vMA token system- will we have to wait until 2024 to get it?

PlautisCarvain

How many times it has been asked, ZOS? When will you finally notice that we want it due to the fact that you çant create an adequate loot table in vMA?

SodanTok

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

supaskrub

One word!

Transmutation

SirCritical

Just asking: with the trait-change system, why do you need it so badly? Really curious. I'm sure you can complete it, you're just disappointed with rng. If I'm wrong, and you haven't completed it yet, then - believe me - you can do it, it's just a matter of time.

PlautisCarvain

SodanTok wrote: »

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

I would need to get that lightning staff I want in vMA first, no? Been doing vMA 20 times and still don't have any.

getemshauna

PlautisCarvain wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

I would need to get that lightning staff I want in vMA first, no? Been doing vMA 20 times and still don't have any.

20 times... wow ^^

Katahdin

20 times? LOL.
No token system is going to guarantee you the weapon you want in 20 runs or less.

Talk to the people that did it 500 times and still didnt get the weapon they wanted in the trait they wanted.
At least now if/when you get a lightening staff or w/e weapon you want, regardless of the trait, you can change it.

GrumpyDuckling

VMA just isn't fun after the 30th time (although I can't say I have had any fun at all since I first started). I agree with OP. A token system would be great. Even if all the weapon traits were training - that's fine. What use do I have for seven bows when I've never had a destro?

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO

we have transmutation now...so is fixed...get a *** trait and then retrait it...now get over it and stop complaining.

PlautisCarvain

xenowarrior92eb17_ESO wrote: »

we have transmutation now...so is fixed...get a *** trait and then retrait it...now get over it and stop complaining.

lol ESO community is... well

Ch4mpTW

PlautisCarvain wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

I would need to get that lightning staff I want in vMA first, no? Been doing vMA 20 times and still don't have any.

Hundreds of runs here, and still not a single: Sharpened lightning staff (I had to transmute for mine), sharpened inferno staff, or precise inferno staff. I’ve given up on doing Veteran Maelstrom Arena. It isn’t worth the frustration and stress. It truly isn’t. Especially now that the transmutation feature was added. Just simply transmute the weapons in bad traits, or weapons which you have duplicates of to those that you need. Problem solved.

Why spend 45mins. or longer dealing with VMA, and the bs that comes along with it — when you can spend that time in PvP getting both AP and Transmutation Crystals? I’d rather cheese in Cyrodiil through: Ganking, zerging, etc. than deal with the crap in VMA personally. Plus, I have already acquired tons upon tons of VMA weapons. Why not go on ahead and just transmute what I don’t need? Do you understand the logic I’m trying to get across to you?

Beardimus

He already gets that Champ..hes saying the RNG to even get the item he wants in a bad trait is too poor. ..

LadyLethalla

A friend of mine has said that when he's running VMA on his mag sorc, he swaps to a stam gear set before opening the final chest, and that seems to give a greater probability of getting a staff. Worth a try, perhaps?

Ch4mpTW

Beardimus wrote: »

He already gets that Champ..hes saying the RNG to even get the item he wants in a bad trait is too poor. ..

Ah, I see. In that regards, I do definitely agree with him. In my opinion, things like: VDSA, VMA, etc. should’ve been released with a token system feature upon launch. That way, it would provide a means to an end. And pretty much bypass the unnecessary grind and hardships encountered due to RNG.

PlautisCarvain

LadyLethalla wrote: »

A friend of mine has said that when he's running VMA on his mag sorc, he swaps to a stam gear set before opening the final chest, and that seems to give a greater probability of getting a staff. Worth a try, perhaps?

Lol I would not even be surprised if it works ahahahah

MaxwellC

I doubt this game would be around in 2024 but rather they may make a new game with the ability to transfer over your current characters to it as new technology is out which allows for better performance.

PlautisCarvain

MaxwellC wrote: »

I doubt this game would be around in 2024 but rather they may make a new game with the ability to transfer over your current characters to it as new technology is out which allows for better performance.

It was sarcastic xD

WatchYourSixx

Can confirm, wearing Magicka gear gives you a higher chance to get stamina based gear. I ran over 50 runs with not a single staff dropping, nothing but two hand, s&sh, dual wield, or bow and one resto on the very first run. Then I finally decided to run on Stam, got 3 frost staves, 2 resto, 3 infernos. Still no lightning yet, but I'm definitely sticking to running Stam characters for a staff.

Woeler

PlautisCarvain wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

I would need to get that lightning staff I want in vMA first, no? Been doing vMA 20 times and still don't have any.

20 times... oh boy

Insandros

PlautisCarvain wrote: »

How many times it has been asked, ZOS? When will you finally notice that we want it due to the fact that you çant create an adequate loot table in vMA?

Stop whining seriously, you got Xmuting now, how many people back then wuld had dreamed of xmuting crystals when they ran vMA, i was lucky to get miost stuff in trait i wanted in less than 75 runs, but lots went over hundreds, so instead of crying out loud for token system, thanks Zos for Xmuting crystals.

Insandros

PlautisCarvain wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

With transmutation. Not gonna happen now.

I would need to get that lightning staff I want in vMA first, no? Been doing vMA 20 times and still don't have any.

20 runs? not to disapoint you man, but don't expect to be lucky with that low amount, out of exactly 100 runs until i got bored to death from that palce and stoped, i got 4 lightning staves,so take patience for lightning staves.

DieAlteHexe

MaxwellC wrote: »

I doubt this game would be around in 2024 but rather they may make a new game with the ability to transfer over your current characters to it as new technology is out which allows for better performance.

Well, UO has been around since 1997 so you never know...EQ not much later (1999).

KingYogi415

I farmed VMA around 50 times during the double drop week, and I still don’t have the lighting staff.

At least I could finally retrait my flame staff though.,.

Ladislao

Wow.

A lot of people asked for vMA token system.
ZOS didn't implement it.
Now everyone says that it is not needed.

Did ZOS win again with their solution?

SoLooney

trans crystals are the best youre gonna get, dont be lazy and get a dang staff, rng sucks but we all deal with it

Meld777

Katahdin wrote: »

Talk to the people that did it 500 times and still didnt get the weapon they wanted in the trait they wanted.
At least now if/when you get a lightening staff or w/e weapon you want, regardless of the trait, you can change it.

624 times for my Sharpened Inferno.

You ran vMA 20 times? Maybe you got your flawless by now, but you're nowhere close to fully having mastered the arena. I'm sure there's still room for improvement for both said content and your personal skill. And as long you're getting better doing it, I don't see how it's too bad.

Also, back in the day when people were discussing a token system, the "normal" amount of vMA runs for a weapon you want was considered 50. 2.5 times as many as you have done. And that was really the lower end of the discussion (upper end was somewhere around 500). That's just an info, not my personal opinion. My opinion is, sell all weapons for 1 Gold at a vendor. BiS weapons should not be acquired from solo content in an MMO.

ChuckyPayne

Maybe with transmute system 2.0.

That would be awesome:
Change staff type (fire -> frost), 1 handed type (axe -> sword), change armor type (light - > heavy)

TheYKcid

I did my first vMA run about 2 weeks before CWC went live, and since then have been farming it very casually (0-2 times weekly). It hasn't even felt like a chore at this pace (and mind you, I do it on mDK which makes it far from a pushover), yet I already have multiples of every weapon—more than I'd ever need, thanks to transmutation.

Considering some of these are among the best weapons in the game, I honestly feel the experience has been too easy on me. Heck, I've gone through tougher grinds for normal dungeon gear in the past.

No more nerfs to vMA RNG please. I don't want a repeat of the nAS 2H case where anyone can attain BiS with minimal effort.