Brk PC EU Vivec 10/10/17

GeorgeBlack

"EotS" is an unti zerg tool. yeah right.

Here's what organized PvP means. Spamming 1-2 buttons and running around.
thumbs up.

Humphie

Insightful

soll

Awesome

GeorgeBlack

agree

MLRPZ

ZS sends their regards

Rin_Senya

sounds like you just got farmed

Lieblingsjunge

ZS is one day back on AD-side. This happens. GG. Thank you.

Sanct16

For everyone who doesn't know what happend:

ZS farmed a 60 man+ EP zerg inside BRK for 80 minutes. Thanks for the AP.


(Picture taken on support sorc, we killed aot more ppl than that)

Feanor

182:1 with 176k AP in an hour. Priceless.

GeorgeBlack

What are you gonna go with it all?

Sanct16

Feanor wrote: »

182:1 with 176k AP in an hour. Priceless.

Was on support sorc with no damage, so was much more kills actually.

Feanor

You should have left the initial screenshot. The ultimate group counter looked interesting. Any chance you guys pay the EP in Sotha a visit on your AD chars next time?

GeorgeBlack

Zerg is the EP players that sieged BRK like the game was designed to be played.
And the ugliness of running around spamming AoE skills with EotS is called ESO organized PvP, I take it.

Interesting fact about that BRK siege.
Pop cap for DC AD. Not for EP

Yet the map at is mostly red atm
Casual PvP is casual in this game.
You'reWelcomeFortheAP. Not like there's any purpose for them anymore. No progression

Sanct16

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Zerg is the EP players that sieged BRK like the game was designed to be played.
And the ugliness of running around spamming AoE skills with EotS is called ESO organized PvP, I take it.

Interesting fact about that BRK siege.
Pop cap for DC AD. Not for EP

Yet the map at is mostly red atm
Casual PvP is casual in this game.
You'reWelcomeFortheAP. Not like there's any purpose for them anymore. No progression

The map was red because we left brk to kill blues for a while.

killimandrosb16_ESO

wait let me get this straight; So you farmed the underpopulated and weakest factions PUG's together with your friends the overpopulated and strongest faction for a good hour? Is that it? And now you want a cookie? Now can I ask why you did it? yes you will get tears and salty replies from EP, but meanwhile the faction is bleeding players to Sotha Sil. Take a look at SS and see what happened over there when EP did exactly the same thing; on a good day yellows and blues have 2 bars while reds are poplocked. Best reply so far is the one suggesting you head over to SS for a good weeks. Could save both servers you know, and youre probably gonna find better challenges from reds over there. If thats what you want of course...

Rin_Senya

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

wait let me get this straight; So you farmed the underpopulated and weakest factions PUG's together with your friends the overpopulated and strongest faction for a good hour? Is that it? .

No. We farmed at EU prime time EP faction (that was locked) being a 14 men group. And there were not only pugs there but some of EP guilds too.

GeorgeBlack

Rin_Senya wrote: »

killimandrosb16_ESO wrote: »

wait let me get this straight; So you farmed the underpopulated and weakest factions PUG's together with your friends the overpopulated and strongest faction for a good hour? Is that it? .

No. We farmed at EU prime time EP faction (that was locked) being a 14 men group. And there were not only pugs there but some of EP guilds too.

Basically u were abusing a bad combat design, namely no CD on skills/heal outperforms inc dmg which leads to players spamming 1-2 buttons: healers spamming heal while walking around, dps spamming dmg, while walking around, Tanks spamming igneous shield, while walking around.
In addition you shamelessly used EoTS on CD and just walked back and forth.
No individual skill. No organizational skill.
You didn't aimed for our healers, u didn't nuke our dps, you didn't bash/CC specific targets. You justs ESOAoEd everything by spamming 1-2 skills depenting on your role.

While we, the zerg as you called us, sieged the castle, breached 2 sides. and tried to flip the flags(which we did at one point. How did u manage to give us enough time to stay on top of a flag, despite all your AoE, I will never know). None of that matters though. It's not your fault. This game is poorly made when it comes to player vs player.

The real question is.. why would you play so boringly? for AP? What do you need them for at this point.....
Map is still red last time i checked

MLRPZ

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Basically u were abusing a bad combat design, namely no CD on skills/heal outperforms inc dmg which leads to players spamming 1-2 buttons: healers spamming heal while walking around, dps spamming dmg, while walking around, Tanks spamming igneous shield, while walking around.

Aren't the healers supposed to heal, the DD supposed to damage and the tanks supposed to tank ? With your state of mind, no wonder you get bamboozled every single time =/
As far as I know, you use those mechanics aswell or are we not playing the same game ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

In addition you shamelessly used EoTS on CD and just walked back and forth.

If only it was that simple then why didn't you kill us ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

No individual skill. No organizational skill.

Then how did we came out on top ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

You didn't aimed for our healers, u didn't nuke our dps, you didn't bash/CC specific targets. You justs ESOAoEd everything by spamming 1-2 skills depenting on your role.

We killed everyone of you, result is the same.
I'll go back to point 1, why are your healers unable to use the "bad combat design, namely Heal outperforms inc dmg" ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

While we, the zerg as you called us, sieged the castle, breached 2 sides.

Good job, still not enough.

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

tried to flip the flags(which we did at one point. How did u manage to give us enough time to stay on top of a flag, despite all your AoE, I will never know).

We need to refresh continuous attack at some point, and give you a little bit hope before we crush you again

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

The real question is.. why would you play so boringly? for AP? What do you need them for at this point.....
Map is still red last time i checked

To collect salt and tears

GeorgeBlack

MLRPZ wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Basically u were abusing a bad combat design, namely no CD on skills/heal outperforms inc dmg which leads to players spamming 1-2 buttons: healers spamming heal while walking around, dps spamming dmg, while walking around, Tanks spamming igneous shield, while walking around.

Aren't the healers supposed to heal, the DD supposed to damage and the tanks supposed to tank ? With your state of mind, no wonder you get bamboozled every single time =/
As far as I know, you use those mechanics aswell or are we not playing the same game ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

In addition you shamelessly used EoTS on CD and just walked back and forth.

If only it was that simple then why didn't you kill us ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

No individual skill. No organizational skill.

Then how did we came out on top ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

You didn't aimed for our healers, u didn't nuke our dps, you didn't bash/CC specific targets. You justs ESOAoEd everything by spamming 1-2 skills depenting on your role.

We killed everyone of you, result is the same.
I'll go back to point 1, why are your healers unable to use the "bad combat design, namely Heal outperforms inc dmg" ?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

While we, the zerg as you called us, sieged the castle, breached 2 sides.

Good job, still not enough.

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

tried to flip the flags(which we did at one point. How did u manage to give us enough time to stay on top of a flag, despite all your AoE, I will never know).

We need to refresh continuous attack at some point, and give you a little bit hope before we crush you again

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

The real question is.. why would you play so boringly? for AP? What do you need them for at this point.....
Map is still red last time i checked

To collect salt and tears

The point.











Your head.
Thumps up.

MLRPZ

What did I miss then ?

GeorgeBlack

That nobody cares

kkravaritieb17_ESO

If you don't care why did you even start this thread? Irony much

GeorgeBlack

kkravaritieb17_ESO wrote: »

If you don't care why did you even start this thread? Irony much

Maybe it was too subtle for you.
"Zerg busting" skills are zerg tools.

MLRPZ

Much salt not much logic

Hexys

The amount of stupid players has increased so much, sorry to say but almost nobody has any room for respect or admiring anymore.

Let me explain:
A few years back a players actions in a competitive way was admired, asked for details as you would want to improve yourself, yes improve yourself. To many players right now already think they reached 10/10 while in actuality they just sit at 6/10 but don't want to accept this.

Every player can improve, become dedicated, all I can say is that those guild-leaders out there should motivate their players more and be together to look for improvement. But no, almost every guild performs exactly the same as times before with the only 3 improvements being (1. more people more fun) (2. next keep pvp aka zerging with pugs) or (3. sneak, sneak, sneak with pugs and then go 24 man ulti dump).

From my point of view as a old leader of Astrum Herois I motivated myself to become a good leader, not by moving my group in Cyrodiil but creating a family of good players willing to improve towards the group in becoming something more then just going to the next keep. After a while we got asked to GvG which we hadn't done before and found out there wasn't even a challenge for us until we met Banana Squad (zerg squad at the time) who was viewed as top guild. My intentions weren't even to win but to see what we can do and how to beat them, and the fights went really 50/50 and were tons of fun.

To come back to yesterday, the last few days PvP was boring, to much sieging, to much empty keeps and not much enemies. So Sanct decided that we would go to AD Vivec again just to see. Maybe Drachen Garden is a challenge, maybe the other new guilds there were a challenge, but no it wasn't at all. I can guarantee you that 5 players working together and time their ultimate's properly is able to make a big difference in Zerg Squad VS Alliance, instead of writing, crying negative words go make a damn change and find ways to improve!

To come back @GeorgeBlack about 'the map went red', be sure to understand that if Zerg Squad's intentions is to win the map, the color will always be in their favor, you know why? Because we want it and do it, we improve ourselves and dedicate it to make this difference. So all I can say to those hating against good players, look at yourself, you can do it to, just dedicate!

Asmael

Farming organised groups: How to

1. Pick a strong instant AoE hard CC ability, such as Dawnbreaker of Smiting, Take Flight, Soul Tether... Extra points for having decent burst
2. Snares and roots are irrelevant, because these groups have (a) dedicated Rapids and Purge spammer(s), so don't bother with those
3. Get mobility (major expedition + snare removal) on your build. Tankiness is mostly irrelevant, if you get caught in the destro ults, you'll die regardless
4. Bait the organised group into starting a destro train by following them (but not too close), then quickly move to the sides as you see the red circles of d00m
5. Drop the AoE hard CC on anyone part of the organised group who is a bit behind and let the PuGs finish the job. You'll not kill the entire group in one go, just kill 1-3 of them every time until there aren't enough left
6. If you really want to use a siege for some reason, a well-timed CHB stone trebuchet is the deadliest weapon for one such group (no fire ballistas, see point 2) , but using it is an absolute PITA and will only work in very specific locations, where the group's movement is limited (such as tower resource)
7. Such groups tend to dispatch a NB to drop a camp when they are about to wipe. Expect them to come back.

Yes, it requires awareness, patience and proper timing, but that's what makes the difference between being able to farm them or getting farmed.

Sanct16

Maybe you should look up what "zerg" means?

Feanor

If the EP really were the usual 80 we also see on Sotha Sil ... I dunno what's funnier. The fact they wiped over and over or the blame ZS "shamelessly" used skills.

olsborg

ZS should go to the more empty camps like shor (wich are dominated by zergy dc vs nothing) and make a difference there, whenever they are on vivec, the camp just laggs 100% more then usual and it goes from "almost enjoyable" to "logg off" and game over for that night.

MLRPZ

the game is laggy anyway, may it be before, during or after our raids. We even get blamed for lagging campaigns we are not on.
For sure we add lag with the amount of players we fight at the same time but we're not the only one responsible for it


Shor would just be boring for us as the populations are not even close of what we consider a good fight.

LarsS

The Zerg Squad do deserve respect, it is very hard to do what they are doing. It requires very good teamplay where everyone have a specific task and the right setup.

There is however many players who for various reasons, cant be that dedicated. Still those who want to learn should join one of the existing pvp guilds, there is to many who dont have a clue on how to play when they try out pvp. We try to help people to learn team based pvp by inviting them to our guild raids, there is only two requirements use teamspeak and do your best to follow the raidleader. Many join the guild and evolve to good pvp players.

To sum up if you want to fight the ZS learn how to play and accept that Cyro is designed for teamplay pvp.