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Invigorating Drain vs Accelerating Drain...

TheDoomsdayMonster
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Once upon a time, I didnt think much of Accelerating Drain...

I thought the utility it provides (Minor Expedition) paled compared to the Ultimate Regeneration provided by Invigorating Drain; recent tests on my Vampire Lord build are starting to give me second thoughts as pertains this as Accelerating Drain has some really good synergies associated with it...

So, in a PvP environment, which of these two abilities do you slot and why?
Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on December 4, 2017 10:25PM
Unyeilding Bias
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Invigorating Drain vs Accelerating Drain... 21 votes

Invigorating Drain...
66%
MalnutritionHavenKartalinpaulsimonpsWaffennachtKr3doTaylor_MBBobby_V_RockitChilly-McFreezeTheDoomsdayMonsterHippie4927GaunterODimCompM4sStyxius 14 votes
Accelerating Drain...
33%
AkinosIVooMinnoBrutusmax1musThogardRainravenEvanlyn_Winter 7 votes
  • Minno
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    Accelerating Drain...
    Last I tried vamp, I used acceleration drain. You get the mobilty even if you blockcancel the spell. So I used to hit it, then blockcancel into mist form for 40% movement speed. It really didn't matter the target either, so hitting Sorc pets was fun lol

    But then again I was a Templar that could spam Dawn's wraith abilities for my ultimate generation. Other classes might see better benefit for invigorating drain, especially DKs who have Regen tied behind their ultimate use.
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  • Akinos
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    Accelerating Drain...
    Accelerating Drain+Mist Form = Fast DK or Templar.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Invigorating Drain...
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear
    Edited by Waffennacht on December 4, 2017 10:51PM
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Accelerating Drain...
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??
  • Waffennacht
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    Invigorating Drain...
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik
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  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Accelerating Drain...
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik

    5 ultimate, minor expedition, lot you could do with both i guess. gimme that speed tho!!
  • Waffennacht
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    Invigorating Drain...
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik

    5 ultimate, minor expedition, lot you could do with both i guess. gimme that speed tho!!

    Do I look like I need speed??

    tGqOiSf.jpg

    actually just wanted an excuse to post this awesome pic
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik

    5 ultimate, minor expedition, lot you could do with both i guess. gimme that speed tho!!

    Do I look like I need speed??

    tGqOiSf.jpg

    actually just wanted an excuse to post this awesome pic

    Looks like you’re on speed
  • Casul
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik

    5 ultimate, minor expedition, lot you could do with both i guess. gimme that speed tho!!

    Do I look like I need speed??

    tGqOiSf.jpg

    actually just wanted an excuse to post this awesome pic

    Looks like you’re on speed

    Devil magic = speed
    PvP needs more love.
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    Accelerating Drain...
    @Waffennacht sweet shot, but "maybe you took too much too fast."
  • Waffennacht
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    Invigorating Drain...
    @Waffennacht sweet shot, but "maybe you took too much too fast."

    I'm like seeing spirits and elves!
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  • Thogard
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    Accelerating Drain...
    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Seeing as the ult gen is higher per sec than any other gain, seeing as I use the CC for bursting, seeing as ults are a part of that burst, my choice is clear

    The ult generation only happens while you siphon, so canceling early to burst stops it. Do you siphon the full 3 seconds??

    No, but you do get a single tick afaik

    5 ultimate, minor expedition, lot you could do with both i guess. gimme that speed tho!!

    Do I look like I need speed??

    tGqOiSf.jpg

    actually just wanted an excuse to post this awesome pic

    Looks like you’re on speed

    God damnit you beat me to it.
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  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Invigorating Drain...
    Minno wrote: »
    Last I tried vamp, I used acceleration drain. You get the mobilty even if you blockcancel the spell. So I used to hit it, then blockcancel into mist form for 40% movement speed. It really didn't matter the target either, so hitting Sorc pets was fun lol.

    You know the synergy between Accelerating Drain, Elusive Mist, and Wild Running is very, very, very, good...

    When combined with the Dark Stalker passive and 44% sneak reduction due to champion tree, skillpoint usage and Vampire Lord gear, you can damn near turn a Magicka Templar into a hybrid Nightblade with the cheap cost of sneaking and speed you can sneak in...

    You can pretty much run in stealth all over Imperial City while only stopping every now and then...

    Its so good that I am tempted to turn from Invigorating Drain, but ID allows me to have so much uptime on Devouring Swarm...

    I love to solo in Imperial City and because of all the trash mobs present, I am able to refresh my ultimate very rapidly after using it; I can kill someone and literally recoup the ult cost for the Swarm in seconds (light attack a daedra, then hit it with ID until its dead...this results in a very large Ult gain for a single mob...on the teleporting mobs, you can fully rebuild the swarm by killing a single mob in the fashion).

    That said, ID isn't that great against the better players as they'll bash you long before you can complete the Drain, making it a liability...

    Atleast with Accelerating, you can cancel out of it (as you correctly stated @Minno) immediately and get good benefit out of it...

    This is a tough decision to make on which is better...
    Unyeilding Bias
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  • Victimize
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    @Ultimate_Overlord which morph do you use ;)
  • Ultimate_Overlord
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    @Victimize I am a Werewolf Necromancer Lord. I have nothing to do with this petty vampire stuff
  • Waffennacht
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    Invigorating Drain...
    I tested invig. You can cancel too early and get 0 ult gain, you can get a single tick from it and still block cancel, it's just not very easy to do.

    I guess I will be doing speed after all

    ;)

    (Gonna need it after this event)
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