One time faction change

crowfl56

I have read the threats on this topic and still would like to post my thoughts.

I beleive a one time faction change, per charactor, would be a great bonus point of the game in its self.

First, it would be for the ESO Plus members only.

You would have a, pvp only, timer of 12 hrs blocking your ability to join a campaign, after a faction change.

In pve that would not be needed.

I know of quite a few people on the NA PC that would luv this ability.

geonsocal

why only eso plus members?

VaranisArano

The benefit of an alliance change token would be greatest for players who made characters before One Tamriel. I PVP solely as EP, but because my main DPS is a Breton who I made before One Tamriel, she will forever be a DC toon and sees very little use in Cyrodiil PVP.

However, ZOS has already provided the Any Race, Any Alliance upgrade for those who wish to use races outside of their traditional alliance. Naturally, this requires a new character to be made, thus increasing the playing time. So, I don't that ZOS will grant a Faction Change token any time soon.

PlagueSD

umm, just roll an alt. MUCH easier.

VaranisArano

PlagueSD wrote: »

umm, just roll an alt. MUCH easier.

Actually, no. Not in Cyrodiil PVP for one reason: you need a fast horse. The closer you are to max speed and max stamina on your mount, the easier it is to ride to fights in Cyrodiil which is a huge zone compared to any other zone. A new character has to either spend crowns to raise mount speed and stam quickly or spend 60+ days to get their speed maxed.

Deheart

VaranisArano wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

umm, just roll an alt. MUCH easier.

Actually, no. Not in Cyrodiil PVP for one reason: you need a fast horse. The closer you are to max speed and max stamina on your mount, the easier it is to ride to fights in Cyrodiil which is a huge zone compared to any other zone. A new character has to either spend crowns to raise mount speed and stam quickly or spend 60+ days to get their speed maxed.

I agree with @VaranisArano s point, I was going to say there is no point to changing factions but I realized that honestly with or without elitism, in order to really play pvp you do need a fast mount with high stamina. I would say stamina is more important, with speed a close 2nd, so at least 3-4 months of mount training required in order to just keep up with a group.

TheShadowScout

My thoughts on faction change remain unchanged...

...I would prefer if they made it a guild-sized DLC questline, with a "spycraft" theme, and a "loyalty called ini question" story, where you get to make a big choice - keep your character loyal and find the real traitor who framed you, or defect to a different alliance. With the rest of the quest different depending on your choice. You could even get nifty titles at the end... like "[original faction] Loyalist" or "[original faction] Defector"... and quite obviously, such a questline could not be repeated, so it would automatically be a "one time" change.

There could even be PvP effects... like, defectors only earning half AP for a couple months, and being worth triple AP if killed by their original faction, perhaps even a daily quest to hunt down a traitor, with a marker pointing them out for their former comrades on the battlefield while that quesat was active... you know, like...

disintegr8

As someone who doesn't live and breath PVP, I am not that much into the whole faction thing.

I rolled characters in all alliances before 1T because that was the only way to go through the different alliance quest zones before you reached Cadewells silver/gold.

I can see there would be people trying to take advantage of swapping factions, maybe swap from a bad alliance to a successful one for the spoils and such. To this end, any option to switch would have to be restricted to like once only, or once every 6 or 12 months.

A restriction on campaign participation could also be considered, so that you can't switch in the middle of a campaign to get any sort of advantage. People wanting to switch for valid reasons would be happy with these sort of restrictions.

Serjustin19

PlagueSD wrote: »

umm, just roll an alt. MUCH easier.

13 Alts I have. Getting a pain. We do need alliance change token, but for everyone.

KingMagaw

It will come in time, for 5k crowns per character most likely, it is just a matter of time.

This happened in another game i played and tbh it destroyed it. Majority re-rolled to the strongest side like newbs which totally unbalanced the game. Doing this would force others who like to play as the underdog/actually PvP with some sort of skill not hugging a zerg which ESO caters to anyway to re-roll to the other side. A lot would quit rather than being forced to pay the crown charge to change alliance they never wanted to in the first place.


Rolling an alt, is very time consuming, i have 14 characters and i know. Mage guild books?, the thought melts my head thinking about doing it again.

RANKK7

Yes, a ONE TIME only change would be needed.
I have 2 characters pve only, they never entered ava location because I cannot change faction. When I started playing I wasn't aware it was impossible to change later on, I even thought "any alliance any race" would allow. By now they are fully leveled and not going to delete them, a one time change would be much appreciated.

Dojohoda

Faction change, zos, do it, make it happen.

SydneyGrey

TheShadowScout wrote: »

There could even be PvP effects... like, defectors only earning half AP for a couple months, and being worth triple AP if killed by their original faction, perhaps even a daily quest to hunt down a traitor, with a marker pointing them out for their former comrades on the battlefield while that quesat was active...

Brilliant idea, except for the marker part. I'd love if defectors earned half AP for a couple of months (so long as it wasn't permanent) and were triple AP if killed by their original people.

idk

Alliance change probably does not make good business sense. Zos already made it easy to level a new character and can probably make more $$$ from those willing to spend it on horse upgrades and XP scrolls.

Slick_007

so you've read the threads on this topic, you know they exist and yet you create a new one so all the opinions can either be seperated or duplicated. well done.
no

JerzeeDevil

Get good! QQ

Play well on all characters within the Alliance that YOU selected your toon for!

Discipline, in regards to logging on EVERY DAY and training YOUR mounts,...Account-wide.

It's not realllllly all that difficult.

Laziness, I suppose?! :'(

RANKK7

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Get good! QQ

Get lost! QQ

Play well on all characters within the Alliance that YOU selected your toon for!

Sure, I will play in an Alliance I thought I could have changed later on and never played in it so far, because you say so!

Discipline, in regards to logging on EVERY DAY and training YOUR mounts,...Account-wide.

Thx for the terrific tip, I never thought about it,... Are you ok if I buy riding lessons from the Store or you don't like that?

It's not realllllly all that difficult.

realllllly Yeah.

Laziness, I suppose?! :'(

Entitled much, I suppose?! :'(

jcaceresw

VaranisArano wrote: »

PlagueSD wrote: »

umm, just roll an alt. MUCH easier.

Actually, no. Not in Cyrodiil PVP for one reason: you need a fast horse. The closer you are to max speed and max stamina on your mount, the easier it is to ride to fights in Cyrodiil which is a huge zone compared to any other zone. A new character has to either spend crowns to raise mount speed and stam quickly or spend 60+ days to get their speed maxed.

Not counting all the achievements, zones explored and quest finished you may have done on an alt.

So the idea of re roll is not a option. @ZOS give us the alliance change token please.

IcyDeadPeople

Doesn't need to be ESO plus nor one time only, just make it a relatively expensive crown store item, and have it strip you of any alliance rank along with associated skill points.

If someone out there wants to waste a lot of money switching their alliance multiple times, I don't have a problem with it, as long as they are dropping back down to recruit rank each time, losing caltrops, vigor, etc.

jcaceresw

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

If someone out there wants to waste a lot of money switching their alliance multiple times, I don't have a problem with it, as long as they are dropping back down to recruit rank each time, losing caltrops, vigor, etc.

I assume you mean those skills get blocked again until I reach the required PVP level without losing the progress I may have done with them (I already have morphed and maxed them).

IcyDeadPeople

jcaceresw wrote: »

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

If someone out there wants to waste a lot of money switching their alliance multiple times, I don't have a problem with it, as long as they are dropping back down to recruit rank each time, losing caltrops, vigor, etc.

I assume you mean those skills get blocked again until I reach the required PVP level without losing the progress I may have done with them (I already have morphed and maxed them).

Yep I imagine it would be similar to how vampirism/ ww skill line works if you cure it.

JerzeeDevil

RANKK7 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Get good! QQ

Get lost! QQ

Play well on all characters within the Alliance that YOU selected your toon for!

Sure, I will play in an Alliance I thought I could have changed later on and never played in it so far, because you say so!

Discipline, in regards to logging on EVERY DAY and training YOUR mounts,...Account-wide.

Thx for the terrific tip, I never thought about it,... Are you ok if I buy riding lessons from the Store or you don't like that?

It's not realllllly all that difficult.

realllllly Yeah.

Laziness, I suppose?! :'(

Entitled much, I suppose?! :'(

Where, anywhere,... did anyone say that you could change Alliances?

As for the rest, yeah. Especially paying real world money (Crowns) to level your horses. ZOS will reward you handsomely with exceptional RNG in game!

Back on topic....Everyone else can do it,...Except snowflakes! SMH

:'(

RANKK7

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

RANKK7 wrote: »

JerzeeDevil wrote: »

Get good! QQ

Get lost! QQ

Play well on all characters within the Alliance that YOU selected your toon for!

Sure, I will play in an Alliance I thought I could have changed later on and never played in it so far, because you say so!

Discipline, in regards to logging on EVERY DAY and training YOUR mounts,...Account-wide.

Thx for the terrific tip, I never thought about it,... Are you ok if I buy riding lessons from the Store or you don't like that?

It's not realllllly all that difficult.

realllllly Yeah.

Laziness, I suppose?! :'(

Entitled much, I suppose?! :'(

Where, anywhere,... did anyone say that you could change Alliances?

As for the rest, yeah. Especially paying real world money (Crowns) to level your horses. ZOS will reward you handsomely with exceptional RNG in game!

Back on topic....Everyone else can do it,...Except snowflakes! SMH

:'(

Where, anywhere,... someone completely new to a game should know everything about? At any rate that's my personal case, there are other users with different motivations and none of these is your business, if someone want to change alliance it's not like you must approve.

About the rest, I do horses training every day and I'm still free to buy lessons if I like, whatever you think about.
Don't worry about my rng, it's obvious I still have fun playing this game despite the many flaws, otherwise I wouldn't be here. I don't know about you.

Back on topic... even if your posts are not worthy of a reply, I replied because your "on topic" was: "Get good", "play well" "discipline" and other nonsense in a thread like this; I won't do it further.

Slick_007

the only way id be ok with something like this is they make it like 20,000 crowns. and then you can do it as much as you like

RANKK7

Slick_007 wrote: »

the only way id be ok with something like this is they make it like 20,000 crowns

20k crowns? No more no less to be ok with you?
That's delusional wish as far as I am concerned, for such crazy price they can keep it.
Btw, good to know, someone else with delirious suggestions?

Slick_007

RANKK7 wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

the only way id be ok with something like this is they make it like 20,000 crowns

20k crowns? No more no less to be ok with you?
That's delusional wish as far as I am concerned, for such crazy price they can keep it.
Btw, good to know, someone else with delirious suggestions?

you mean other than this thread? i was only continuing it.
you guys dont like the decisions you made and want ZOS to fix your poor choices when they already give you a way to do that: alts.
if they are going to have to spend a tonne of time fixing YOUR mistakes, the least they can do is charge you out the wazzoo for doing so.

RANKK7

Slick_007 wrote: »

RANKK7 wrote: »

Slick_007 wrote: »

the only way id be ok with something like this is they make it like 20,000 crowns

20k crowns? No more no less to be ok with you?
That's delusional wish as far as I am concerned, for such crazy price they can keep it.
Btw, good to know, someone else with delirious suggestions?

you mean other than this thread? i was only continuing it.
you guys dont like the decisions you made and want ZOS to fix your poor choices when they already give you a way to do that: alts.
if they are going to have to spend a tonne of time fixing YOUR mistakes, the least they can do is charge you out the wazzoo for doing so.

Are you serious? If you didn't notice there are tokens already to fix mistakes, but yeah let's get rid of them all because you say so and don't approve. Lol, take a look at the Store sometimes.
This is getting kind of entertaining but I'm not interested to read other nonsense. Farewell.

htmnmr4747b14_ESO

It should've been done a long while ago. They also need to make everything account wide instead of just on your one toon...Blizzard did it and it worked great. The way this company does anything is an insult as hardly any of it is done for the benefit of the players.

degarmo_ESO

accidental necro

SugaComa

Simple solution ... As you can enter PvP at level 10 ... Why not just grant full steam and speed on all mounts in cyrodil

That way the making an alt isn't an issue

jaschacasadiob16_ESO

geonsocal wrote: »

why only eso plus members?

Because we keep the game up and running. So we deserve this. And Elfbetta delivered home.

Anyway, just buy the damn Imperial upgrade. And think about it when you create a char.