Gain cps lose dps?!

wizzard

Homestead magicka sorcerer 47k 601cps
Cwc magicka sorcerer 43k 690cps

Stop nerfing!! Makes no sense gaining Cps but the dmg is not increasing

Naughty_Ryder

Stop whining, so many threads of you whining...

VaranisArano

That's because the damage increase from CP buffs your skills, not the other way around. If your skills got nerfed, or your rotation no longer benefits quite as much from where you have your CP, your damage will be less.

Moreover, you get the greatest gain in benefits from CP at lower amounts of CP because of diminishing returns. You'll note that the more CP you put in a passive, the less benefit you get from the next CP.

Between Homestead and Clockwork City, there was also this huge base game update called Morrowind that did a number on everyone because of how it reworked sustain and some of the CP passives. So in other words, comparing a Homestead Sorc rotation to a Clockwork City Sorc rotation and claiming that the increase in CP has someone led to lesser damage is ignoring the other changes to the game, like skills, sustain, traits, and gear.

The most likely answer is that your build has suffered from the skills, sustain, trait, and gear changes post-Homestead, and thus the buffs from the extra CP are not as effective as they could be.

WrathOfInnos

43k is actually quite good for this patch. Is that solo on a dummy? Or with group buffs? The most I've been able to do self buffed in CWC is about 42k, and that was with a perfect asylum staff on PTS.

I also loved the days of 47k sorcerer builds pre-Morrowind. Everything in game today feels weak by comparison. It does seem counterproductive that every time the CP cap is raised, the accompanying nerfs outweigh the gains. Morrowind sustain nerfs were probably the worst of it, but HotR gutting sharpened weapons and Thief stone, along with Necropotence hit Mag Sorc DPS about as hard. I still can't stand the changes to Daedric Tomb and Crystal Frags with CWC, so they almost never get a place on my skill bars. Nobody likes negative progression, it simply is not fun, and I've seen many people leave because of this.

SoLooney

43k is good for cwc patch, im only hitting 42kish with a heavy clench, once i get a perfected inferno im hoping it goes up with a fp rotation

but yea i agree, homestead mag sorcs did more damage before pets, frags, sustain, ilambris, and grothdarr took a damage nerf

itsfatbass

Cp trees % got nerfed, along with the cost increased and damage decreased of many skills. Along with other strait skill nerfs and sustain adjustments.

Apache_Kid

Agreed OP. I want my sustain tools back. Heavy attacking is boring. Having the same content you've ran countless times before take longer than it did months ago is no fun.

Mondini

git gud.
mag sorcs are easy mode stop qqing

ADarklore

Wow... someone just figured this out? Haven't been around for awhile OP? I suggest you read the patch notes when returning from a long hiatus to understand all of the game changes. Morrowind introduced a major overhaul of the CP system along with an overall reduction of sustain... devs said they wanted resource management to matter, so they forced everyone to begin heavy attacking to regen resources. They also made CP front-loaded, which means you get more bang for your buck early on, but then suffers from diminished return over time. There are also specific points called 'jump points' in the CP which you can search the forums to understand.