[Suggestion] GROUP DUELS please

HiImRex

Please give us a group duel functionality.

Here's how it should work:

New option on radial wheel for "Party Duel"
Must be in a party and have Crown to initiate
Can only initiate against Crown of another party
2x the radius of a standard duel
(optional - 3x radius group duels for large battles)
Players that leave the area forfeit and cannot return to the fight (doesn't affect entire team)
Duel is over when one side wipes

No requirement for even numbers, players themselves should have the option to set up any number of group duel scenarios
2v2, 2v3, 10v10, 12v6 whatever

This would be a huge boon to the pvp community.

Waffennacht

Ohh that's a good idea

Mihael

Le bump, le tag @ZOS_GinaBruno

GrigorijMalahevich

Yes, also give us an ability to duel without CP...

Thogard

Pretty please

Crown

Just make this part of a custom battleground thing.

Queue in as team 1, team 2, team 3, or spectator who can only stay in the outside / starting area - or better yet move around everywhere but as invisible / unable to interact with anyone.

Lord_Zele

This is actually a pretty great idea. If ZOS implemented this, it could be amazing. Getting Guilds to fight other guilds in an organized 'group duel' could help spread The Smaller PvP Community, especially since Cyrodiil has become an even larger Zergfest with it's increased population of players recently. (With Small Scale currently being a constant struggle because of the high numbers in Cyrodiil)
Battlegrounds are still a thing, but I believe this would be more 'fun' for players to get into, even if they don't make the AP they would make in Cyrodiil/BGs. Sometimes some Battleground matches lack good fights because of how easily you can avoid a fight if the gamemode isn't a 'deathmatch'.
Group Dueling can really help bring the Small Scale Community together to have great fights that aren't won with numbers, but instead with skill/strategy, thus leading to better fights.
It could also introduce Group Dueling Tournaments made by the community just like the Tournaments that were hosted by other big Dueling Guilds.
Great idea, I could see it working well.

CavalryPK

WHY IS NOT A THING YET!!!! WHY ARNT WE FUNDING THIS!!!! OMG ZOS

Irylia

Zos will most likely see this and attempt to incorporate it into battlegrounds or tell you to use the current bg system. I’m going to explain why that approach isn’t a good idea.

1. As it stands bg’s are random and pull pre made teams, low cp and three groups of four.
why is this a problem?
It’s too difficult and time consuming to try and q into other pre mades and you generally get an over powered team to pub stomp the others. Having three groups means that there will always be at least one team scurrying around for the objective of not everyone avoiding fights because the majority of gametypes discourage long fights as you end up losing significant points.

2. Bg’s are limited
they don’t offer the endless possibilities that overland zones and cyro do in terms of gorgeous terrain and unique locations to battle on.

3. No custom match/lobby
these would be absolutely necessary if they were to implement gvg as it cuts out the variables mentioned in #1

What they should do is much like what op suggests. Allow groups to stake a challenge thus creating a visible zone around the fighters, preventing outside interference such as buffs, healing, damage.

This allows groups to decide where they want to fight and when they want to and the concept of team v team will abstain from the stale monotony that bg’s have entered. There is a reason cyro has continued to provide entertainment for players even if slowly diminishing. People enjoy the dynamic fights that new terrain offers, It’s always different.

I advocate for the system that op suggests. The option to challenge groups in any location outside of bg’s

henryf530

Yezzir

Beardimus

Nope, think they just need private battlegrounds or locked to a guild etc. Would be sweet

Better yet if BG had CP removed

idk

Seems as though it would defeat the purpose of BGs. For the same reason you cannot choose which type of match I don't think Zos will introduce group dueling. Plenty of options already out there.

Akinos

HiImRex wrote: »

Please give us a group duel functionality.

Here's how it should work:

New option on radial wheel for "Party Duel"
Must be in a party and have Crown to initiate
Can only initiate against Crown of another party
2x the radius of a standard duel
(optional - 3x radius group duels for large battles)
Players that leave the area forfeit and cannot return to the fight (doesn't affect entire team)
Duel is over when one side wipes

No requirement for even numbers, players themselves should have the option to set up any number of group duel scenarios
2v2, 2v3, 10v10, 12v6 whatever

This would be a huge boon to the pvp community.

I had this exact suggestion in the BG forum section a while back and it's something that needs to happen.

Waffennacht

idk wrote: »

Seems as though it would defeat the purpose of BGs. For the same reason you cannot choose which type of match I don't think Zos will introduce group dueling. Plenty of options already out there.

Group dueling cannot be done by PuGs

Group dueling, assuming like normal duels, provide no reward

Group dueling would just be 2 groups

I see plenty of reasons to still do BGs

Ragnarock41

thats that we expected with battlegrounds in the first place.
Instead we got this 4v4v4 bs.
And zos wonders why it failed.

newtinmpls

I think this would be great - and it would be extra cool in PvP

Datthaw

This idea is amazing, but doubt we will ever see it. All of the good ideas like this just fall through the cracks.

I mean zos can't even fix bgs coding to where we can select a game option. And also couldn't even just add a cp option too it.

CavalryPK wrote: »

WHY IS NOT A THING YET!!!! WHY ARNT WE FUNDING THIS!!!! OMG ZOS

Unfortunately we are funding it, I'm just getting the depressing feeling that either they don't care, don't listen, or are just incompetent. And that makes me sad because I love this game

HiImRex

I have hopes that ZOS will listen

This is a simple feature that will add tons of value to the game

If we love the game, we spend money on it, simple as that. More you make me love this game the more I feel spending money for cosmetics is worthwhile

Iralyia brought up an excellent point--you have a dozen beautiful zones with interesting terrains and vistas. Let us take real advantage of that with a simple tool.

Thanks ZOS

Metemsycosis

I'm sold by the simplicity of crown initiating crown. It could be done kinda like a trade screen in which both crowns can view both teams before the fight begins. Conditions of victory: whoever's left wins. Reminds me of a pickup football game. Dont see why not.

Klytz

I would like this specifically for custom battles in the coldharbor estate. You can move obstacles around and change up the arena however you wanted

DivineFirstYOLO

have been saying this for ages.. i bought a house and made an arena just to be able to hold future 2v2, 3v3, etc tournaments...one day we may..

Artim_X

I want to see group battles in PvE land!

Vapirko

Beardimus wrote: »

Nope, think they just need private battlegrounds or locked to a guild etc. Would be sweet

Better yet if BG had CP removed

idk wrote: »

Seems as though it would defeat the purpose of BGs. For the same reason you cannot choose which type of match I don't think Zos will introduce group dueling. Plenty of options already out there.

Lol there always the nope crowd. Even for something that would have zero effect on them.

Emma_Overload

I want to see them add REWARDS and progression to regular dueling before they do anything else.

Why is dueling the only part of the game without this stuff? Even FISHING is a more rewarding activity!