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Let us buy Gold Mats now?

DRXHarbinger
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So seeing as the grind is now over for trait farming and we can just waltz through stupidly easy dungeons and spam heals at siege to earn them...

How about a Gold Mat Merchant now? Gear is now worthless, no longer can we flog the best traited weapons for huge money and divines, Impen, Sturdy or whatever, it doesn't matter now. It's the cheapest sale wins.
Reasoning behind it, I cannot sell a Sharp Staff for hundreds of K anymore, so thus cannot spunk stupid amounts of gold on Materials to upgrade it.
Anyone else feel with this change we should now have these materials added to like a Tel Var Merchant... Or perhaps even the Golden vendor (seems fitting) maybe even rotate it to Temps one week and Rosin/ Roe or whatever the next keeping the PVP lot happy in the process?
What think Mighty Forum Warriors?
Edited by DRXHarbinger on November 6, 2017 2:37PM
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Let us buy Gold Mats now? 99 votes

Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
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Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
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Compulsory other for the awkward people.
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  • starkerealm
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    No. With a side of **** no.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    No. With a side of **** no.

    Agree. End thread.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    Noooo !
    Edited by Cpt_Teemo on November 6, 2017 2:51PM
  • Apache_Kid
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    I mean... I would like to be able to buy them with Tel-Var.
  • jlboozer
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy
  • Turelus
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    I like horses.

    Maybe you should farm and sell gold tempers now rather than single perfect trait items? :trollface:
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  • Feanor
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    If you could farm the gold to buy the Tempers, you can farm the mats to refine them too. Just the grind would be different, so it wouldn’t change thing.
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  • Cpt_Teemo
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RitQOh9Z3yY
  • VaranisArano
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    Compulsory other for the awkward people.
    I'll just be here, minding my own business, farming raw mats to sell to all the folks who need to refine them to get those gold tempers for their re-traited BIS gear and counting my money rolling in.
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    Turelus wrote: »
    I like horses.

    Maybe you should farm and sell gold tempers now rather than single perfect trait items? :trollface:

    This is the problem, playing horse simulator hacking at bits of wood and rock is so boring. It's like being annoyed by the Prophet or any other annoying NPC asking me to do some chore they are too cowardly to do, I can only reply "sorry bruh having to hack at bits of wood to upgrade my staff first, gimme a couple of days and I'll be back"

    I'd just much rather be killing stuff, ganking people or siegeing to get good stuff rather than running around all friggin day. I'm on the verge of endorsing Botting as it's so boring.

    Mods for the record, I do not condone botting or any activity against TOS..... yet.
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  • Izaki
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    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.
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  • ParaNostram
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    Every time I log onto the forums, I expect to see some bad ideas. Nothing could have prepared me for an idea this bad.
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  • DRXHarbinger
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    Izaki knowsit.
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  • jlboozer
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    Not if you're selling the right items at the right prices....I average 50-250k a day, mostly selling mats in small stacks
  • DRXHarbinger
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    jlboozer wrote: »
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    Not if you're selling the right items at the right prices....I average 50-250k a day, mostly selling mats in small stacks

    So the reason for all the No here is people like you (not being rude here) are worrying over their daily gold hoard when logging in?

    Guessing all them people in the paradise papers are cool then.
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  • TelvanniWizard
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    If they are cheap, yes.
  • TequilaFire
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    No way, I make gold selling gold mats to lazy people. :trollface:
  • Ashtaris
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    Not only no, but hell no. One of the main reasons I still do crafting writs on my alts is for the extra mats and tempers I can sell on the guild stores.
  • jlboozer
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    jlboozer wrote: »
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    Not if you're selling the right items at the right prices....I average 50-250k a day, mostly selling mats in small stacks

    So the reason for all the No here is people like you (not being rude here) are worrying over their daily gold hoard when logging in?

    Guessing all them people in the paradise papers are cool then.

    Exactly...that's what "economy" means, we have to sell something.
  • Flameheart
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    The tempers are the only thing besides some recipes and housing stuff where you can earn some reasonable money.

    But ok, if we are talking about a price of 20k for each gold temper it would not bother me. Guild Traders will still rule the market.
    Sometimes the prey turns and nips us... it's a small thing.

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  • WillhelmBlack
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    Yay, we neeeeds it more than Gollum needs his precious
    jlboozer wrote: »
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    Not if you're selling the right items at the right prices....I average 50-250k a day, mostly selling mats in small stacks

    Some players don't log in every day though or have the time when they do. Jobs, families, all that.

    I've always wanted this, I'd even buy them with Crowns tbh. Plenty other games I play don't take longer than a week to completely gold out a character.
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  • supaskrub
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    Izaki wrote: »
    jlboozer wrote: »
    No, gold upgrade mats are the only thing that will sell in guild traders now...an NPC selling them would completely ruin the in game economy

    What game economy? Its already in ruins.

    True, but the Crown Store economy is flourishing and that's what counts.....
    Edited by supaskrub on November 6, 2017 3:43PM
  • Runs
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    You can already buy them. People sell them in zone, NPC's sell them for people at guild vendors. Problem solved. You can also buy after selling items bought with TV and AP...

    I mean really do you think an NPC would offer them cheaper than the going rate even if added? That's fairly naive. Look at writ recipe costs from vendors. Look at end game potency runes from vendors.

    Edited by Runs on November 6, 2017 3:47PM
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  • Motherball
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    Turelus wrote: »
    I like horses.

    Maybe you should farm and sell gold tempers now rather than single perfect trait items? :trollface:

    This is the problem, playing horse simulator hacking at bits of wood and rock is so boring. It's like being annoyed by the Prophet or any other annoying NPC asking me to do some chore they are too cowardly to do, I can only reply "sorry bruh having to hack at bits of wood to upgrade my staff first, gimme a couple of days and I'll be back"

    I'd just much rather be killing stuff, ganking people or siegeing to get good stuff rather than running around all friggin day. I'm on the verge of endorsing Botting as it's so boring.

    Mods for the record, I do not condone botting or any activity against TOS..... yet.

    Good thing there are plenty of players out there that do enjoy farming and exploiting the lazy.
  • Elsonso
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    Buy from Guild Kiosk. Problem solved. Buy from my guild to show your appreciation for such a simple answer.
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  • kojou
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    There will be a couple economic factors due to this change.

    If players are making less gold then the price of gold mats will come down due to less people being able to afford and buy.

    Also consider this, if a player has a sharpened gold 2h sword that he/she wants to change to another trait, rather than making/farming and upgrading a new one that player can just change the trait which means that player won't be buying 8 more tempers. I would much rather use 50 crystals rather than spend ~60k gold to upgrade a new weapon. So trait change will likely suppress demand on tempers as well.

    Now there may be some other economic conditions that come in to play that could swing the price up again (a major gear "rebalance" on a commonly used set, a gear level increase, etc), but I would expect tempers to keep getting cheaper until that happens.
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  • Countcalorie
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    Compulsory other for the awkward people.
    I like turtles
  • coop500
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    Naaaay, like the Mind Shriven Horse.
    TBH I make my money selling motifs, some go for quite a bit.
    Hoping for more playable races
  • zaria
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    Khajiit is confused: As you can not farm very rare sharpened weapons and sell for idiotic amounts of gold, but have to settle for 50K or something you want to buy gold mats from an merchant.

    Noting that most stuff sold from npc merchants are more expensive than buying from players I would assume price for gold tempers would be 10K or something

    Think the best source for gold tempers are the master writs, they have an decent chance of rewarding you with gold tempers.
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