Enlightenment Pisses Me Off

Luthid

Admittedly, the title is dramatic for effect, and this isn't a big deal. But it does annoy me.

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic, and great for allowing casual players to keep up. But I have 970 CP. I can quit the game for 2 1/2 years, and still be above the cap when I come back. Yet every night when I log in, I am enlightened. There's just no reason for this. Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?

Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

Reverb

Agreed

Aisle9

How can you get annoyed by a buff ?

Unless it's because of the frustration of stockpiling a resource you will never be able to use and kinda hope you will keep in not being able to use, or the game will break...

Ok, now I get it...

Axoinus

Not sure why you are annoyed by this since it doesn't hurt you. But hey, whatever.

But I agree. If you are above the CP cap there e should be some sort of scaling "De-enlightenment" where your accumulation of CPXP slows to a crawl.

Banana

Go for 1000 CP. Thats what the cool kids have

Maikon

Why, because the CP cap is actually 3600, you just can't use it.

essi2

Axoinus wrote: »

Not sure why you are annoyed by this since it doesn't hurt you. But hey, whatever.

But I agree. If you are above the CP cap there e should be some sort of scaling "De-enlightenment" where your accumulation of CPXP slows to a crawl.

This would also gimp peoples feeling of progression and would lead to people not playing the game as much or at all if they are above the CP cap.

FriedEggSandwich

Luthid wrote: »

Admittedly, the title is dramatic for effect, and this isn't a big deal. But it does annoy me.

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic, and great for allowing casual players to keep up. But I have 970 CP. I can quit the game for 2 1/2 years, and still be above the cap when I come back. Yet every night when I log in, I am enlightened. There's just no reason for this. Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?

Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

So at 970cp your enlightenment gets you what, 20% of a cp?

TequilaFire

Axoinus wrote: »

Not sure why you are annoyed by this since it doesn't hurt you. But hey, whatever.

But I agree. If you are above the CP cap there e should be some sort of scaling "De-enlightenment" where your accumulation of CPXP slows to a crawl.

There is, a CP costs me almost a million XP now and climbing, that is how they slow it.
One days enlightenment of 400k doesn't even buy a CP anymore.
But what would XP be good for if CP advancement was taken away at cap?

Inarre

Why not just take the buff for the off chance eso gives a massive cp cap raise?

Storymaster

Luthid wrote: »

Admittedly, the title is dramatic for effect, and this isn't a big deal. But it does annoy me.

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic, and great for allowing casual players to keep up. But I have 970 CP. I can quit the game for 2 1/2 years, and still be above the cap when I come back. Yet every night when I log in, I am enlightened. There's just no reason for this. Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?

Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

@Luthid
Dude.... being Enlightened is awesome. Appreciate that you have awakened to the truths of the Universe and that your mind is not a dark cavern of ignorance, causing you to manifest every aspect of your worst fears and knee-jerk pre-programmed emotional reactions into the reality around you, as your thoughts serve as the nexus of emanation for everything you experience.

Defilted

Leaving the buff as is does not affect game play at all for anyone over the current usage cap. Asking for a change in a no-impact area is a bad use of resources. I would rather them spend time in the areas of Engame -PVE and PVP. I would like to see time spent in GUI development. XBOX players so no addons. I understand that GUI dev is not a universal need so it being back burner makes sense to me.

Chronicburn

I didn't even know you are allowed to have that in a title ... I better not ... I'm on the naughty list

Jayman1000

Luthid wrote: »

Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?
Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

They never bothered to code in a limit for the enlightenment? I mean, why should they, it wouldn't help you or change anything in any way. Also, this way they could reserve the possibilty of raising the cp cap some day, and then people like you should/will be happy that they got to earn a lot of extra cp? I think you should see it as a potentially good thing, not an annoyance.

idk

I don't really pay attention to it other than laugh about getting another CP.

luen79rwb17_ESO

I am 970+ CP and I'm very happy to get my enlightenment. CP would feel too grindy otherwise at these levels.

There's a slight sense of progression, the bonus rate helps a bit and yet it's less of a half of 1 CP

Grymmoire

Luthid wrote: »

Admittedly, the title is dramatic for effect, and this isn't a big deal. But it does annoy me.

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic, and great for allowing casual players to keep up. But I have 970 CP. I can quit the game for 2 1/2 years, and still be above the cap when I come back. Yet every night when I log in, I am enlightened. There's just no reason for this. Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?

Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

Well imho, the current system is far better then them either removing it or having a diminishing return.

Just be thankful they didn't implement a system wherein one loses cp or worse, as one gets to some predefined number beyond the current usage, the cp rolls backwards every night, forcing you to constantly play a certain number of hours a day or suffer going toward zero cp again.

Of course then some Crown shop item could be introduced tom restore lost cp; now wouldn't that be a hoot!?

Mojmir

Enlightenment should boost your luck with RNG lol

jcaceresw

I wish @ZOS remove the enlightenment cap. Currently its 13 days but I haven't played the game in more than a month and it's a waste of enlightenment out there specially when a double xp event is nearby.

Storymaster

jcaceresw wrote: »

I wish @ZOS remove the enlightenment cap. Currently its 13 days but I haven't played the game in more than a month and it's a waste of enlightenment out there specially when a double xp event is nearby.

@jcaceresw
What double XP event?

Trinity_Is_My_Name

Thought I had seen it all....till now.

Nestor

I lol every time I get enlightened as it is only half a bar for me (CP889)


However, what gets my goat is, my enlightenment starts every night at 7:04PM, by which time I have already played 2 hours and I am in the puttering around not earning exp part of the gaming session.

Nestor

Storymaster wrote: »

What double XP event?

@Storymaster

Witches Festival is one of the events that provide something in game that can double the EXP you earn. Usually some potion or cake you eat. It also stacks with other in game exp multipliers like scrolls or grouping etc.

There are a few of these in the year.

Storymaster

Nestor wrote: »

I lol every time I get enlightened as it is only half a bar for me (CP889)


However, what gets my goat is, my enlightenment starts every night at 7:04PM, by which time I have already played 2 hours and I am in the puttering around not earning exp part of the gaming session.

@Nestor
Amen, Brotha'!

Loc2262

I've heard lots of complaints about this game and people explaining what they are annoyed about. Often it's understandable. But why on Earth would you be annoyed by this cute XP buff?

If it's just about the message: Okay, I can understand it slightly then. If you're on PC, take a look a the addon "No Thank You", which has an option to suppress the enlightenment message.

Danksta

I have over 800 CPs and very much like the enlightenment that I get. Helps when leveling skill lines/morphs on alts.

generalmyrick

Luthid wrote: »

Admittedly, the title is dramatic for effect, and this isn't a big deal. But it does annoy me.

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic, and great for allowing casual players to keep up. But I have 970 CP. I can quit the game for 2 1/2 years, and still be above the cap when I come back. Yet every night when I log in, I am enlightened. There's just no reason for this. Why does the Enlightened state exist for people well above the cap?

Does anyone else get annoyed by this?

i like enlightenment for my above cp character = i feel like a little event is going on every day! ;-)

dotme

Danksta wrote: »

I have over 800 CPs and very much like the enlightenment that I get. Helps when leveling skill lines/morphs on alts.

Exactly. Of all the things in this game that could use changes, Enlightenment is way, way down on the list. It's incredibly useful on alts.

FriedEggSandwich

Mojmir wrote: »

Enlightenment should boost your luck with RNG lol

That sounds like a great idea.

jcaceresw

Storymaster wrote: »

jcaceresw wrote: »

I wish @ZOS remove the enlightenment cap. Currently its 13 days but I haven't played the game in more than a month and it's a waste of enlightenment out there specially when a double xp event is nearby.

@jcaceresw
What double XP event?

The Witches Festival that will begin this thursday.

starkerealm

Luthid wrote: »

Enlightenment is a great CP catch-up mechanic...

Except, it's not. It's a anti-grind mechanic. Enlightenment was designed to keep a player who spends 16 hours a day at their keyboard grinding Spellscar from being 16x as powerful as a player who puts in an hour a night. (Yes, I know the actual difference would be more like 4% or 5% more powerful, still the idea holds.) Which was a much more valid concern when CP was an uncapped system.

The catch up mechanic is CR get cheaper with each increase to the cap. A character trying to earn their 600th CP before Morrowind hit would have needed about 700k, while after Morrowind released it dropped to somewhere around 300k for that same champion point. There's a sharp jump when you move from the level cap to past it (usually around 200k on that point, and then the regular increases from there on.) That's the catch up mechanic. The low CP are stupidly cheap now, to the point that players are talking about being able to hit CR160 in fairly short order.

Once the CP cap hit, the need for enlightenment became... kinda dubious. I suppose there's still reasons to disincentivize grinding, and it does serve (kinda) as a log in bonus. (If you don't log in for 12 days, any enlightenment after that is wasted.)

Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about enlightenment. I kinda wish it was the other way round, ironically. With players getting an XP bonus for their non-50s, based on the number of level 50s they had.