ESO at 4k 60 FPS high/ultra settings - Best graphics card for the job??

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lahandra
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As the title suggests, I was just hoping for some graphics card feedback from some folks running ESO at 4k resolutions. I would prefer to be able to run the game at 4k, 60 FPS, on high or even better ultra settings. Currently I'm running a quite dated r9 270x and can only get 4k, 30 FPS, on medium settings. I was just wondering if anyone out there could share their results and which cards they are currently using for ESO in 4k? Would a gtx 1070 cut it? Or even something a bit cheaper, say the $2-300 price range? Any input is welcome, thanks in advance.
  • Mentis_Virus
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    ESO is CPU heavy, you will never get 60 FPS all the time.
  • RouDeR
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    I run overclocked i7740x at 4.7 ghz with gtx1080ti
    70-90 fps in Overland zones .
    Dungeons fps is 80-100fps
    IN populated cities 40 -60 fps
    Cyrodiil large zerg fights 30 -40 fps near keeps , open world Cyro zerg fights 50 -70
    This is all on 4k Ultra.
    Edited by RouDeR on October 24, 2017 1:26AM
  • lahandra
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    ESO is CPU heavy, you will never get 60 FPS all the time.

    Yeah, I meant past the normal game limitations.... We all know about the bad engine optimization in ESO, so I realize that at times it just won't be 60 FPS, and that's fine. I basically just wanted an idea of a solid card to upgrade the old one to was all. Thanks for the input though.
  • lahandra
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    RouDeR wrote: »
    I run overclocked i7740x at 4.7 ghz with gtx1080ti
    70-90 fps in Overland zones .
    Dungeons fps is 80-100fps
    IN populated cities 40 -60 fps
    Cyrodiil large zerg fights 30 -40 fps near keeps , open world Cyro zerg fights 50 -70
    This is all on 4k Ultra.

    G2K, although the 1080ti is just a bit outside of my price range. But it's good to know those results, thanks. I kind of figure I'll be going with the 1070 and running on high, hopefully?!?!? Will just have to see. Appreciate the input.
  • SirAndy
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    lahandra wrote: »
    Best graphics card for the job?
    Please let us all know if you find one that fixes server lag ...
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  • Octopuss
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    Forget it.
    Or wait for when they release the suspected Vulkan instead of Dx11 client some time in future.
  • Jayman1000
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    I'm using an gtx690 for 4K and I can get >50 fps most of the time, and often 60 when not near to or in cities. In cities it goes up and down from 25-50 fps depending on location, number of players and whether said players are dueling and casting spells/abilities with particles etc. Even when setting the resolution and quality to a much lower value I will still get considerable fps slowdown in cities. Many players and especially when they use abilities is what lowers fps the most for me.

    Obviously you should probably not buy a gtx690 card ;) but this is just to show you what can be accomplished with an old card. My CPU is i7-3770K 3.50GHz OC to 4.30GHz

    These are my settings. The texture quality is not showing because I have set SET MIP_LOAD_SKIP_LEVELS "-1", which is better than the ULTRA setting that sets it to 0. (solves most of the low res pop in texture issues without creating stutter). Shadows to medium since it gives me 5-10 extra fps compared to the high setting. Unfortunately the shadow draw distance for medium is not far enough, the high setting has good draw distance, but 5-10 fps is too much of a hit to performance. I ahev also used the ini file to lower particles to the minimum amount which greatly helps reduce lag from particles (particles are still visible though).

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    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 24, 2017 7:29AM
  • Goshua
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    Going to start streaming soon to fund an upgrade myself (and then ignore my followers) so useful thread. ty

    /snipe
  • Beastnas
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    GTX 1070 is sufficient for 4k/60fps.

    However, you do need to have a powerful CPU to go with it, no matter the resolution. I upgraded my i5 2500k to i7 7700k and went from sub 40s in Wayrest to 70+.
  • Brumme
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    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstra :) but still )

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
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    Edited by Brumme on October 24, 2017 9:19AM
  • sdtlc
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
    power.....XFX ProSeries P1-850B-BEFX - Black Edition
    watercooled

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    on 4K ...
    Die Qualität verhält sich nicht zwingend proportional zur Masse...

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  • NeroCapelli
    Dont even bother for 60FPS Game isnt designed to achieve that. Prepare to lag bro
  • JasonSilverSpring
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstra :) but still )

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
    power.....XFX ProSeries P1-850B-BEFX - Black Edition
    watercooled

    Microsoft Windows 7 Prof. 64-bit SP1 DK

    So, you have 100 fps even in heavily populated cities and large PVP fights?

    I highly doubt it unless you really reduced draw distance.
  • Egonieser
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    FPS target is hard to achieve, especially in PvP and large cities. As with any MMO - ESO is heavily CPU dependant and poorly optimized at that, GPU plays small part in that.
    I play at 4k most of the time (particle effects/distance turned down) with GTX 1080 and i7 4790k and it makes no slightest bit of difference whether it's 4k ultra or 1440p ultra, or even 1080p ultra. The visuals are not really that demanding to strain the GPU regardless of the setting. In fact it didn't change my FPS at all as the system is technically capable of running the game on best possible settings imaginable but the poor optimization is holding it back.
    It runs the same as on my old system with i5 4590 and GTX 980, no difference whatsoever, so throwing extra horsepower is pointless as it will never get utilized. Other games will benefit, but ESO will not.

    I might get a steady 60+ FPS out in the wilds, but anywhere with lots of interactables, NPC's, players, the FPS dips no matter the system used and changing the resolution will not change anything.

    At this point there is nothing we can do on our end to improve the performance past the peak. I've seen people with systems like mine having same results, people with weaker systems having the same (even my wife on a £470 laptop gets the same FPS in the same situations) and seen people with beastly £3k systems not really pushing much more. Until devs decide to optimize the engine there's not much else to do.
    Edited by Egonieser on October 24, 2017 9:38AM
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  • Jayman1000
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstra :) but still )

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
    power.....XFX ProSeries P1-850B-BEFX - Black Edition
    watercooled

    Microsoft Windows 7 Prof. 64-bit SP1 DK

    aha. 100fps ALL the time. on 4K. on Ultra. In cities with lots of players and fights. Proof or gtfo please.
    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 24, 2017 9:35AM
  • Brumme
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    So, you have 100 fps even in heavily populated cities and large PVP fights?

    I highly doubt it unless you really reduced draw distance.


    i have 100 fps in heavily populated cities, dont know about pvp, since i dont pvp :)
    nope, i dont have reduced anything
  • Jayman1000
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i have 100 fps in heavily populated cities, dont know about pvp, since i dont pvp :)
    nope, i dont have reduced anything

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  • JasonSilverSpring
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    Brumme wrote: »


    i have 100 fps in heavily populated cities, dont know about pvp, since i dont pvp :)
    nope, i dont have reduced anything

    Please post some screenshots with fps displayed. Sorry to sound rude but I just don't believe that is possible.

    I have an i7 5930 at 4.6 GHz and a Titan X Pascal and cannot achieve 100 fps in cities.
    Edited by JasonSilverSpring on October 24, 2017 12:35PM
  • omegatay_ESO
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    ESO is poorly optimized. Very.. As long as you have a decent cpu, and gpu built in the last few years your good to go. I have a i74770k, and a gtx1080i. Most the time the cpu is sitting at 30-70 utilization along with the gpu. Here and there I see frames max out at 99, but not often.
  • lahandra
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    ESO is poorly optimized. Very.. As long as you have a decent cpu, and gpu built in the last few years your good to go. I have a i74770k, and a gtx1080i. Most the time the cpu is sitting at 30-70 utilization along with the gpu. Here and there I see frames max out at 99, but not often.

    It's an I7 3770 3.4 GHz, and I've never seen it taxed regardless of resolution. Even now, at 4k medium with the old video card the CPU sits at about 15%-20% utilization, so that shouldn't be an issue. The only thing suffering at the moment is the R9 270x. As I said before, I totally understand the lag in highly populated areas and realize it's a game optimization issue that can't be compensated for. That's fine, well, fine in the sense that I realize it can't be circumvented, I just wanted a card that was capable of pushing 4k 60 comfortably whenever it was possible. Looks like the 1070 should be a good choice and compromise for price vs. performance. Thanks again guys for all the input and posting of your various results.
  • ConeOfSilence
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    I get better frame rates playing BF1 a newer and more graphical game.
  • FakeFox
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    I personally have a GTX 1080 and it's doing the job quite well. As it was already stated GPU is not that important for ESO. I know people with better GPU that have the same/worse performance then me. So I assume you can go cheaper then a 1080 without any impact.
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  • Kanar
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    GPU does matter at 4k. The thing is you need to intelligently modify your settings, something which a lot of people seem incapable of. Identify the CPU heavy options and reduce them, like particles. For 4k, AA is not needed so you can disable it. Of course in highly populated areas you still might see a CPU bottleneck.

    I use an r9 290 overclocked with an i5, at 4k res. Idling in the wilderness I am at the frame lock at 59 fps. In dungeons it bounces between 30-40. Dolmens can hit the teens.

    Since I use a freesync monitor, my upgrade will be a Vega 64 liquid. If you don't have a freesync monitor, I'd go with a 1080ti or 1080. You will be disappointed with a 1070. Get something with more than 4gb of memory too, it's needed at 4k.
  • Jayman1000
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    Kanar wrote: »
    For 4k, AA is not needed so you can disable it.

    I believe that's a matter of perception. I can clearly see a difference between 4K with and without antialiasing; while 4K definitely helps a whole lot against aliasing, it doesn't disappear and there's a visible difference. You may not be bothered by aliasing on 4K which is fine of course, but I do not agree that AA is not needed for 4K in ESO.
    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 24, 2017 6:46PM
  • Kanar
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    Jayman1000 wrote: »

    I believe that's a matter of perception. I can clearly see a difference between 4K with and without antialiasing; while 4K definitely helps a whole lot against aliasing, it doesn't disappear and there's a visible difference. You may not be bothered by aliasing on 4K which is fine of course, but I do not agree that AA is not needed for 4K in ESO.

    Assuming monitors of the same size (27-28"), 4k res is the same as 1080 4x super sampling AA. Sure I would like to be able to enable some AA but given my current GPU I see better overall quality with more shadows or increasing other setting. The fact is, 4x SSAA is pretty damn good and if you add more on top of that the performance hit will be much larger compared to 1080.

    Of course if your monitor is larger than 28" you will need more AA.
  • Jayman1000
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    Kanar wrote: »
    Assuming monitors of the same size (27-28"), 4k res is the same as 1080 4x super sampling AA.

    Well, it's not exactly the same since with 4K screens the resolution is not downsampled, meaning you don't achieve a downsampled image that gives you smoother transitions from one line of pixels to another along the edges of objects. It's only when that 4K image is actually downsampled to say 1920x1080 that you get the supersampled AA effect; and yes it is very effective for that purpose.

    However lets say we use so called ultra fine monitors that is ~21" monitors with native 4K resolution then the jaggies may be so tiny that they'd be insignificant and thus eliminate the need for AA (I haven't tried this myself, but I'd love to switch out my 1080p 21" monitor with a 21.5" 4K. I don't feel like needing a monitor larger than 21", and native 4K on 21" would be an awesome clear image). On normal 4K screens we are usually talking 27" and unfortunately jaggies are here clearly visible, but of course much much less so than 1920x1080 on native 1080p screens, but still: clearly visible = thus AA still needed imo. On the other hand you might not need much AA.
    Edited by Jayman1000 on October 24, 2017 10:15PM
  • Flowersquisher
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstra :) but still )

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
    power.....XFX ProSeries P1-850B-BEFX - Black Edition
    watercooled

    Microsoft Windows 7 Prof. 64-bit SP1 DK

    not sure i believe this, need proof
    I don't get these numbers on a far superior computer
  • Bluepitbull13
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    Brumme wrote: »
    i play with this very old pc...and i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstra :) but still )

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Extreme
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K
    GF.........ASUS Radeon HD 7990 6GB GDDR5
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1866 CL9 G.Skill RipjawsX (4x4)
    disk.......Samsung SSD - 256GB
    power.....XFX ProSeries P1-850B-BEFX - Black Edition
    watercooled

    Microsoft Windows 7 Prof. 64-bit SP1 DK

    Please show proof, I have pretty much identical setup

    MOBO...ASUS Maximus VI Formula
    CPU..... Intel Core i7-4770K O.C 4.3ghz
    GF.........MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G
    ram.......DDR3 16GB PC 1600 G.Skill RipjawsX
    disk.......2x Samsung SSD - 256GB EVO (1 for O.S 1 for STRICLTY ESO, steam/origin/uplay on a 1TB W.D Black drive)
    power.....Corsair AX850 gold
    Windows 10 64bit Pro

    is it the ram? maybe the O.S
    *preferably a youtube vid of you running around Rawl/Mournhold, or Stormhaven with people there. Pretty sure we would like to see if FPS dips because "i have 100 fps all the time (only on Ulstras:) " is hard to believe
    Edited by Bluepitbull13 on October 24, 2017 11:40PM
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    is ESO even native 4K?
  • Smasherx74
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    When programming a game you want to load things using the GPU because it can handle way more independent processes at once, where as the cpu can only handle a few.

    ESO defies that, even goes as far as to limit our CPUs to one core per process. Such a quality programmed game...
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