Failed 1vX clip, please comment advice

Alfie2072

Heyo!
heres a clip of myself in a 1vX situation, which i did not end up winning, but i would just like to post it here and ask that you guys give me some feedback on what i could possibly do better, anything im doing wrong, and anything im doing right
(please leave real advice and help, none of this "l2p" ***)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fJHLF8I2Ss&feature=youtu.be

eso_nya

u made the biggest possible mistake in a 1vX:

U fought good players! xD

ppl w/ vigor, ppl using skills instead of exclusivly light attacking, ppl that actively try to kill u, ppl spreading out? u avoid those.

Around sec 20, where u cant burst down that guy? that would have been the moment to run away.

Alfie2072

eso_nya wrote: »

u made the biggest possible mistake in a 1vX:

U fought good players! xD

ppl w/ vigor, ppl using skills instead of exclusivly light attacking, ppl that actively try to kill u, ppl spreading out? u avoid those.

Around sec 20, where u cant burst down that guy? that would have been the moment to run away.

i cant tell if you are trying to be a *** or being funny, but that is some dam good advice

zParallaxz

Alfie2072 wrote: »

eso_nya wrote: »

u made the biggest possible mistake in a 1vX:

U fought good players! xD

ppl w/ vigor, ppl using skills instead of exclusivly light attacking, ppl that actively try to kill u, ppl spreading out? u avoid those.

Around sec 20, where u cant burst down that guy? that would have been the moment to run away.

i cant tell if you are trying to be a *** or being funny, but that is some dam good advice

He is telling u the truth lol. But you could of put ur trap down, then jabbed to get the major savagery, then dawnbreakered and hopefully u didn’t hit anyone with cc immunity. A good majority of people don’t know but you if ur fighting competent people, always hit em with a fully buffed ult without their cc immunity.

eso_nya

Alfie2072 wrote: »

i cant tell if you are trying to be a *** or being funny.

Both. Didnt intend to bash u tho. sry if that came off wrong.
When u watch 1vX clips and only focus on "what is the X doing?" u will see a lot of "strange" things.
Why is there heavy resto attacks, but noone is healing?
Amount of light attacking ppl times dmg of oblivion enchant equals he should die in less than 5 secs, whys he still alive?
He heavy attacks because stam is low, why does noone block?

The more "skilled" thing to be seen tho, realising in a splitsecond that some guy who joins in is a threat and either stomping or disengaging.

FloppyTouch

U didnt LoS and try to take out 1 person at a time when they where more split apart.

In that video you even ran out when an ult was on you would have been better to let it hit you away from them then drop out.

In IC best to find a building run upstairs or around a stair case or anything trying to get them away from each other. Then burst and kill one as fast as possible.

Also looked like they had a healer with them it was gg right there

ToRelax

You were very focused on preventing the rez and possibly using it to pressure the healer. Let your guard down and the Sorc blew you up. To 1vX successfully, you often need to take some hits in order to finish someone off, and that works only when you have a good idea what kind of damage your opponents can deal to you. So you didn't necessarily make some huge mistake there. Adjust to your opponents, get a better feel for what you can take and you'll get better at it.

crusnik91

u got a range cc. use it on others to buy u time while u kill the resser. either that or u should just let him res and get into the house for some kiting and los

Irylia

1. Utilize the los more.
2. When taking huge bursts break the damage up with los.
3. Before using ult make sure you have all buffs running and they are off of cc.
(trap, rally, enchant, gear sets)
4. Prioritize squishy or low cp/level targets.

That dude was going to spam Rez the entire time and that’s what people do when they aren’t confident they can kill without numbers. You ended up burning too many resources just trying to bang on the res bot who was receiving heals. The sorc was the immediate priority as he was the only one within the group with damage to kill you and he is also arguably the easiest to burst.

Most sorcs are *** and while they will attempt to turtle if you mindlessly jab at them they will forget to ward up often when not focused.

The best thing to do is use the terrain to your advantage as wards are 6 seconds. Keep an eye on his hp bar and pretend to be focused on the healer or tank dude. When you get ult up bomb the sorc either in front of the other two or draw him around los so the healer can’t hit him.
While you may be allowing a Rez it seemed that first guy you killed was fairly unaware and you can trade the sorc death for his life. When people get rezzed they have no resources so should be a quick kill before focusing the res bot.

Alternatively you could allow the res and bring them into your lair of los and ult dump them around a corner as they chase after.

Make them make mistakes for you.

Thogard

Work on your ult timing and target selection. The DB didn’t get that guy down the first time so I dunno why you wasted it on him a second time.

Sorc probably would’ve been the preferred target. I think you were too impatient. Should’ve let them Rez, kite them a bit, and then loop back around and get the slowest / farthest back player (probably the sorc)

lynog85

More line of sighting and better burst timing. Did you even use power of the light besides at the start? Its a huge part of stamplar burst.

BroanBeast1215

I would have played with line of sight more, as opposed to being caught inbetween all 3 of those guys. also probably would have used dawnbreaker at a more opportune time i.e. when one or more of those dudes were bunched up or when that guy was trying to get the rez off.

as far as 4v1s go you didn't do badly!

Waffennacht

If only he had cleared the rubble with those jumps

I think he tried to LoS, didn't clear the wall and had to re engage or else get pwned trying to jump

I think had he made it, it would have looked way different

Drummerx04

A lot of good suggestions above.

The sorc was the only one out of the 3 that seemed to do dangerous levels of damage, so I would have tried to burst him down as he almost certainly would have been squishier than the templar. My #1 rule for 1vX is to kill the squishy first (even if not the most dangerous simply because it's a little less pressure off of you immediately), and you almost certainly had the burst to kill that sorc outright.

The way I usually approach these situations as a magsorc would have me stay within melee bash range for the rez and then just range the sorc. The templar was obviously just going to go for the rez, I don't think he even considered attacking you. There were a few times when you LoSed the sorc making him walk pretty close to the rezzer. You could have dawnbreakered both (or all 3) at the same time which would have been a pretty huge help.

In essence you gave the sorc free license to wail away on you and he never had to shield, break free, or otherwise do anything besides reposition a little to hit you.

Use potl more. it's at least as powerful as sorc curse and a pretty effective burst tool.

Alfie2072

Thanks for all the advice guys! rewatching and seeing things i could of done differently to win that fight

Lexxypwns

I don't know if I saw you use power of the light or blood craze as part of any combos.

Jabs-Jabs-Jabs-more jabs isn't a combo that's going to work often. You have DoTs and extra burst mechanics for a reason, multiple times if you'd dropped a DoT-PotL on the guy trying to get the rez before going into jabs-CC he'd have definitely died. You also could have targeted the mag sorc with his shields down(he's clearly not refreshing them) instead(especially when he dropped his meteor and you know he can't just pop resto and lol at your damage), but if you don't get a quick kill there he'll shield up and you'll need to move to another target. Dragging them into that building would be the ideal situation, but I understand the desire to prevent the res.


On top of that, you got a little over eager for the kill on the guy rezzing, this left you exposed and taking extra damage that you weren't mitigating during the Jabs channel.

The biggest things are staying alive and managing numbers, getting kills comes secondary when you're not going to get zerged down if the fights not over in X amount of time.