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What happened to all the Stam DKs?
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Barely run into them anymore in pvp that aren't block-tards. I don't see how blocking is any fun.
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✭✭✭✭✭Stam DKs have been nerfed to a place where tankier builds with fast ult gen is the easiest to play. You can still see some people doing 2H builds though and can deliver some serious burst.0 -
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✭Block-StamDKs that runs HA - they exist. And they hit you with 15k+ leaps when they've blocked and tanked 10 people for 30 seconds.
StamDKs are completely balanced, I promise. (Well, stamDKs are balanced. The sets they're running ain't).Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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✭✭✭✭✭Barely run into them anymore in pvp that aren't block-tards. I don't see how blocking is any fun.
It's not fun, but it's the only thing a Stam DK can do in PvP that a Stam warden can't do better. We're pretty much forced into it by the current balance.PC NA - @dazkt - Dazk Ardoonkt / Sir Thogalot / Dask Dragoh’t / Dazk Dragoh’t / El Thogardo
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✭✭✭StamDKs get strong when dealing with groups. Like their whole shtick is take and block damage to get ult/heal/weapon damage. And then burst in leaps.
Outside of that they have low damage when fought solo, (quite tanky, but less so.) or when part of a group. (No utility and requires attention for damage.) I feel like the permablock aspect needs to be toned down, in exchange for utility, but this is definitely how DKs should be.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭Medium armor dk reporting in.
I can survive 5+ people hammering on me.
Thanks to tava,werewolf and shield ulti on demand lol
How many block cost reductions u running?0 -
Ocelot9x✭✭✭✭✭Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »
No one,i run sword and shield as a back bar to proc werewolf and to use shield ult in those "ohsh*t" moments0 -
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✭They're all meta humping the stam warden class running around a tree or rock spamming tree ultimates"Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."2 -
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✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »They're all meta humping the stam warden class running around a tree or rock spamming tree ultimates
That's what you get when a class gets nerfed into the ground and pidgeon-holed into an unenjoyable playstyle4 -
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✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »They're all meta humping the stam warden class running around a tree or rock spamming tree ultimates
I barely see any Stam wardens in PvP. Stamblade and Stam dk are the most popular Stam classes by a country mile on Xbox EU.Edited by Brrrofski on September 29, 2017 11:16AM0 -
Ocelot9x✭✭✭✭✭UppGRAYxDD wrote: »They're all meta humping the stam warden class running around a tree or rock spamming tree ultimates
I barely see any Stam wardens in PvP. Stamblade and Stam dk are the most popular Stam classes by a country mile on Xbox EU.
Just wait some time, ps4eu everyone is rolling a stam warden0 -
Ariades_swe✭✭✭✭✭Stam warden starts to become quite popular on ps4 EU. I see them much more then mag warden at the moment. I know several magdens who switched to stam. Overall whole class pretty rare though.Edited by Ariades_swe on September 29, 2017 1:23PM0
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Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »
No one,i run sword and shield as a back bar to proc werewolf and to use shield ult in those "ohsh*t" moments
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Lieblingsjunge wrote: »Block-StamDKs that runs HA - they exist. And they hit you with 15k+ leaps when they've blocked and tanked 10 people for 30 seconds.
StamDKs are completely balanced, I promise. (Well, stamDKs are balanced. The sets they're running ain't).
instead ....the cancer-build-block-dk magicka are ok ! all right ! ...(with some magicka builds you have 16k of stamina only for block + 5 pieces sturdy ( gold ) some heavy attack +pot+ultimate and tanking 10 people for 20 minutes .. balanced
Cancer class/build now are magicka not stamina
Ok but nerf set of stam dk !
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Jawasa✭✭✭@melloni_aleb16_ESO magdk heals are to weak to tank several players. Stamdk are much worse with vigor They dont even need rally anymore instead forward momentum.1
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@melloni_aleb16_ESO magdk heals are to weak to tank several players. Stamdk are much worse with vigor They dont even need rally anymore instead forward momentum.
in pvp ? ..are you kidding me ?
Cancerous class now are Dkm and templar in heavy played with the right build....and with a reasoned use of the mist form and LOS
all phenomena with dks , then I see them dying in 4 seconds in pvp
it is also thanks to these comments that this game will never be balancedDC|EP|AD EU .:. Claymore - all classes DK/Sorc/Nb/templar .: Retired :.
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✭✭✭✭@melloni_aleb16_ESO magdk heals are to weak to tank several players. Stamdk are much worse with vigor They dont even need rally anymore instead forward momentum.
What game are you playing?
Stam DK can't just heal with vigor and magica DKs healing is off the charts if you build yourself right.0 -
Jawasa✭✭✭Then you have a bad stamdk build. I play on PC EU. I much prefer going up agains magdk over stamdk. What I will give dk both magicka and stamina is that they lack a place in group play in smaller groups they work ok especially stam but in a group of 6+ you are probably better of with another class.
Roll yourself a stamdk argonian with seventh legion, ritual mundus, vitality pots and malubeth or blood spawn. But it's better now after the fix on befoule exploit cp buffing self heals. Still extremely tanky with great burst.
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Against bad ones, yes, but not good ones. Mag DKs don't have to let go of the block button to kill you. Stam DKs do. Mag DKs don't have to let go of block to heal themselves with coagulating, embers, or whip. Stam DKs have to bar swap to get that rally heal.Then you have a bad stamdk build. I play on PC EU. I much prefer going up agains magdk over stamdk. What I will give dk both magicka and stamina is that they lack a place in group play in smaller groups they work ok especially stam but in a group of 6+ you are probably better of with another class.
Roll yourself a stamdk argonian with seventh legion, ritual mundus, vitality pots and malubeth or blood spawn. But it's better now after the fix on befoule exploit cp buffing self heals. Still extremely tanky with great burst.
In No CP, Stam DKs have an advantage. But in CP, Mag DKs are beasts that are only really rivaled by Stam wardens.
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Against bad ones, yes, but not good ones. Mag DKs don't have to let go of the block button to kill you. Stam DKs do. Mag DKs don't have to let go of block to heal themselves with coagulating, embers, or whip. Stam DKs have to bar swap to get that rally heal.Then you have a bad stamdk build. I play on PC EU. I much prefer going up agains magdk over stamdk. What I will give dk both magicka and stamina is that they lack a place in group play in smaller groups they work ok especially stam but in a group of 6+ you are probably better of with another class.
Roll yourself a stamdk argonian with seventh legion, ritual mundus, vitality pots and malubeth or blood spawn. But it's better now after the fix on befoule exploit cp buffing self heals. Still extremely tanky with great burst.
In No CP, Stam DKs have an advantage. But in CP, Mag DKs are beasts that are only really rivaled by Stam wardens.
I disagree In the sense of a solo player. I agree in the sense of a dueler. Mag DKs are beast at dueling right up there with Mag NB and Mag Sorc. I can heal better on Stam DK however. Vigor igneous rally is better than coag. Burning embers requires a target and is hard sometimes when focused by multiple people. Once my ulti is up and I have turtled enough people i can burst better on Stam DK too.1 -
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✭✭✭✭Then you have a bad stamdk build. I play on PC EU. I much prefer going up agains magdk over stamdk. What I will give dk both magicka and stamina is that they lack a place in group play in smaller groups they work ok especially stam but in a group of 6+ you are probably better of with another class.
Roll yourself a stamdk argonian with seventh legion, ritual mundus, vitality pots and malubeth or blood spawn. But it's better now after the fix on befoule exploit cp buffing self heals. Still extremely tanky with great burst.
Ok, you have a pointless build. I see.
I was talking about healing on builds that can actually kill people.0 -
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✭Jjitsuboy98 wrote: »
Against bad ones, yes, but not good ones. Mag DKs don't have to let go of the block button to kill you. Stam DKs do. Mag DKs don't have to let go of block to heal themselves with coagulating, embers, or whip. Stam DKs have to bar swap to get that rally heal.Then you have a bad stamdk build. I play on PC EU. I much prefer going up agains magdk over stamdk. What I will give dk both magicka and stamina is that they lack a place in group play in smaller groups they work ok especially stam but in a group of 6+ you are probably better of with another class.
Roll yourself a stamdk argonian with seventh legion, ritual mundus, vitality pots and malubeth or blood spawn. But it's better now after the fix on befoule exploit cp buffing self heals. Still extremely tanky with great burst.
In No CP, Stam DKs have an advantage. But in CP, Mag DKs are beasts that are only really rivaled by Stam wardens.
I disagree In the sense of a solo player. I agree in the sense of a dueler. Mag DKs are beast at dueling right up there with Mag NB and Mag Sorc. I can heal better on Stam DK however. Vigor igneous rally is better than coag. Burning embers requires a target and is hard sometimes when focused by multiple people. Once my ulti is up and I have turtled enough people i can burst better on Stam DK too.
Healing is better on a mag DK. There's no point even argueing that because the major mending duration nerf had a much bigger effect on builds relying on HoTs (vigor) instead of burst heals (dragon blood). You can simply get more mileage out of major mending on a magicka DKEdited by Valencer on September 30, 2017 9:06AM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, plus many Mag DKs will backbar resto..
Or at least they used to. Now that I think about it, I don't see that as much as I used to.
But the main thing with Mag DKs is the permablock behind shield. Stam DKs heal with Stam, which doesn't regen when blocking.. plus rally obviously doesn't allow a shield...
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Jawasa✭✭✭@Brrrofski If you cant kill people with that build it's on you. Just learn how to set up burst. Just seventh is over 600 weapon dmg in total and that's just one set.0
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Jjitsuboy98✭✭✭✭@Brrrofski If you cant kill people with that build it's on you. Just learn how to set up burst. Just seventh is over 600 weapon dmg in total and that's just one set.
I have 4200 weapon damage with that setup.0