kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
rfennell_ESO wrote: »Thing about the red scare and McCarthy is nearly everyone he was investigating WAS a communist. Drop the investigations and they infiltrate the media and education systems and we're where we are now.
ShadowProc wrote: »Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.
Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop
Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »Thing about the red scare and McCarthy is nearly everyone he was investigating WAS a communist. Drop the investigations and they infiltrate the media and education systems and we're where we are now.
Lmao. Dude, thanks for publicly confirming that you are indeed a rabid conspiracy theorist.
BroanBeast1215 wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.
Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop
Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.
as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.
just pointing that out.
BroanBeast1215 wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.
Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop
Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.
as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.
just pointing that out.
Burden of Proof is not a court thing. It is common sense, and applies to any situation where you accuse someone of something. Otherwise, you will get burnt. Try accusing your wife of cheating on you, without proof, and see how she reacts when you ask her to show proof of not cheating.
Sandman929 wrote: »BroanBeast1215 wrote: »ShadowProc wrote: »Ah. Yet another video offering no proof. Show your hands and programs running in bkgd on stream or STFU. But of course you won't.
Guess we will just wait for another crash to desktop
Really? That is not how the burden of proof works. YOU need to show proof of him cheating - not the other way around. So show the proof or STFU. But of course you won’t.
as this is not a court case, burden of proof does not apply here.
just pointing that out.
Burden of Proof is not a court thing. It is common sense, and applies to any situation where you accuse someone of something. Otherwise, you will get burnt. Try accusing your wife of cheating on you, without proof, and see how she reacts when you ask her to show proof of not cheating.
Proof of not cheating in that scenario isn't possible. So it's not quite the same thing. The request of aiming the camera at the hands rather than the face and showing backgroup apps in this case isn't something that's impossible, in fact it's pretty easy. Kodi made a video in response to the claim of cheating already, so clearly he cares enough to do something in response to the allegation (which he didn't have to respond at all, baseless claims don't require a response). If he cares enough to make the video why not make the accusation seem absolutely ridiculous and go that extra mile?
That's a somewhat flawed summation. Your character stats are determined client side, then relayed to the server in order to cut down on server side calculations. The client is responsible for telling the server everything about what your toon is doing: what your stats are, where on the map you are and so on. CE and programs like it work by editing what your client is telling the server. That is how people were able to use CE to tweak their stats and allow the now infamous speed hacking, levitation, infinite ult gen, ect.VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.
I mean really...
HoloYoitsu wrote: »That's a somewhat flawed summation. Your character stats are determined client side, then relayed to the server in order to cut down on server side calculations. The client is responsible for telling the server everything about what your toon is doing: what your stats are, where on the map you are and so on. CE and programs like it work by editing what your client is telling the server. That is how people were able to use CE to tweak their stats and allow the now infamous speed hacking, levitation, infinite ult gen, ect.VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
CE shouldn't work in most MMOs, but that's because most MMOs invest in server side sanity checks and game guard programs that try to detect known cheat programs running on your system.
VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
rfennell_ESO wrote: »kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.
I mean really...
not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points
VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
Except ESO doesn’t double check a lot of client side transmissions and you can run a program like cheat engine, which allows you to changerfennell_ESO wrote: »kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.
I mean really...
not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points
Nah, he used the mist form+ costume bug
VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
Your "lol" is misplaced and your lack of knowledge of how ESO works is showing.
AddOns have absolutely nothing to do with this.
When ESO went live it was completely based on client trust and quickly turned into a bot/cheat paradise.
ZOS has been doing damage control ever since but you'd be surprised how many things can still be manipulated client side.
CE (and others like it) has never stopped working with ESO, it is still possible to change many stats locally on your client, if you know how.
Posts like yours are either born from ignorance or made with the goal of deliberately distracting from the issue.
In either case, you are wrong....
rfennell_ESO wrote: »kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.
I mean really...
not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points
VirtualElizabeth wrote: »
Your "lol" is misplaced and your lack of knowledge of how ESO works is showing.
AddOns have absolutely nothing to do with this.
Hence my disclaimer that I am not sure how all this works! I used ADD ONs as a way to explain in a simple to use way to differentiate client ESO stuffs from Server Side ESO stuffs. And not to come across as rude, if you would have read my later response, I said I did not know that much about the client side saving of stats.
When ESO went live it was completely based on client trust and quickly turned into a bot/cheat paradise.
ZOS has been doing damage control ever since but you'd be surprised how many things can still be manipulated client side.
CE (and others like it) has never stopped working with ESO, it is still possible to change many stats locally on your client, if you know how.
Posts like yours are either born from ignorance or made with the goal of deliberately distracting from the issue.
In either case, you are wrong....
Born from ignorance? Maybe... Deliberately distracting...NO. It comes from my annoyance with hearing over and over from way too many PVP players claims like this with very little facts. "Someone out played me so of course they must be cheating." Comments like this are BS and childish and born out of emotion.
Pics or it didn't happen folks!
VirtualElizabeth wrote: »VirtualElizabeth wrote: »Okay so...I did some research on Cheat Engine and I must admit I don't know a lot about this application at all. It appears that cheat engine is largely used for Client Side gaming to adjust client side stats - usually the in game currency amount. For ESO the data that makes your character, well, your character is server side. This allows you to log into more than one computer and have your characters stats intact. Your add-ons may not transfer though since those are client side.
Bottom line Cheat Engine will not work in most MMOs, period since it cannot impact server side data. Well that's how I see it lol.
Except ESO doesn’t double check a lot of client side transmissions and you can run a program like cheat engine, which allows you to changerfennell_ESO wrote: »kyle.wilson wrote: »I don't think Kodi is a cheater.
But, when so many of the "great" players were caught using CE, it kinda poisoned the game. Especially after ZOS let many of them back, only to ban them again after a few months. I
The fact that CE still has workarounds is why so many good players will always face allegations.
Its ZOS's complete laziness, and not being forthcoming that has lead to so much conspiracy theories.
Guild of shadows should have been disbanded after this.
https://youtu.be/1EXQ5enFYh4
also why should a whole guild dispand because of a single persons actions, noone realizes how many of these "great" 1vX'ers used cheat engine back in the day, so many people used it and had it hiden, zazeer brought the eyes to the issue at hand, and he paid for it in a perma ban, none the less it changed what eso is today
look at all the names of the great 1vX'ers that for some reason all decided to "quit" the game, literally the exact same time people got banned for CE, hmmmmmmmmmm
Lol, that's the same guild that blixney used to openly run with and lay down siege for when he was 100% unkillable.
I mean really...
not once did blinxy use any type of cheat engine or 3rd party client to do what he did, it was 100% use of certain set items and the 2000+ champion points he had at the time, back when he was able to use all of the champion points
Nah, he used the mist form+ costume bug
Yeah it allows you to change certain values but I can't see how cheat engine impacts management of resources etc. Even the "cheaters" say it can't be used in that manner.
Keep in mind, I don't know Kodi, nor have I ever gone to his Twitch stream (I have watched a couple of his build videos though). BUT I don't think anyone has really proven he is cheating because he's not hitting his ulti constantly nor does he seem to move faster than anyone else.