Shimmering Shieldbreaker?

Solariken

I'm wondering if anyone knows if Shieldbreaker works versus Shimmering Shield?

I would gladly test myself but I deconstructed my Shieldbreaker long ago after the shield duration nerf. But the Warden immunity to ranged builds needs some vigilante justice.

Derra

it does.

SodanTok

raasdal wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

it does.

Wait a minute. Really?

I have not played Warden myself yet, but assumed that skill was classified as a buff, like Wings, and not an actual shield.

Does this mean that all other Sets and Skills that are triggered/triggering on Shields, will work with Shimmering Shield? For example, will it proc Infernal Guardian? Will it proc the 5pc. condition on Permafrost? (http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Permafrost+Set).

Cant speak about all the interactions, but shimmering is indeed a shield. It protects you for X amount of damage with 3 instances. It can be boosted by CP too.

All absorbs things are shield.

Lord-Otto

Oh, dear.
Put that crab away and teabag those Noobdens twice as hard instead.

raasdal

Derra wrote: »

it does.

Wait a minute. Really?

I have not played Warden myself yet, but assumed that skill was classified as a buff, like Wings, and not an actual shield.

Does this mean that all other Sets and Skills that are triggered/triggering on Shields, will work with Shimmering Shield? For example, will it proc Infernal Guardian? Will it proc the 5pc. condition on Permafrost? (http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Permafrost+Set).

ToRelax

raasdal wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

it does.

Wait a minute. Really?

I have not played Warden myself yet, but assumed that skill was classified as a buff, like Wings, and not an actual shield.

Does this mean that all other Sets and Skills that are triggered/triggering on Shields, will work with Shimmering Shield? For example, will it proc Infernal Guardian? Will it proc the 5pc. condition on Permafrost? (http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Permafrost+Set).

@raasdal
Infernal Guardian works with Crystallized Shield, Absorb Magic and Brawler. Couldn't test Permafrost yet because it's not on templates, but I guess it will work.

Thogard

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Lexxypwns

Thogard wrote: »

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Unless the shieldbreaker proc is literally going to kill you I’d always trade the incoming damage for major heroism

Solariken

Thogard wrote: »

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Yeah @Thogard that's true but that also leaves you open to eat the whole combo, which is the whole point. XD

This isn't for you specifically FYI - just seems like many games lately are against something like 5 stam wardens and 3 magDk's. It gets old having so many untargetable opponents.

Tbh I think Shimmering (and morphs) are fine skills I just think it's dumb that they are basically free and can be recast indefinitely. I hope they drop the magicka returns and buff the frost projectile morph - then the skills would be balanced.

dodgehopper_ESO

Solariken wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Yeah @Thogard that's true but that also leaves you open to eat the whole combo, which is the whole point. XD

This isn't for you specifically FYI - just seems like many games lately are against something like 5 stam wardens and 3 magDk's. It gets old having so many untargetable opponents.

Tbh I think Shimmering (and morphs) are fine skills I just think it's dumb that they are basically free and can be recast indefinitely. I hope they drop the magicka returns and buff the frost projectile morph - then the skills would be balanced.

I keep saying they should change the way these kinds of reflect things work. It should be a lot more like Evasion in the sense its long duration with chance to reflect, making it more defensive but less reliable as a tool. It still would offer some threat to attackers as well.

Waffennacht

Solariken wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Yeah @Thogard that's true but that also leaves you open to eat the whole combo, which is the whole point. XD

This isn't for you specifically FYI - just seems like many games lately are against something like 5 stam wardens and 3 magDk's. It gets old having so many untargetable opponents.

Tbh I think Shimmering (and morphs) are fine skills I just think it's dumb that they are basically free and can be recast indefinitely. I hope they drop the magicka returns and buff the frost projectile morph - then the skills would be balanced.

That'd be awesome actually

Vaoh

Shieldbreker procs against *any* Damage Shield-like skill.

Typical damage damage shields like Annulment, Conjured Ward, Iceheart’s proc all fall under this category, but so does Defensive Posture, Crystallized Shield, etc

Solariken

Vaoh wrote: »

Shieldbreker procs against *any* Damage Shield-like skill.

Typical damage damage shields like Annulment, Conjured Ward, Iceheart’s proc all fall under this category, but so does Defensive Posture, Crystallized Shield, etc

Haha Defensive Posture!? Man that would be a death sentence against a bow Shieldbreaker. That's a long buff and no way to shake it.

Someone hold my beer, I'm about to get Shieldbreaker nerfed.

Domander

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Yeah it works against shimmering shield, but all I have to do is just not recast shimmering shield... it’s mot like my stamden is a mag user in light armor.

Yeah @Thogard that's true but that also leaves you open to eat the whole combo, which is the whole point. XD

This isn't for you specifically FYI - just seems like many games lately are against something like 5 stam wardens and 3 magDk's. It gets old having so many untargetable opponents.

Tbh I think Shimmering (and morphs) are fine skills I just think it's dumb that they are basically free and can be recast indefinitely. I hope they drop the magicka returns and buff the frost projectile morph - then the skills would be balanced.

I keep saying they should change the way these kinds of reflect things work. It should be a lot more like Evasion in the sense its long duration with chance to reflect, making it more defensive but less reliable as a tool. It still would offer some threat to attackers as well.

And leave it up to rng? Ugh, no thanks.

If you are totally ranged then be prepared to be countered by some things. It's the flip side of being totally melee.


Good to know that it works.

Vaoh

Solariken wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Shieldbreker procs against *any* Damage Shield-like skill.

Typical damage damage shields like Annulment, Conjured Ward, Iceheart’s proc all fall under this category, but so does Defensive Posture, Crystallized Shield, etc

Haha Defensive Posture!? Man that would be a death sentence against a bow Shieldbreaker. That's a long buff and no way to shake it.

Someone hold my beer, I'm about to get Shieldbreaker nerfed.

It works. Last I had Defensive Posture slotted a few people used Shieldbreaker against me and it was highly annoying lol. Any sort of damage shield procs it.

Notice the tiny damage shield appearance over your health in the base game UI when you cast Defensive Posture? That’s what procs the set.

SodanTok

Vaoh wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

Vaoh wrote: »

Shieldbreker procs against *any* Damage Shield-like skill.

Typical damage damage shields like Annulment, Conjured Ward, Iceheart’s proc all fall under this category, but so does Defensive Posture, Crystallized Shield, etc

Haha Defensive Posture!? Man that would be a death sentence against a bow Shieldbreaker. That's a long buff and no way to shake it.

Someone hold my beer, I'm about to get Shieldbreaker nerfed.

It works. Last I had Defensive Posture slotted a few people used Shieldbreaker against me and it was highly annoying lol. Any sort of damage shield procs it.

Notice the tiny damage shield appearance over your health in the base game UI when you cast Defensive Posture? That’s what procs the set.

Hm that is weird. Reflect should not act like this, only absorb (since all shields are basically absorb).