VaranisArano wrote: »The whole Cyrodiilic jungle thing can be laid squarely at the feet of Oblivion, and I don't think its fair to blame ESO for choosing to go with Oblivion (an entire canon game) over the Pocket Guide to the Empire. Especially not when the Gold Coast zone is a loving homage to the Oblivion game that nearly made me boot up my copy of TES IV. Just walking up the road from to Kvatch was the purest experience of Oblivion nostalgia I've ever had.
My only complaint is that they turned my beloved Benirus manor in Anvil into a bank. A bank!
LukosCreyden wrote: »Those who say that ESO breaks the lore are, quite ironically, lacking in knowledge regarding the lore themselves.
2.Post-era lorebooks. Again I believe it can be explained with the existence of Hermaeus Mora...the dude collect books, who can say he can't possess books in the future and throw them to you, because as we all know those princes know who is the main character in every ES games and try to seduce them since the start of game.
rhapsodious wrote: »2.Post-era lorebooks. Again I believe it can be explained with the existence of Hermaeus Mora...the dude collect books, who can say he can't possess books in the future and throw them to you, because as we all know those princes know who is the main character in every ES games and try to seduce them since the start of game.
That's exactly what happened, he sends books through time and space to mess with people. There's a book by Septimus Signus in the game, which some people freak out about without noticing the Moth Priest footnote that basically says "wait, 4E201? the hell? this must be a transcription error..."
I'd give myself about an 8/10 on knowledge of the lore, and there's only been one thing that bothers me.
The Imperial City districts are rotated about 30 degrees.
ESO: Oblivion:
One era needs to fire their cartographer. :P
Pretty sure there was this whole huge post here detailing why the Planemeld could not have taken place. Some players like to think this game takes place during a concept called a “Dragon Break.” But imo, this would just be a way to get around lazy writing. I hate that concept. They really should’ve just had this game take place long after all the others. Would’ve made things simpler for them.
rhapsodious wrote: »2.Post-era lorebooks. Again I believe it can be explained with the existence of Hermaeus Mora...the dude collect books, who can say he can't possess books in the future and throw them to you, because as we all know those princes know who is the main character in every ES games and try to seduce them since the start of game.
That's exactly what happened, he sends books through time and space to mess with people. There's a book by Septimus Signus in the game, which some people freak out about without noticing the Moth Priest footnote that basically says "wait, 4E201? the hell? this must be a transcription error..."
I'd give myself about an 8/10 on knowledge of the lore, and there's only been one thing that bothers me.
The Imperial City districts are rotated about 30 degrees.
ESO: Oblivion:
One era needs to fire their cartographer. :P
Its the same dude actually for all the maps (I own several of them), so I guess either came to new insights, or the imperial city was build up from scratch again after the planemeld.
I think they're doing great with the lore. Although it's only months after white gold tower that the alliance war ends. So unless they plan on making a massive change to PvP, there's gonna be some lore breaking there soon
I think they're doing great with the lore. Although it's only months after white gold tower that the alliance war ends. So unless they plan on making a massive change to PvP, there's gonna be some lore breaking there soon
rhapsodious wrote: »The Imperial City districts are rotated about 30 degrees.
ESO: Oblivion:
One era needs to fire their cartographer. :P
1. Some people fail to recognize that any lore we do not directly experience firsthand in Elder Scrolls games comes from unreliable narrators. Everything is written by a character in-lore, with their own biases and preferences. Not only can (and often do) authors for lorebooks have an agenda, but sometimes they can be flat-out wrong on many things.
emilyhyoyeon wrote: »
1. Some people fail to recognize that any lore we do not directly experience firsthand in Elder Scrolls games comes from unreliable narrators. Everything is written by a character in-lore, with their own biases and preferences. Not only can (and often do) authors for lorebooks have an agenda, but sometimes they can be flat-out wrong on many things.
I'm so glad you brought this up since people seem to forget about it/not realize, not even necessarily in terms of TESO lore but TES lore in general.
I only know 3 accusation atm, none of them CAN'T be explained with lore. feel free to point out more.
1.Cyrodii rainforest. It is said it's changed by Talos using CHIM at the start of 3rd era....But who knows exactly how CHIM works? No one except lore writers themseves, and they didn't make clean about what exactly it is. It can be explained simply with "CHIM change all the perspective, like elder scrolls, it alters the reality of past, now and future" Talos used CHIM in 3rd era doesn't mean it affects only afterward. Maybe the CHIM changed cyrodii in all time, and only documentations (and probably those that kept by Mora get pass back so ppl know about it) about rainforest cyrodii remain
2.Post-era lorebooks. Again I believe it can be explained with the existence of Hermaeus Mora...the dude collect books, who can say he can't possess books in the future and throw them to you, because as we all know those princes know who is the main character in every ES games and try to seduce them since the start of game.
3.Children of cross-breed. It is stated that most children have the race of mother, and ESO clearly has examples where children follow the race of father's. However I do see exceptions in other ES lores as well, so I guess it only applies to majority, exceptions exist not only in ESO.
When ppl talk about "breaking lore" they need to realize ZOS is part of "lore-writing team", which means they get to decide what wasn't filled in, and even if they have contradiction between old lores, as long as there is a plausible explanation like the ones I have given, they are good to go.
Only lore/immersion thing ZOS need to be accused of is about having no children
I only know 3 accusation atm, none of them CAN'T be explained with lore. feel free to point out more.
3.Children of cross-breed. It is stated that most children have the race of mother, and ESO clearly has examples where children follow the race of father's. However I do see exceptions in other ES lores as well, so I guess it only applies to majority, exceptions exist not only in ESO.