Hey ZoS: No one wants to play your #$%& Capture the Relic, Crazy King, etc.

Savos_Saren

Just give us Battlegrounds with Death Match. Players constantly ignore the goal and just fight each other. Stop with the "new ideas" already. FFS.

Chelo

Been saying this since Morrowind came. Just give us the option to select game mode, I don’t care about objectives, just want to do real PvP in DeathMatch...

Unfadingsilence

.......I like playing them

SirAxen

I actually kind of like objective based PVP personally. Not saying I don't enjoy DeathMatch, but it's fun to mix it up.

HatchetHaro

I actually really enjoy both Capture the Relic and Crazy King, because it gives groups with meh players a chance to win when paired up against premades.

Also, sneaking in to grab the relic when an enemy team is occupied and subsequently being chased down with spells flying at me is quite an exhilarating experience.

Betsararie

Unfadingsilence wrote: »

.......I like playing them

Most other people don't. We'd rather play deathmatch.

Savos_Saren

I've been running BGs all day and I can 100% verify that a whole lot of people ignore the basic elements of Capture the Relic and Crazy King. You have premade groups that go in and slaughter PUGs to work on their group dynamic.

I actually don't mind Domination, though.

Linaleah

I honestly prefer the objective play, personaly. but.... dye achievement is based on killing blows. 1k killing blows. not even assists, like kill 20 whatevers in Cyrodill - killing blows. and its the only bright red outside of crown only dye stamps. so.... there you have it.

Savos_Saren

Linaleah wrote: »

I honestly prefer the objective play, personaly. but.... dye achievement is based on killing blows. 1k killing blows. not even assists, like kill 20 whatevers in Cyrodill - killing blows. and its the only bright red outside of crown only dye stamps. so.... there you have it.

It's not based on killing blows. It's 1000 total kills. Though, it seems a little buggy. Trust me: if it were 1000k killing blows- an mDK would never get it. (I actually have the Flame Drake Red- it's a pretty strong dye... unlike some that aren't even close to the actual color they're supposed to be.) Good luck at getting your dye!

Korah_Eaglecry

Im willing to bet their Objective based PvP would fare better if there was something more simple like Death Match at the core of it. If players were really seeking Objective based PvP theyd simply jump into Cyrodiil.

Savos_Saren

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Im willing to bet their Objective based PvP would fare better if there was something more simple like Death Match at the core of it. If players were really seeking Objective based PvP theyd simply jump into Cyrodiil.

Correct. Though, I think some people want smaller scale PVP- since they're tired of getting zerged. Which is fine. But, ZoS needs to give users a choice of which BG they want to do. I'm getting frustrated with hopping into a Capture the Relic or Chaos Ball BG only to see people ignore the objective and fight each other. Even worse is if you have a random PUG who stays at the top of the safe zone- just because they need to participate in 5 BGs.

Betsararie

Korah_Eaglecry wrote: »

Im willing to bet their Objective based PvP would fare better if there was something more simple like Death Match at the core of it. If players were really seeking Objective based PvP theyd simply jump into Cyrodiil.

I will preface this by stating that I hate BGs. There may be nothing I hate more in ESO than BGs, and everything that it encompasses. If trash were a game mode... it would be BGs.

Now the only upside that BGs offers over Cyrodiil is quick access to fights. In BGs you can spawn in and be in a fight in a matter of seconds. Contrast that to Cyrodiil, where at certain times it can take a very long time to get to a fight.

However, the issue with BGs is that it actually discourages fights. This flies in the face of its only upside, which is quick access to fights.

All the terrible and stupid game modes such as crazy king and domination, and the others are all most optimally played by avoiding fights. This is one of the main problems with it.

So by forcing the objective game types on the players you (ZOS) has eliminated the only single benefit that the game mode would've brought.

This is why implementing "deathmatch only" is imperative, but knowing ZOS that won't happen and instead they will just keep adding more objective game types, therefore making the appearance of deathmatch even less frequent.

This is why a lot of people such as myself and others don't take anything involving BGs seriously.

Nighn_9

make a poll

Linaleah

jaburns wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

I honestly prefer the objective play, personaly. but.... dye achievement is based on killing blows. 1k killing blows. not even assists, like kill 20 whatevers in Cyrodill - killing blows. and its the only bright red outside of crown only dye stamps. so.... there you have it.

It's not based on killing blows. It's 1000 total kills. Though, it seems a little buggy. Trust me: if it were 1000k killing blows- an mDK would never get it. (I actually have the Flame Drake Red- it's a pretty strong dye... unlike some that aren't even close to the actual color they're supposed to be.) Good luck at getting your dye!

well.. that makes me feel a bit better, because... i have the hardest time getting kills in BG. I have been resorting to kill stealing when possible, because that red... is to die for. I'm sorry!

FloppyTouch

When I play BG every match is death match idc about holding any area at all I’m going to kill and be killed. Why? Bc it’s fun! Standing on a flag avoiding the other team is not fun.

WuffyCerulei

Objective matches are a serious pain with permablocking tanks camping them. Capture the relic is legitimately unplayable with said tanks always there to interrupt you. Ya can't kill em. It's stupid.

emilyhyoyeon

yeah imo at most there should be deathmatch, capture the flag/relic, and king of the hill; and players should be able to queue for a particular one or any

Betsararie

emilyhyoyeon wrote: »

yeah imo at most there should be deathmatch, capture the flag/relic, and king of the hill; and players should be able to queue for a particular one or any

What they should really do is make 2 separate ques (possibly this concept is over their head? lol.)

So, what they would do is make 2 ques: 1) deathmatch 2)objective

This is better because this way, everyone is happy. The tanks and etc can go in the objective que, and then the PvPers would go in the deathmatch que. This would also ensure that everyone in the game is focused on whatever objective is the actual objective of the game. You won't get PvPers getting bored of the boring objectives and trying to PvP.

Brutusmax1mus

They're all fun. If you're not good enough to put up a fight, i can see how they wouldn't be though. I normally we head in with 1 other, we work well together, the objectives add a nice strategic element. Death match gets old just like the others do.