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Transmutation Crystals Bug/Exploit

  • DarkAedin
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources
  • Caleb_Kadesh
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    Maybe this was just a brilliant move by devs to get more folks involved in PvP?

    One can only hope. :smile:
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?
  • DarkAedin
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying
  • BohnT
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.

    Just saying Pvpers get it way to easy now that most pvpers will end up quitting cause of nothing to do later good luck lol
  • VaranisArano
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    Is it just as simple as you have multiple PVP toons and get your first reward of the worthy with them? That's like 20k ap on each toon, so depending on your PVP skill it may or may not be as tasking as doing all your dailies with each toon. That should get you 4-25 crystals x the # of PVP toons you have.

    Not really an exploit so much as the system wasn't designed for someone with 8 PVP toons and the skill to get 20k AP with all of them daily. On the other hand, if someone has that skill, I suppose its better that they be able to get the crystals that way than by being forced to do endless dungeons.

    Now, if ZOS wants to limit that easily, its as simple as reintroducing faction locks for campaigns, but that's a whole 'nother issue entirely.
  • DarkAedin
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.

    Just saying Pvpers get it way to easy now that most pvpers will end up quitting cause of nothing to do later good luck lol

    U say "pvpers". And it seems u assumed im a "pvper".
    I dont lable myself thusly. I play eso. I do dungeons, trials, questing, altaholicisms, farming, vma, vdsa, and pvp as well. Just because u dont want to play a part of the game doesnt mean its broken or a bug. Get over urself
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.

    Just saying Pvpers get it way to easy now that most pvpers will end up quitting cause of nothing to do later good luck lol

    U say "pvpers". And it seems u assumed im a "pvper".
    I dont lable myself thusly. I play eso. I do dungeons, trials, questing, altaholicisms, farming, vma, vdsa, and pvp as well. Just because u dont want to play a part of the game doesnt mean its broken or a bug. Get over urself

    It does mean its broken if each part of the game does not give the same rewards as it was supposed to
  • BohnT
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    DarkAedin wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    PvP players can get much easier and much more crystals then PvE players because of that thing.

    I dont want to come in details how it is caused to not promote a bug but I wanna know is it something that is known bug and will be fixed @ZOS_GinaBruno ?

    All players can do this. Take off ur training wheels and enter pvp. U will die. A lot. like the rest of us. Get -over -it. And heaven forbid u actually attempt to enjoy something other then badly scripted pve content.
    Dont know why ur complaining about something anyone with the base game can accomplish in 20min by capping some resources

    Or people could just end up quitting and then you won't have any pvp later?

    Ur going to quit bc u dont want to pvp? Can i have ur stuff?

    Not just me, Pver's / Rpers hate pvp sorry thanks for trying

    No i know many players who like both pve and pvp sorry that others get some candy aswell.

    Just saying Pvpers get it way to easy now that most pvpers will end up quitting cause of nothing to do later good luck lol

    U say "pvpers". And it seems u assumed im a "pvper".
    I dont lable myself thusly. I play eso. I do dungeons, trials, questing, altaholicisms, farming, vma, vdsa, and pvp as well. Just because u dont want to play a part of the game doesnt mean its broken or a bug. Get over urself

    It does mean its broken if each part of the game does not give the same rewards as it was supposed to

    Please show me where this was mentioned. Post me the video or quote where the devs confirmed that.
    Maybe it was exactly the intention to give more crystals to pvp players to reduce their time in the unwanted pve part of the game.
  • Cpt_Teemo
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    On the main webpage where else

    Where Can I Get Transmutation Crystals?

    You can earn Transmutation Crystals from the following activities:

    Guaranteed drops:

    Random Daily LFG
    Undaunted Pledges
    Trial Weekly Quests
    Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
    Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
    Your first Rewards for the Worthy in a day
    Maelstrom Arena (Veteran mode only)
    Dragonstar Arena (Veteran mode only)

    Chance to drop:

    Dungeon Final Bosses
    Rewards for the Worthy mails, after your first for the day
    Random LFGs after your first


    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26221

    Implying CRYSTAL(S) more than 1, but each Random Daily / vet / normal run each give 1 each which is Crystal not Crystals.
    Edited by Cpt_Teemo on October 26, 2017 3:39PM
  • BohnT
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    On the main webpage where else

    Where Can I Get Transmutation Crystals?

    You can earn Transmutation Crystals from the following activities:

    Guaranteed drops:

    Random Daily LFG
    Undaunted Pledges
    Trial Weekly Quests
    Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
    Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
    Your first Rewards for the Worthy in a day
    Maelstrom Arena (Veteran mode only)
    Dragonstar Arena (Veteran mode only)

    Chance to drop:

    Dungeon Final Bosses
    Rewards for the Worthy mails, after your first for the day
    Random LFGs after your first


    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26221

    Implying CRYSTAL(S) more than 1, but each Random Daily / vet / normal run each give 1 each which is Crystal not Crystals.

    There is no exact quantity mentioned so get over it. Pve has a build in mechanic to give you the trait you want just by dropping it pvp does not offer that
  • Apache_Kid
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    I seriously cannot believe transmutation crystals aren't even out on console and people are already trying to give drop-rates the nerf. This place blows my mind sometimes.
  • Juhasow
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    Guys and girls You're really lovely trying to explain me that possibly I earned monthly/weely leaderboard reward or things like this. It's not the case I am talking about here. Thing I am talking involves bypassing base way to get crystals from PvP and it have nothing to do with drop rates or amounts of crystals for certain activities.

    I already posted what is that to Gina. I wont lie , I maded this thread simply to attract attention of someone that can respond and act quickly. It may not be game breaking thing but kinda annoying and unfair imo. PvP player can get more crystals by PvPing (zerging) for 3+ hours on 1 character then PvE player by doing all 3 daily vet HM pledges on 6-8 characters.
    Edited by Juhasow on October 26, 2017 5:11PM
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Why do I think the end result here will be that crystal drop rates will be heavily nerfed across the board, and then we'll be able to buy them in the crown store for 3-4k per item re-trait.
    "We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."
  • Voxicity
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Guys and girls You're really lovely trying to explain me that possibly I earned monthly/weely leaderboard reward or things like this. It's not the case I am talking about here. Thing I am talking involves bypassing base way to get crystals from PvP and it have nothing to do with drop rates or amounts of crystals for certain activities.

    I already posted what is that to Gina. I wont lie , I maded this thread simply to attract attention of someone that can respond and act quickly. It may not be game breaking thing but kinda annoying and unfair imo. PvP player can get more crystals by PvPing (zerging) for 3+ hours on 1 character then PvE player by doing all 3 daily vet HM pledges on 6-8 characters.

    That teabag in cyrodiil last night was completely uncalled for, from you and Blackbird. Or was that part of the exploit? :D

    Teabag a scrub = infinite crystals?

  • Cpt_Teemo
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    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    On the main webpage where else

    Where Can I Get Transmutation Crystals?

    You can earn Transmutation Crystals from the following activities:

    Guaranteed drops:

    Random Daily LFG
    Undaunted Pledges
    Trial Weekly Quests
    Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
    Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
    Your first Rewards for the Worthy in a day
    Maelstrom Arena (Veteran mode only)
    Dragonstar Arena (Veteran mode only)

    Chance to drop:

    Dungeon Final Bosses
    Rewards for the Worthy mails, after your first for the day
    Random LFGs after your first


    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26221

    Implying CRYSTAL(S) more than 1, but each Random Daily / vet / normal run each give 1 each which is Crystal not Crystals.

    There is no exact quantity mentioned so get over it. Pve has a build in mechanic to give you the trait you want just by dropping it pvp does not offer that

    You do realize pvp can get any overland set now just by gambling AP.
  • zyk
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    ZOS will ignore critical set/ability/performance bugs for months, but I bet they hotfix a time sink bug.
  • D0RID0RI240
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    So the issue is every reward for the worthy email is dropping them, 100 percent of the time...

    Not an exploit, but they done went and goofed.
  • BohnT
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    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    BohnT wrote: »
    Cpt_Teemo wrote: »
    On the main webpage where else

    Where Can I Get Transmutation Crystals?

    You can earn Transmutation Crystals from the following activities:

    Guaranteed drops:

    Random Daily LFG
    Undaunted Pledges
    Trial Weekly Quests
    Arena, Trial, and Battlegrounds Leaderboards
    Alliance War Campaign End Rewards
    Your first Rewards for the Worthy in a day
    Maelstrom Arena (Veteran mode only)
    Dragonstar Arena (Veteran mode only)

    Chance to drop:

    Dungeon Final Bosses
    Rewards for the Worthy mails, after your first for the day
    Random LFGs after your first


    https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26221

    Implying CRYSTAL(S) more than 1, but each Random Daily / vet / normal run each give 1 each which is Crystal not Crystals.

    There is no exact quantity mentioned so get over it. Pve has a build in mechanic to give you the trait you want just by dropping it pvp does not offer that

    You do realize pvp can get any overland set now just by gambling AP.

    No one grinds for overland sets they can be bought from the guild vendor. What can't be bought are sets from trials and dungeons and those have to be grinded and that takes for ever.

    RP players are the most ignorant players in this game whenever they hate something they cry about it all the time and want to ruin it. If anyone ruins RP they might get a ban from ZoS because they're the biggest crybabies in the game
  • ClockworkCityBugs
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    so whats the exploit about? just first daily RotW mail on each hero?
  • ClockworkCityBugs
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    ah i see somehow connected with Scout missions? thats why ZOs turned them off?
    cant take any scouting right now? and Scrolls too!
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    Edited by ClockworkCityBugs on October 27, 2017 10:49AM
  • altemriel
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    Sending you a PM @Juhasow.

    and pls hotfix also this

    Shadow Image out of range, locks character out of all actions
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4599399
  • Anazasi
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    CalmFury wrote: »
    You don't need to go into the details of HOW the bug/exploit is done, but without more information it is hard to know what this means.

    You can, for example, say something like this:

    "A normal PvP day would give X amounts for crystals for the first RotW and then subsequent ones during normal play. With this bug, it is possible for a player to get 3x amounts of Crystals in the same timeframe doing the exploit".

    It might be just a completely normal thing that you just didn't know, given how recently this thing is, or it may indeed be a bug if you come in and say you know you can get 200 crystals in 1 hour for example.

    I don't know how to do that but man I sure would be interested in testing it....
  • olivesforge
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    I am appalled that zergs of players can get such rewards merely by playing the game. I promise all of you here, friends and comrades to a man, to never engage in such shameful tomfoolery.
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  • Anazasi
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    Maybe we should take a scroll and farm AP with it. I saw this done the other night and it was interesting to say the least.
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