Help me understand...

k9mouse

I understand why there is no cross platform between the PC and the consoles. However, why is there no cross platform between Xbox1 and PS4? The hardware is almost the same and both use similar controllers.

theamazingx

Because Sony/Microsoft politics.

k9mouse

not really a hardware reason?

teiselaise

im sure it would be possible, tho its not the hardware thats the problem its the developers of the different platforms

it could even be possible to make cross platforming between console-pc, that depens on the engine tho, i dont know much about it tho games like fortnite have done it ^^ something makes me believe eso engine arent really suited for a lot of stuff tho

Tandor

k9mouse wrote: »

not really a hardware reason?

Still a valid reason. So far as hardware reasons go, there have already been character transfers between PC and console, but only as a single time-limited option for those PC players who pre-ordered console versions. Although I've no idea how the console versions compare, I've no doubt that the attitude of the console platform providers is indeed the main reason for transfers between them not being accepted.

Balamoor

the actual reasons for no Cross platform is

We just don't want to go through the trouble.

SE is currently working on the XB1 version of FFXIV which will make it cross platformed on all systems, so it's not legal, hardware, or software.

it's

/Dev: Guys maybe we should rethink this, that'a a lot of work....lets just tell them it's not possible or blame it on Sony or Microsoft.

Rygonix

This is the same reason patches always come out for console long after they are released for PC. It requires "negotiation" between Microsoft and Sony.

k9mouse

Thanks for helping me to understand my console brothers and sisters. (I am a PC user). While on the subject of consoles, do you think Nintendo Switch can run ESO if ZOS ever go that route. I mean if it plays Skyrim, which is a much heavier game than ESO is, why it can just play ESO?

kyle.wilson

k9mouse wrote: »

Thanks for helping me to understand my console brothers and sisters. (I am a PC user). While on the subject of consoles, do you think Nintendo Switch can run ESO if ZOS ever go that route. I mean if it plays Skyrim, which is a much heavier game than ESO is, why it can just play ESO?

While Bethesda can port and dump another version of Skyrim; I don't think that Nintendo has the base to support the cost of additional servers.
Plus while Skyrim may look better, it doesn't have near as many calculations per second to perform. Such as in dungeons, trials, and pvp.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

At ESO launch in 2014, console release had to be delayed a year because MS/Sony couldnt agree on things with ZoS and each other.
Required Sub was dropped from ESO because 1 console said it would drop it's sub but the other wouldn't. To avoid console players from paying 2 subs, ESO dropped theirs and started the ESO+ system.
Updates take longer for consoles because they have to be approved by both console companies.
It's Microsoft & Sony politics. Not a ZoS conspiracy against console players.
(*Flashbacks to "South Parks" ~ "Black Friday" episodes! lmao...*)

Runschei

Addons would have a major advantage too

k9mouse

Runschei wrote: »

Addons would have a major advantage too

I am just thinking of cross platform between the consoles, and leave the PC out. The KB&M and addons are too much advantage, but the both consoles together will be more fair in terms of game play.

Chrysa1is

I would not want to play cross platform with PC because they use add-ons that are pretty much cheats. PS4 I wouldn't mind, but not PC.

Runschei

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I would not want to play cross platform with PC because they use add-ons that are pretty cheats. PS4 I wouldn't mind, but not PC.

Imagine Miats addon oh dear lord.

SirAndy

theamazingx wrote: »

Because Sony/Microsoft politics.

Has nothing to do with hardware, it would be trivial for them to communicate with a shared mega-server.

It's all corporate politics ...

AoDD33pfri3d

It's Sony and here is why, when they were working on cross platform with minecraft Sony said no because the xbox community is ugly towards each other so they wanted to protect their community from xbox. Now not sure if that was the actual reason or they were just hiding something else.

lagrue

k9mouse wrote: »

I understand why there is no cross platform between the PC and the consoles. However, why is there no cross platform between Xbox1 and PS4? The hardware is almost the same and both use similar controllers.

Good god... the servers hardlly function properly as is... imagine cross play... RIP.

Not to mention the clear unfair advantage in PVP of PC users having addons and consoles not... then also the complete market crash it would bring for all 3 systems as we all confusedly try to adjust to eachother.

No, no, no. Bad idea is bad.

lagrue

theamazingx wrote: »

Because Sony/Microsoft politics.

Not really valid... several crossplaying games have released of late. Does't change that this wouldn't work for ESO for a plethora of other reasons.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

A long time ago, Microsoft tested a cross platform game. Xbox and PC. PC players wiped the floor with the console peasants. Part of the reason there is no cross platform play is because of that. Other than that its politics, money, lots of extra coding and server issues with no real monetary incentive for the companies.

wenchmore420b14_ESO

Chrysa1is wrote: »

I would not want to play cross platform with PC because they use add-ons that are pretty much cheats. PS4 I wouldn't mind, but not PC.

This is not true. (With the exception of Miats, which I wish ZoS would ban).
I run about 40+ add ons.
7-10 are to help with running my guild, Mass Mailings, roster modifications, etc.
10+ are QoL, Lorebooks, Map Destinations, Provisioning organizers, etc..
Several are for housing and homestead use..
Several are for UI enhancement, fonts, etc...
And the rest are for gear and quick slot management, gear set organizers, etc..
None of my 40 - 50 add ons can even slightly be considered cheating.
Add Ons are not "Cheats". They are just QoL tools...
Huzzah!!!

Chronicburn

$$$$

zaria

lagrue wrote: »

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theamazingx wrote: »

Because Sony/Microsoft politics.

Not really valid... several crossplaying games have released of late. Does't change that this wouldn't work for ESO for a plethora of other reasons.

Of late, it was not an option then ESO for consoles was under development.

It probably make patching a bit easier for ZoS so they are just happy.

Sneaky-Snurr

k9mouse wrote: »

not really a hardware reason?

It's due to pretty much what @theamazingx said.
It can be messy to explain it here and I'm in short of free time but just know that it's all because of that.

starkerealm

k9mouse wrote: »

not really a hardware reason?

In this case it's explicitly a Sony reason. They don't want their players interacting with XBox players at all.

Microsoft will allow cross platform play now. Sony will allow multiplatform play, but only if there's no XBox players involved. (Used to be, they both had a hard line at, "nope, only ours and PC," and I seem to recall both used to restrict it to the point that you couldn't have cross platform content if the game released to the other console at all.)

But, no, this has never been a hardware limitation. It's strictly corporate politics.

starkerealm

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

A long time ago, Microsoft tested a cross platform game. Xbox and PC. PC players wiped the floor with the console peasants. Part of the reason there is no cross platform play is because of that. Other than that its politics, money, lots of extra coding and server issues with no real monetary incentive for the companies.

Shadowrun? Yeah, PC players had an advantage, but were a tiny fraction of the playerbase as a whole.