EP = Bowtards

Alfie2072

just a question, is ep all bowtards? seems like every time im about to get into a fight, say theres 10 AD, and theres around 10ep too, so i think its okay to start fighting them (im full meele) i end up getting focused by all the ad and die, then when i look ALL of the ep at the fight are sittting back spamming nothing but bow light attacks, its beyond a joke how often this kind of thing happens
does it happen for others?

Akinos

Every faction has it's share of bowtards...

Alfie2072

Akinos wrote: »

Every faction has it's share of bowtards...

you're right, i just play mostly ep, and i see it so much
most of my deaths are caused by being focused by all the enemy players around because my "teammates" are light attacking their bows and arent getting into the fight

Thogard

Alfie2072 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Every faction has it's share of bowtards...

you're right, i just play mostly ep, and i see it so much
most of my deaths are caused by being focused by all the enemy players around because my "teammates" are light attacking their bows and arent getting into the fight

Maybe you should try not zerging anymore. Go take a resource by yourself and see who turns up

EdmundTowers

I thought AD was the bowtard faction. EP is the DK tank turds.

Adenoma

Everyone is a bowtard at heart.

Alfie2072

Thogard wrote: »

Alfie2072 wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Every faction has it's share of bowtards...

you're right, i just play mostly ep, and i see it so much
most of my deaths are caused by being focused by all the enemy players around because my "teammates" are light attacking their bows and arent getting into the fight

Maybe you should try not zerging anymore. Go take a resource by yourself and see who turns up

i do that
i get zerged down too xD
who ever said im zerging? 10 ep = zerg? miss me with that salty ***

Grimlok_S

Alfie2072 wrote: »

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i do that
i get zerged down too xD
who ever said im zerging? 10 ep = zerg? miss me with that salty ***

Kind of hard to miss you when you're the only player running in face first! Ayoo

Alfie2072

Grimlok_S wrote: »

Alfie2072 wrote: »

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i do that
i get zerged down too xD
who ever said im zerging? 10 ep = zerg? miss me with that salty ***

Kind of hard to miss you when you're the only player running in face first! Ayoo

well idk if you understood, but thats the whole reason i made the thread, because noones actually fighting they are just spamming bow light attacks
hopefully you understand now ayoo

Kartalin

Every time we’re near the AD pugs we hear the familiar, rhythmic twang of bow light attacks being spammed.

Laggus

How dare they use bows against melee builds. After all the trouble you went to!

FloppyTouch

While dc is at the bridge wondering where all the ad and ep are

Alfie2072

Laggus wrote: »

How dare they use bows against melee builds. After all the trouble you went to!

i think you are completely missing the point, i have no issue with people using bows
its the fact that EVERYONE is using a bow, and they arent even using abilitys to do damage they are just light attacking ahhhaa

FloppyTouch wrote: »

While dc is at the bridge wondering where all the ad and ep are

LOL

lazerlaz

Rather than mindlessly jumping into fights you should be more aware of your surroundings. Snipes are easy to counter just pay attention and expect it coming.

Alfie2072

lazerlaz wrote: »

Rather than mindlessly jumping into fights you should be more aware of your surroundings. Snipes are easy to counter just pay attention and expect it coming.

considering i didnt once mention snipes, nor did i mention myself getting hit by bow attacks, i think you may be confused with what im saying, reread it please buddy

Curragraigue

While the sacrificial meat shield was sent in the bowtards charged their ults

Thogard

Alfie, a lot of people are giving you some good advice. Try not to get so defensive. Most of us can tell exactly what’s happening by how your describing it.

Sometimes rather than thinking “how can I overcome this situation” it’s best to be a bit humble and think “what did I *** up that lead me to this situation”

I’ll tell you right now that I wouldn’t be caught dead in an area with 10 EP “stealth archers” lurking, and I certainly wouldn’t ever count on them to ever do anything useful. Those guys are zerglings and are only there to leech AP, not to actually turn the tide of the fight. And here’s the real mind blower... if you find yourself relying on zerglings to win a fight, and if you’re trying to time your pushes with theirs, then you know what that makes you? I think you do.

There’s no shame in being a zerglings. I was one until 2016! But the downside of that play style is that the other zerglings aren’t reliable and they aren’t coordinated. Rather than complaining about that fact, i think your energy would be better spent by putting yourself in a situation where you DONT need to depend on them.

Alfie2072

Thogard wrote: »

Alfie, a lot of people are giving you some good advice. Try not to get so defensive. Most of us can tell exactly what’s happening by how your describing it.

Sometimes rather than thinking “how can I overcome this situation” it’s best to be a bit humble and think “what did I *** up that lead me to this situation”

I’ll tell you right now that I wouldn’t be caught dead in an area with 10 EP “stealth archers” lurking, and I certainly wouldn’t ever count on them to ever do anything useful. Those guys are zerglings and are only there to leech AP, not to actually turn the tide of the fight. And here’s the real mind blower... if you find yourself relying on zerglings to win a fight, and if you’re trying to time your pushes with theirs, then you know what that makes you? I think you do.

There’s no shame in being a zerglings. I was one until 2016! But the downside of that play style is that the other zerglings aren’t reliable and they aren’t coordinated. Rather than complaining about that fact, i think your energy would be better spent by putting yourself in a situation where you DONT need to depend on them.

Im guessing you have passed the stage im at at the moment, and you have the skill to take on a zerg by yourself and come off on top? right?

Alfie2072

Thogard wrote: »

Alfie, a lot of people are giving you some good advice. Try not to get so defensive. Most of us can tell exactly what’s happening by how your describing it.

Sometimes rather than thinking “how can I overcome this situation” it’s best to be a bit humble and think “what did I *** up that lead me to this situation”

I’ll tell you right now that I wouldn’t be caught dead in an area with 10 EP “stealth archers” lurking, and I certainly wouldn’t ever count on them to ever do anything useful. Those guys are zerglings and are only there to leech AP, not to actually turn the tide of the fight. And here’s the real mind blower... if you find yourself relying on zerglings to win a fight, and if you’re trying to time your pushes with theirs, then you know what that makes you? I think you do.

There’s no shame in being a zerglings. I was one until 2016! But the downside of that play style is that the other zerglings aren’t reliable and they aren’t coordinated. Rather than complaining about that fact, i think your energy would be better spent by putting yourself in a situation where you DONT need to depend on them.

i mean you are right, im not very skilled at the game, im not skilled because when i find myself fighting a large group of AD players pretty much solo, i would rather have a few ep in the fight with me instead of sitting right back spamming light attacks, hopefully if i practice more ill be able to solo large groups while they are all focusing me, thank you for the great advice

Pastas

Alfie2072 wrote: »

just a question, is ep all bowtards? seems like every time im about to get into a fight, say theres 10 AD, and theres around 10ep too, so i think its okay to start fighting them (im full meele) i end up getting focused by all the ad and die, then when i look ALL of the ep at the fight are sittting back spamming nothing but bow light attacks, its beyond a joke how often this kind of thing happens
does it happen for others?

No, it doest happens to me, I'm spamming ligth attacks in your back and watching you die. LOL.

My first intention was to give you some serious advice, then I read your other posts in this thread.

Keep blaming your allies for your faults and being salty with the people trying to help you.

Xvorg

Akinos wrote: »

Every faction has it's share of bowtards...

They are tasty... especially the blue ones

Xvorg

Alfie2072 wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Alfie, a lot of people are giving you some good advice. Try not to get so defensive. Most of us can tell exactly what’s happening by how your describing it.

Sometimes rather than thinking “how can I overcome this situation” it’s best to be a bit humble and think “what did I *** up that lead me to this situation”

I’ll tell you right now that I wouldn’t be caught dead in an area with 10 EP “stealth archers” lurking, and I certainly wouldn’t ever count on them to ever do anything useful. Those guys are zerglings and are only there to leech AP, not to actually turn the tide of the fight. And here’s the real mind blower... if you find yourself relying on zerglings to win a fight, and if you’re trying to time your pushes with theirs, then you know what that makes you? I think you do.

There’s no shame in being a zerglings. I was one until 2016! But the downside of that play style is that the other zerglings aren’t reliable and they aren’t coordinated. Rather than complaining about that fact, i think your energy would be better spent by putting yourself in a situation where you DONT need to depend on them.

i mean you are right, im not very skilled at the game, im not skilled because when i find myself fighting a large group of AD players pretty much solo, i would rather have a few ep in the fight with me instead of sitting right back spamming light attacks, hopefully if i practice more ill be able to solo large groups while they are all focusing me, thank you for the great advice

Ok, this is the thing: dying doens't matter as long as your death means something for your faction. Yes, killing enemies/healing allies is always good, but it is also pretty useful to delay a raid by forcing a zerg to focus on you; to look for an enemy FC in a siege; or to burn siege engines during a siege.

If the zerlings believe spamming light attacks is gonna help, just leave them that way. Not always is a good idea to go against a group on your own, just look for a work you can do without any help.

By the way, there's a very good work you can do after a fight: watch the enemy corpses. Sometimes they don't go and that could mean there's an enemy rezzing the group. Just wait untill it pops up and kill it. Most zerlings do no realize that.

Juhasow

Every faction have large numbers of (something)tards (something)bads and (something)hards

VadimAleks

The best and only way to counter the macro-users(pathetic cheaters) - dont fight in melee. I can not do anything against 4-5 strokes combo, because I'm dead even before I learned about the attack. So the bow is the only solution.

Thogard

Alfie2072 wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Alfie, a lot of people are giving you some good advice. Try not to get so defensive. Most of us can tell exactly what’s happening by how your describing it.

Sometimes rather than thinking “how can I overcome this situation” it’s best to be a bit humble and think “what did I *** up that lead me to this situation”

I’ll tell you right now that I wouldn’t be caught dead in an area with 10 EP “stealth archers” lurking, and I certainly wouldn’t ever count on them to ever do anything useful. Those guys are zerglings and are only there to leech AP, not to actually turn the tide of the fight. And here’s the real mind blower... if you find yourself relying on zerglings to win a fight, and if you’re trying to time your pushes with theirs, then you know what that makes you? I think you do.

There’s no shame in being a zerglings. I was one until 2016! But the downside of that play style is that the other zerglings aren’t reliable and they aren’t coordinated. Rather than complaining about that fact, i think your energy would be better spent by putting yourself in a situation where you DONT need to depend on them.

Im guessing you have passed the stage im at at the moment, and you have the skill to take on a zerg by yourself and come off on top? right?

You can watch my pvp build video, with about 30 min of pvp recorded yesterday, and be the judge of that yourself. Most of it is in BGs, which i strongly suggest you try out if you don't like getting zerged down. That's literally why they made the BGs.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/383734/build-vid-stam-dk-bg-small-scale-pvp-build-the-narcissist-cwc-rdy

Baconlad

Reason you see so many blowhards out is because for it's a stamina meta, two is nightblades and cloak. So easy to build max damage and still be able to slink away as a nightblade, i guarantee you atleast 60% of them are nightblades. Oh and defile is OPAF this patch....

Kanar

Alfie2072 wrote: »

Laggus wrote: »

How dare they use bows against melee builds. After all the trouble you went to!

i think you are completely missing the point, i have no issue with people using bows
its the fact that EVERYONE is using a bow, and they arent even using abilitys to do damage they are just light attacking ahhhaa

FloppyTouch wrote: »

While dc is at the bridge wondering where all the ad and ep are

LOL

You're just rushing in too early and expecting the rest to follow. But, they will only follow if it's not suicide. The ranged attacks serve to thin out the opposition and to stretch out their line. When the time is right most stamina will close to melee, but if you do it early the whole group gets wiped.

If you're using only melee (sword+shield instead of bow) then you better be tanky otherwise you will have no role in this type of combat. Of course you're gonna get focused if you charge out in front of all your allies.

Domander

It sounds like they were alive and fighting while the OP thought it was a good idea to melee a group of 10. If they are "bowtards" what does that make the OP?