NPCs.

Soooooooo....

leshpar

This one does this all the time

I am a roleplayer, so on khajiit characters, I do it. My main is an argonian though.

Mettaricana

It annoys me

Rather than say need heals i get this one needs healing its like son of a we in vet falkreath knock your guar excrement off

Denyiir

It makes me uncomfortable

Silver_Strider wrote: »

Denyiir wrote: »

I usually stop reading as soon as I notice it. I just can't ignore/forget the fact that it is some grown person sitting behind computer typing it...

And yet, that's exactly what the developers did when writing the lines for Khajiit NPCs.

Soooooooo....

When I interact with NPC I also know it's not a real person talking to me in real time, so it's different. Anyway I can't help it, even though I have nothing against it, and I don't disapprove it, it just makes me feel weird and that's it

newtinmpls

It's kinda cool to see

theslynx wrote: »

There are languages that don't have unique personal pronouns (like some Japanese terms that function as 'I' but also have other meanings that suggest status). But 'this one' basically is just the meaning of 'I,' and is also not unique: it's convoluted, adds no status clues and allows potential misinterpretations. You would anticipate that in this case an actual pronoun with that meaning would develop, because most languages strive for efficiency to some degree. Or you'd expect that the 'I' would be replaced by some kind of status marker, especially in a Khajiit culture obsessed with using them in naming conventions.

But who knows, I'm not a linguist.

I like hearing your thoughts on the matter.

I was (briefly and painfully) studying Gaelic (I think - it was a tough time) and one of the things that was "different" about how the language worked was that if you looked at the literal translation for "I am [name]" it was closer to "[name] is upon me" - it was a subtle distinction between use of a name as:

"who I am"

as opposed to "the label that I am called"

So when I hear the Khajiit turns of phrase, I find myself wondering about the mindset that would create them, and what subtle meanings could be there.

altemriel

This one does this all the time

newtinmpls wrote: »

theslynx wrote: »

There are languages that don't have unique personal pronouns (like some Japanese terms that function as 'I' but also have other meanings that suggest status). But 'this one' basically is just the meaning of 'I,' and is also not unique: it's convoluted, adds no status clues and allows potential misinterpretations. You would anticipate that in this case an actual pronoun with that meaning would develop, because most languages strive for efficiency to some degree. Or you'd expect that the 'I' would be replaced by some kind of status marker, especially in a Khajiit culture obsessed with using them in naming conventions.

But who knows, I'm not a linguist.

I like hearing your thoughts on the matter.

I was (briefly and painfully) studying Gaelic (I think - it was a tough time) and one of the things that was "different" about how the language worked was that if you looked at the literal translation for "I am [name]" it was closer to "[name] is upon me" - it was a subtle distinction between use of a name as:

"who I am"

as opposed to "the label that I am called"

So when I hear the Khajiit turns of phrase, I find myself wondering about the mindset that would create them, and what subtle meanings could be there.

interesting. I think, that maybe this khajiit form of "I" expression is meant to be some kind of literal "translation" from the khajiiti language into "human" language, maybe that was the original idea behind this. but who knows, only the dev who created this

Marabornwingrion

It annoys me

Weirdos...

Nemesis7884

Don't do it, but it's cool to see.

i would make the choices more distinct less gradual so you can more easily differentiate betweens that like it, don't like it, don't care

Cloudless

This one does this all the time

This one thinks those who are annoyed by such a minor thing should just stop and taste the sugar a bit more often.

Nephimana

It's kinda cool to see

I don't mind it and I like it, even if they're in town over mic.
I just enjoy people having fun and getting into the game.

I'd much rather see and hear this than the toxic salt I always see in PvP from people on the same team, or in Craglorn chat arguing about anything from builds to politics.

Vrienda

It makes me uncomfortable

It is... disquieting to see slaves out of their pens. Hearing them speak without permission is just plain uncomfortable.

RupzSkooma

It makes me uncomfortable

May you walk on warm sands.

Stania

It's cringy when people do it outside RP ingame, otherwise, meh. If I ever do a khajiit character (very unlikely) I'll imagine that he/she talks in first person.

Jpk0012

I don't really care

newtinmpls wrote: »

theslynx wrote: »

There are languages that don't have unique personal pronouns (like some Japanese terms that function as 'I' but also have other meanings that suggest status). But 'this one' basically is just the meaning of 'I,' and is also not unique: it's convoluted, adds no status clues and allows potential misinterpretations. You would anticipate that in this case an actual pronoun with that meaning would develop, because most languages strive for efficiency to some degree. Or you'd expect that the 'I' would be replaced by some kind of status marker, especially in a Khajiit culture obsessed with using them in naming conventions.

But who knows, I'm not a linguist.

I like hearing your thoughts on the matter.

I was (briefly and painfully) studying Gaelic (I think - it was a tough time) and one of the things that was "different" about how the language worked was that if you looked at the literal translation for "I am [name]" it was closer to "[name] is upon me" - it was a subtle distinction between use of a name as:

"who I am"

as opposed to "the label that I am called"

So when I hear the Khajiit turns of phrase, I find myself wondering about the mindset that would create them, and what subtle meanings could be there.

I read awhile back that Khajiit are taught to think that they are all one people. So, when a Khajiit says "this one" its to single them out as an individual. " I"could be considered rude and/or and could be thought as putting yourself above the group, which is definitely not what a proper Khajiit would do.

I believe the Khajiit see themselves not as individuals but as a piece of something greater - the word "I" just doesn't make sense to them. They would then be saying they are just as important as the entire group.

LadyAstrum

I don't really care

Verbal_Earthworm wrote: »

leave khajiit-roleplay out of zone chat and off the forums.

it only ever comes across as attention-seeking cringe-worthy cliche.

Play a game with Khajiit, then tolerate Khajiit. It is simple, yes?

Meld777

This one does this all the time

This one is a Khajiit trapped in an Altmer's body because it is impossible for this one to sustain great DPS otherwise.

Balamoor

Other

Not so much in game...but I find it just pathetic (not really annoying) when someone can't break RP even on the forums.

You certainly can't have an intelligent conversation with anyone that has an incessant pathology to remain in their fantasy land.

/shrug.

Minyassa

Don't do it, but it's cool to see.

It's cute. I think there's no such thing as too much encouragement to role-play. I'm glad that so many people can relax and enjoy the spirit of the game.

lzzy

I don't really care

Never gave it a single thought until this thread.

Maybe if someone spoke like that all the time over voip? That'd be pretty awful.