Capes and Cloaks 2018

Radinyn

JA. DAS IST EINE GUTE IDEE.

idk

danno8 wrote: »

Defilted wrote: »

I would rather see QOL improvements and bug fixes than resources being spent on capes.

And while the programmers responsible for bug fixes and QoL stuff are doing their thing, what are the art team and 40 other people In the office doing?

What the art team is doing is rather irrelevant to why capes are not in the game.

Zos has stated that server performance is the primary reason they are not adding them. With that being the case the argument must deal with that vs the mere I want to have it so they should add it.

AnviOfVai

I always love the animations of cloaks!! they just make you feel that more DRAMATIC. I also love long coats.










As much as I love them and would love to see them, I always have issues when characters that wear long cloaks or capes that cut through things, like when your riding a horse, no just no. the cape must go over the horse not through it, or through that wall...Clipping is my worst nightmaree

cbdfarm

While I think it would look good and I do want them it would already take a lot of CPU power with say 10-20+ people around, it would really come down on console players/average PC players CPUs and we would see even worse then the 20FPS we already get.

ProfesseurFreder

In theory I agree. But when I see the long-tailed frock coats (like the wedding suit and Sheogorath costume) and note that the backs cling to the character's legs unnaturally, I think that this effect would only be exacerbated with capes and cloaks. It's not annoying to me with the frock coat costumes, but it likely would be annoying on a larger scale.

lishybach

Capes remind me of playing Runescape in my Junior High days. They’d be cool to get if you achieved crafting at max level or whatever else takes a while to achieve. Would I wear them? Eh probably not. But still not a bad idea.

Balamoor

Agree


Despite what has been said by ZoS, most folks who understand game design and more importantly the ESO engine, knows that it's very possible to have good looking capes in this game without the lag that is suppose to happen.

Even if they didn't want to use a third party plugin I can think of four workarounds off the top of my head. They could also offset the cost by adding different types of cloaks to the crown store.

I have no issues against ZoS, but this is something the could easily do that would open up yet another revenue stream, and make a lot of us happy.

SSlarg

please add cloaks, thanks

zaria

ArchMikem wrote: »

Agree.

But it won't ever happen. They said the extra animations and physics would put too much of an unnecessary strain on an already complained about game performance. Sure you want these things but do you also want more lag?

Had been cool, recruiting for the caped trolls PvP guild, you need i7 and 1080ti to join.
All has to use long capes, specialty is to ride around in an zerg group to make fights static.
Then practice target dummy rotation on enemy

Zaldan

not possible with current game engine

D0PAMINE

Agree

Nestor

The Capes you want kill the game performance, the Capes you can get, you don't want.

idk

Balamoor wrote: »

Agree


Despite what has been said by ZoS, most folks who understand game design and more importantly the ESO engine, knows that it's very possible to have good looking capes in this game without the lag that is suppose to happen.

Even if they didn't want to use a third party plugin I can think of four workarounds off the top of my head. They could also offset the cost by adding different types of cloaks to the crown store.

I have no issues against ZoS, but this is something the could easily do that would open up yet another revenue stream, and make a lot of us happy.

Balamoor wrote: »

Agree


Despite what has been said by ZoS, most folks who understand game design and more importantly the ESO engine, knows that it's very possible to have good looking capes in this game without the lag that is suppose to happen.

Even if they didn't want to use a third party plugin I can think of four workarounds off the top of my head. They could also offset the cost by adding different types of cloaks to the crown store.

I have no issues against ZoS, but this is something the could easily do that would open up yet another revenue stream, and make a lot of us happy.

I question how many outside of Zos understand the ESO servers and their load. It's much more than just an engine.

More to the point, anyone who's spent a fair ammount of time in Cyrodiil during active periods and have an understanding of Zos' servers might disagree since adding a flowing cape to the server load there is not going to help the situation.

No offense but it's easy for us to be arm chair developers but we don't know the design of the servers and why lag is still and issue over 42 months after it was launched (not that Zos really knows either).

I say this as someone who has built virtual networks as well as the physical transport layer. Of course servers are involved in each case. I have no clue beyond general design of how Our game servers are setup. Well, behond some specific information that came my way around launch time.

Which, if you actually have several ideas just off the top of your head that's will solve the lag situation and permit Zos to add capes I'd suggest posting your actual ideas here. If they are solid ideas you'll get their attention. I have seen it happen with Zos.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Disagree. This has been talked about many times. They have specifically talked about the issues with graphically making cloaks/capes look good. Have you been in cyro lately? Fix the lag and we can talk, but we dont need anything that would potentially make it worse.

Sera67

Simple answer

Yes, BUT.. Player side only. I dont need see everyone else cloak or cape. Just mine.

LotrO was good proof of issues, But being abke see it my end would cut the part of issue out. Ever since I saw Female Imp Statue with cloak... i wanted it.

Ostacia

If Aragorn can fight in a cape, warriors of Tamriel can fight in a cape, I say! Hip hip! Speaking of hips, maybe remove the hip...shields (?) from armor (or future armor) and turn it into capes? Yes! Or let vampires have capes if it's too much for the general populace.

waitwhat

Asared wrote: »

We: Capes and Cloaks would be awesome!


Zenimax:

Capes are a cute idea, but Edna's right.

If pets contribute to trials lag, I can only imagine what capes will do.

Mazbt

I wouldntt be surprised if they implemented these before fixing bot trains, lag and dcs....

Princess_of_Darkness

Agree!

Katahdin

Disagree

The Devs, who know the game inside and out better than any "arm chair developer" that claims otherwise, have said it cant happen because of the performance hit it would have on the servers.

The game has enough performance problems as it is.
You wouldnt be able to use them in Cyrodill as it is. Cyro couldnt handle deer and bugs.
It wouldnt be able to handle capes.
We dont need the PvE side having the same issues

KramUzibra

Agree

Iccotak

Cloaks would be great. Great for roleplaying in harsh environments like Skyrim.

BTW Cloaks were supposed to be in the game originally

Alexandrious

They cant even get the horrendous optimization done correctly for Trials and Cyrodiil.

You really want them to add Capes/Cloaks/Waistcoats/Flowing Sashes to add to the clown show?

All The Kek

DynastyIXII

No. It will look horrible and not move and pretty much be an eye sore.

Lokryn

Agree.

If ESO is to survive long-term, eventually they are going to have to add new things like this. As new tech is introduced to the market, they need to evolve their game design to take advantage.

Alexandrious

Lokryn wrote: »

Agree.

If ESO is to survive long-term, eventually they are going to have to add new things like this. As new tech is introduced to the market, they need to evolve their game design to take advantage.

Lokryn wrote: »

Agree.

If ESO is to survive long-term, eventually they are going to have to add new things like this. As new tech is introduced to the market, they need to evolve their game design to take advantage.

Or, continue as they are now, and put all the monies earned from Crown Crates, into Fallout Online!

All The Kek

Katahdin

Lokryn wrote: »

Agree.

If ESO is to survive long-term, eventually they are going to have to add new things like this. As new tech is introduced to the market, they need to evolve their game design to take advantage.

Cloaks, capes or the lack thereof will not make or break this game. I would rather see new zones and quest content, bug fixes and other things WAAY before cloaks and capes.

Its an issue with the game engine, not the design. The game engine is not something you can just change. You basically have to rebuild the game from the bottom up to change the engine and that is not going to happen.

How many times do people have to get told, its NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

CardboardedBox

*cyrodil lag is a whole different beast. My post is excluding it, as if it doesn't exist.-

Capes don't need to have super flappy physics, nor do they need to be glued to you. I've said it before, and I'll say it again.

Runescape capes.

If that ancient browser game can run capes perfectly fine, there's zero excuses why this one can't. Rs capes lift up when you run. That's about it. And they look perfectly fine. They don't flap all over the place, because they don't need to...

Crouching and rolling don't need anything special either. The cape can just bend with your character like any other piece of clothing.

wolfie1.0.

as much as i would like capes.... please focus on style switching and dye-able weapons first..

Belegnole

I came from a game with capes/cloaks....