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ESO - KodiPvP 'The Cheater' #KODITHECHEATER

  • rfennell_ESO
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    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

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    Lol, so much salt and confirmation bias.

    Well-played, Kodi. B)
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  • Fasold666
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    lol 4:30 - 4:40 in the video...classic situation. eso at its finest :D
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    @RinaldoGandolphi

    I actually think this is a very stimulating conversation, so thank you for your input. But let me offer a rebuttal. Where you are wrong, and where my issue with the accusers of cheating lie, is the assumption that the grievances here are between player vs player. That the judge, jury, and/or plaintiff in the “crime” of alleged cheating here is another player. My entire point is...no it’s not. This legal conflict is completely between the alleged cheater and ZOS. ZOS 100% is the judge, jury, and plaintiff. Guess who has rights to discovery? ZOS. Guess who has exercised that right to discovery in the past, determined players to be guilty, and dealt punitive measures? ZOS. Guess who is completely irrelevant in this picture? @rfennell_ESO and all the people who accuse others of cheating. It is for this reason that the recommended action for those who suspect cheating is to report to zos, not name and shame and throw a fit on the forums

    Comparing law and order between ESO and the American legal system is an exercise in failure because ESO does not operate on a system of common law. It’s more like divine law because in ESO, Zenimax is for all intents and purposes God. When I use terms like ‘burden of proof’, let’s be clear here, I’m not using em in context of the “Court of Terms and Sevices”. We are ALL irrelevent there as far as a verdict is concerned. No, I am using em in regards to the court of public opinion. As in to say, no one gives a *** if you think someone is cheating because your opinions without proof are completely irrelevant. Report it to Zenimax and shut up.

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    Thing about the red scare and McCarthy is nearly everyone he was investigating WAS a communist. Drop the investigations and they infiltrate the media and education systems and we're where we are now.

    Lmao. Dude, thanks for publicly confirming that you are indeed a rabid conspiracy theorist.

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  • VirtualElizabeth
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    I am not defending Kodi when I ask this, but could someone provide the reason's they believe he is cheating. No gut feelings, or sketchy claims - I want to see clear proof like the video above. I mean like that was so obvious that player was cheating that how could his group/guild mates not know LOL.

    If you don't have proof then stop whining and move on with your ESO Lives!
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    Don't know, and don't care, but I've been reading and wondering why it would be difficult to aim the camera at the hands and show programs running bg. Not that the parallels drawn with rule of law or the philosophical talk about the burden of proof isn't entertaining, but isn't this particular accusation easy as pie to discredit? Or is the moral high ground of not replying to unsubstantiated accusations being taken?
  • BroanBeast1215
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    raasdal wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.

    Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop

    Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.

    as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.

    just pointing that out.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    CyrusArya wrote: »
    Thing about the red scare and McCarthy is nearly everyone he was investigating WAS a communist. Drop the investigations and they infiltrate the media and education systems and we're where we are now.

    Lmao. Dude, thanks for publicly confirming that you are indeed a rabid conspiracy theorist.

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    Guess it beats publicly confirming what you are, amirite?

    The thing that all the half witted auto defenders don't get is why would people insinuate or accuse someone for no reason?

    They always regurgitate the same old same old... envy, jealousy, you got 1vxed. It's a lame attempt to deflect the conversation from what it is to what it isn't, it's really not even logical unless you have nothing else.

    The reason people accuse or insinuate is because certain people crashed to desktop showing a certain program running and it was witnessed by a literal boatload of people (a big boat). It's also corroborated by people's experience with said bottom feeder, a known in game harasser and insulter... an person with a pedigree that read's like Charles Manson's. Stuff like "OG member of the guild that used to crash the servers intentionally" isn't exactly "endearing".

    I do it plainly because not only has it been obvious, it's done in plain sight without a care or regard.

    My only "goal" is to eliminate cheating. I've been on that from before CE was revealed, not because I was "in the know", but because I just knew what was up.
  • Drummerx04
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    I hate these conversations. Most of the time the accusations of cheating come from the kinds of players in this video, i.e. the ones that stack nice and tight in an open field to maximize the effectiveness of shalk+dawnbreaker while dealing little to no damage as they futilely attempt to rez their worthless fallen allies.

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    raasdal wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.

    Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop

    Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.

    as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.

    just pointing that out.

    Burden of Proof is not a court thing. It is common sense, and applies to any situation where you accuse someone of something. Otherwise, you will get burnt. Try accusing your wife of cheating on you, without proof, and see how she reacts when you ask her to show proof of not cheating.
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    Fasold666 wrote: »
    lol 4:30 - 4:40 in the video...classic situation. eso at its finest :D

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    raasdal wrote: »
    raasdal wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.

    Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop

    Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.

    as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.

    just pointing that out.

    Burden of Proof is not a court thing. It is common sense, and applies to any situation where you accuse someone of something. Otherwise, you will get burnt. Try accusing your wife of cheating on you, without proof, and see how she reacts when you ask her to show proof of not cheating.

    Proof of not cheating in that scenario isn't possible. So it's not quite the same thing. The request of aiming the camera at the hands rather than the face and showing backgroup apps in this case isn't something that's impossible, in fact it's pretty easy. Kodi made a video in response to the claim of cheating already, so clearly he cares enough to do something in response to the allegation (which he didn't have to respond at all, baseless claims don't require a response). If he cares enough to make the video why not make the accusation seem absolutely ridiculous and go that extra mile?
  • rfennell_ESO
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    raasdal wrote: »
    raasdal wrote: »
    ShadowProc wrote: »
    Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.

    Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop

    Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.

    as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.

    just pointing that out.

    Burden of Proof is not a court thing. It is common sense, and applies to any situation where you accuse someone of something. Otherwise, you will get burnt. Try accusing your wife of cheating on you, without proof, and see how she reacts when you ask her to show proof of not cheating.

    Proof of not cheating in that scenario isn't possible. So it's not quite the same thing. The request of aiming the camera at the hands rather than the face and showing backgroup apps in this case isn't something that's impossible, in fact it's pretty easy. Kodi made a video in response to the claim of cheating already, so clearly he cares enough to do something in response to the allegation (which he didn't have to respond at all, baseless claims don't require a response). If he cares enough to make the video why not make the accusation seem absolutely ridiculous and go that extra mile?

    The answer is quite simple.

    Because he can't, for obvious reasons.
  • Cadbury
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    I miss the glory days of honorable streamers like Fengrush and Deltia.

    This is why gamers look up to LOL streamers
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    I miss the glory days of honorable streamers like Fengrush and Deltia.

    This is why gamers look up to LOL streamers

    Lol you're calling Kodi a dishonorable streamer with no reasoning. I miss the days of honorable thread posters

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    Cadbury wrote: »
    I miss the glory days of honorable streamers like Fengrush and Deltia.

    This is why gamers look up to LOL streamers

    Lol you're calling Kodi a dishonorable streamer with no reasoning. I miss the days of honorable thread posters

    I miss the days of posters understanding sarcasm, so we're both disappointed.

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  • VirtualElizabeth
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    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
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    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
    That's a somewhat flawed summation. Your character stats are determined client side, then relayed to the server in order to cut down on server side calculations. The client is responsible for telling the server everything about what your toon is doing: what your stats are, where on the map you are and so on. CE and programs like it work by editing what your client is telling the server. That is how people were able to use CE to tweak their stats and allow the now infamous speed hacking, levitation, infinite ult gen, ect.

    CE shouldn't work in most MMOs, but that's because most MMOs invest in server side sanity checks and game guard programs that try to detect known cheat programs running on your system.
  • rfennell_ESO
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    All ZOS has to do is get VAC running. They are on steam already.... you can pay your monthly (or whatever) via steam.

    They are partnered with Valve in more ways than just eso... Of course they would have to push the launcher to valve and steam... That's likely why it hasn't happened. Moreso, they would have to rewrite the game engine some so it can't be launched independent of the launcher or steam.

    I 100% guarantee if this happened, you would see a whole lot of trash talkers take a VACation.
  • Alfie2072
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    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

    not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points
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  • VirtualElizabeth
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
    That's a somewhat flawed summation. Your character stats are determined client side, then relayed to the server in order to cut down on server side calculations. The client is responsible for telling the server everything about what your toon is doing: what your stats are, where on the map you are and so on. CE and programs like it work by editing what your client is telling the server. That is how people were able to use CE to tweak their stats and allow the now infamous speed hacking, levitation, infinite ult gen, ect.

    CE shouldn't work in most MMOs, but that's because most MMOs invest in server side sanity checks and game guard programs that try to detect known cheat programs running on your system.

    It could be a flawed summation - I agree because I don't know a lot about how this app runs nor was I aware that there was some sort of client side saving of stats (now I need to start poking around my game files, lol). I looked around and "cheaters" sites though at they seem to say God Mode in ESO is not possible but there ways of walking through objects or flying. I guess apparently speed and teleport hacks are the most common.
    Edited by VirtualElizabeth on December 18, 2017 11:21PM
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.

    Except ESO doesn’t double check a lot of client side transmissions and you can run a program like cheat engine, which allows you to change
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

    not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points

    Nah, he used the mist form+ costume bug
  • VirtualElizabeth
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.

    Except ESO doesn’t double check a lot of client side transmissions and you can run a program like cheat engine, which allows you to change
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

    not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points

    Nah, he used the mist form+ costume bug

    Yeah it allows you to change certain values but I can't see how cheat engine impacts management of resources etc. Even the "cheaters" say it can't be used in that manner.

    Keep in mind, I don't know Kodi, nor have I ever gone to his Twitch stream (I have watched a couple of his build videos though). BUT I don't think anyone has really proven he is cheating because he's not hitting his ulti constantly nor does he seem to move faster than anyone else.
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  • SirAndy
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    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.

    Your "lol" is misplaced and your lack of knowledge of how ESO works is showing.
    AddOns have absolutely nothing to do with this.

    When ESO went live it was completely based on client trust and quickly turned into a bot/cheat paradise.

    ZOS has been doing damage control ever since but you'd be surprised how many things can still be manipulated client side.
    CE (and others like it) has never stopped working with ESO, it is still possible to change many stats locally on your client, if you know how.

    Posts like yours are either born from ignorance or made with the goal of deliberately distracting from the issue.
    In either case, you are wrong....
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    Edited by SirAndy on December 18, 2017 11:31PM
  • VirtualElizabeth
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    SirAndy wrote: »

    Your "lol" is misplaced and your lack of knowledge of how ESO works is showing.
    AddOns have absolutely nothing to do with this.


    Hence my disclaimer that I am not sure how all this works! I used ADD ONs as a way to explain in a simple to use way to differentiate client ESO stuffs from Server Side ESO stuffs. And not to come across as rude, if you would have read my later response, I said I did not know that much about the client side saving of stats.
    SirAndy wrote: »

    When ESO went live it was completely based on client trust and quickly turned into a bot/cheat paradise.

    ZOS has been doing damage control ever since but you'd be surprised how many things can still be manipulated client side.
    CE (and others like it) has never stopped working with ESO, it is still possible to change many stats locally on your client, if you know how.

    Posts like yours are either born from ignorance or made with the goal of deliberately distracting from the issue.
    In either case, you are wrong....
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    Born from ignorance? Maybe... Deliberately distracting...NO. It comes from my annoyance with hearing over and over from way too many PVP players claims like this with very little facts. "Someone out played me so of course they must be cheating." Comments like this are BS and childish and born out of emotion.

    Pics or it didn't happen folks!
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    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

    not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points

    LOL

    You do understand that he was 100% unkillable right?

    Him and bishop of souls would jump into the slaughter fish for fun.

    The only reason I brought him up is because he's gone... and not willingly. But he used to make threads just like this one before his banishing.
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    SirAndy wrote: »

    Your "lol" is misplaced and your lack of knowledge of how ESO works is showing.
    AddOns have absolutely nothing to do with this.


    Hence my disclaimer that I am not sure how all this works! I used ADD ONs as a way to explain in a simple to use way to differentiate client ESO stuffs from Server Side ESO stuffs. And not to come across as rude, if you would have read my later response, I said I did not know that much about the client side saving of stats.
    SirAndy wrote: »

    When ESO went live it was completely based on client trust and quickly turned into a bot/cheat paradise.

    ZOS has been doing damage control ever since but you'd be surprised how many things can still be manipulated client side.
    CE (and others like it) has never stopped working with ESO, it is still possible to change many stats locally on your client, if you know how.

    Posts like yours are either born from ignorance or made with the goal of deliberately distracting from the issue.
    In either case, you are wrong....
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    Born from ignorance? Maybe... Deliberately distracting...NO. It comes from my annoyance with hearing over and over from way too many PVP players claims like this with very little facts. "Someone out played me so of course they must be cheating." Comments like this are BS and childish and born out of emotion.

    Pics or it didn't happen folks!

    Eyewitnesses are evidence in a court of law.

    Enough of them have messaged me to not doubt them.
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.

    Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.

    Except ESO doesn’t double check a lot of client side transmissions and you can run a program like cheat engine, which allows you to change
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    Alfie2072 wrote: »
    I don't think Kodi is a cheater.

    But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
    The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
    Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.

    Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
    https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4

    also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
    look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm

    Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.

    I mean really...

    not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points

    Nah, he used the mist form+ costume bug

    Yeah it allows you to change certain values but I can't see how cheat engine impacts management of resources etc. Even the "cheaters" say it can't be used in that manner.

    Keep in mind, I don't know Kodi, nor have I ever gone to his Twitch stream (I have watched a couple of his build videos though). BUT I don't think anyone has really proven he is cheating because he's not hitting his ulti constantly nor does he seem to move faster than anyone else.

    I’m not speaking to Kodi cheating or not cheating. But you can change ability costs with CE
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