Radiant Glory

vpy

Is this spell any good ?
It looks good on paper (330% dmg at <50% health kinda like spell version of reverse Slash) but is it really good for Mag plars ?

AzraelKrieg

Practically necessary on a magplar.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

quick note, it is "up to" 330% damage to mobs under 50%, you will only get the whole 330% damage at <1%, the damage is linear, ie 3.3% more damage at 49% and 165% more damage at 25% and so on.

the long and the short of it, if you are a straight dps mag temp, with a healer all the time, use the other morph of radiant glory, radiant oppression, the one with extra damage scaling based on how much max magic you have left, for all other uses, the extra healing from glory is better at least as far as i have used both morphs.

Destruent

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

quick note, it is "up to" 330% damage to mobs under 50%, you will only get the whole 330% damage at <1%, the damage is linear, ie 3.3% more damage at 49% and 165% more damage at 25% and so on.

the long and the short of it, if you are a straight dps mag temp, with a healer all the time, use the other morph of radiant glory, radiant oppression, the one with extra damage scaling based on how much max magic you have left, for all other uses, the extra healing from glory is better at least as far as i have used both morphs.

The other morph adds like 500dmg/per tick atm bc the scaling is completely messed up. Better to use Radiant Glory for some heals....

on a sidenote: i don't think it scales linear, but can't prood anything

lasertooth

It’s nickname is “the Jesus beam” if that helps make it clear how awesome of a skill it is

Destruent

lasertooth wrote: »

It’s nickname is “the Jesus beam” if that helps make it clear how awesome of a skill it is

This skill is good at best, but far away from awesome. You missed a lot of nerfs.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Destruent wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

quick note, it is "up to" 330% damage to mobs under 50%, you will only get the whole 330% damage at <1%, the damage is linear, ie 3.3% more damage at 49% and 165% more damage at 25% and so on.

the long and the short of it, if you are a straight dps mag temp, with a healer all the time, use the other morph of radiant glory, radiant oppression, the one with extra damage scaling based on how much max magic you have left, for all other uses, the extra healing from glory is better at least as far as i have used both morphs.

The other morph adds like 500dmg/per tick atm bc the scaling is completely messed up. Better to use Radiant Glory for some heals....

on a sidenote: i don't think it scales linear, but can't prood anything

I am aware of that, that is why I very specifically stated that unless you are a straight DPS, don't use that morph. Considering as dps, 500 more per tick is still wanted, all the extra damage you can get is wanted. Think if it this way, 500 more a tick is 2.5% more DPS when you are doing 20k dps and 1.6% when you are doing 30k, I have seen dps go crazy over less.

It does scale linearly, lol, you say you can't prove it but you still state it doesn't. God why do I bother posting anything.

Hempyre

It used to be good, but the whiners got it nerfed. If you spec full damage it's not bad... Spec for survivability, not so much.

I took it off my bar.

With the current tanky healer meta in pvp it's pretty useless. Channel ticks that snare you as the caster, leaving you an easy target and it's easily out healed.

Still a must in pve though.

Destruent

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

quick note, it is "up to" 330% damage to mobs under 50%, you will only get the whole 330% damage at <1%, the damage is linear, ie 3.3% more damage at 49% and 165% more damage at 25% and so on.

the long and the short of it, if you are a straight dps mag temp, with a healer all the time, use the other morph of radiant glory, radiant oppression, the one with extra damage scaling based on how much max magic you have left, for all other uses, the extra healing from glory is better at least as far as i have used both morphs.

The other morph adds like 500dmg/per tick atm bc the scaling is completely messed up. Better to use Radiant Glory for some heals....

on a sidenote: i don't think it scales linear, but can't prood anything

I am aware of that, that is why I very specifically stated that unless you are a straight DPS, don't use that morph. Considering as dps, 500 more per tick is still wanted, all the extra damage you can get is wanted. Think if it this way, 500 more a tick is 2.5% more DPS when you are doing 20k dps and 1.6% when you are doing 30k, I have seen dps go crazy over less.

It does scale linearly, lol, you say you can't prove it but you still state it doesn't. God why do I bother posting anything.

You could have proved it yourself, but anyway...tested it and found it to scale linearily, so all good.

Your numbers are flawed, you calculated like you would only doing radiant, but in fact it's like 500 dps more 10% of the time (that's more or less the time you spend beaming during a fight iirc), so we are talking about 50DPS more IF you have 100% magicka all the time.

Belyar

If you want to do any relevant damage in dungeons/trials it is a must have. Magplars are not in the best spot ATM, I'd say they are the second or third weakest magicka DPS class.

WillhelmBlack

I use the heal morph for PvP. Still hits hard under 20% health.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Destruent wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Destruent wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

quick note, it is "up to" 330% damage to mobs under 50%, you will only get the whole 330% damage at <1%, the damage is linear, ie 3.3% more damage at 49% and 165% more damage at 25% and so on.

the long and the short of it, if you are a straight dps mag temp, with a healer all the time, use the other morph of radiant glory, radiant oppression, the one with extra damage scaling based on how much max magic you have left, for all other uses, the extra healing from glory is better at least as far as i have used both morphs.

The other morph adds like 500dmg/per tick atm bc the scaling is completely messed up. Better to use Radiant Glory for some heals....

on a sidenote: i don't think it scales linear, but can't prood anything

I am aware of that, that is why I very specifically stated that unless you are a straight DPS, don't use that morph. Considering as dps, 500 more per tick is still wanted, all the extra damage you can get is wanted. Think if it this way, 500 more a tick is 2.5% more DPS when you are doing 20k dps and 1.6% when you are doing 30k, I have seen dps go crazy over less.

It does scale linearly, lol, you say you can't prove it but you still state it doesn't. God why do I bother posting anything.

You could have proved it yourself, but anyway...tested it and found it to scale linearily, so all good.

Your numbers are flawed, you calculated like you would only doing radiant, but in fact it's like 500 dps more 10% of the time (that's more or less the time you spend beaming during a fight iirc), so we are talking about 50DPS more IF you have 100% magicka all the time.

K.

NiclasFridholm

Belyar wrote: »

If you want to do any relevant damage in dungeons/trials it is a must have. Magplars are not in the best spot ATM, I'd say they are the second or third weakest magicka DPS class.

It really isnt a must have. If you have a DPS of 40K it is a loss to beam at 5%+ health so it is pretty useless atm...

Belyar

NiclasFridholm wrote: »

Belyar wrote: »

If you want to do any relevant damage in dungeons/trials it is a must have. Magplars are not in the best spot ATM, I'd say they are the second or third weakest magicka DPS class.

It really isnt a must have. If you have a DPS of 40K it is a loss to beam at 5%+ health so it is pretty useless atm...

40k with mageplar? What year is it, 2015?

itscompton

This skill is great for finishing off people at or below 10% health, especially shield spammers with no burst healing skills. They can double ward up to 20K worth of shields but Radiant's damage scales up and burns right through both shields if they're at really low health. On the flip side even though the skill is listed as "Instant" there is a very noticeable delay in damage caused by the lengthy skill animation of pulling your arm back and then thrusting it forward before the beam starts and people with a decent burst heal will almost always heal out of execute range before the damage actually hits them. If someone can get from 10% up to 20% health the damage from Radiant goes from 5-7K per tick down to 2-2.5K per tick. Casting it on anyone above 20% health is a total waste of magic.

MilwaukeeScott

As a Healer, Radiant Glory and Channel Focus are my home. I never leave my home.

Jeremy

vpy wrote: »

Is this spell any good ?
It looks good on paper (330% dmg at <50% health kinda like spell version of reverse Slash) but is it really good for Mag plars ?

It's not as good as it used to be.

But it's still good. I would definitely pick it up as a Templar to finish off weakened enemies with.

maxjapank

I've had mixed results using Radiant Oppression in pvp when it comes to shields. Even at low health, when someone pops a shield, I feel like my Radiant is barely tickling them. Sometimes feel like I'm not getting the full execute value with shields. Anyone know something about this?

Joy_Division

maxjapank wrote: »

I've had mixed results using Radiant Oppression in pvp when it comes to shields. Even at low health, when someone pops a shield, I feel like my Radiant is barely tickling them. Sometimes feel like I'm not getting the full execute value with shields. Anyone know something about this?

You're right that RD isn;t very good Vs. shields. I think the damage is calculated correctly, it's just that a sorcerer's spammable shields are larger than the damage RD outputs so it's a losing proposition for a templar.