What's wrong with my Toon: Can you help?

Jigger_allard

What’s wrong? Besides my Breton Magicka Sorceress Toon, Arianna Ahearn, being such a ……. weakling? I just moved up to Level 20 and she still fights like she is level one. She can’t run 50 yards without running out of Stamina. In addition, her Magicka wains after a one-time pass through the bar.

Bar:

Mage’s Wrath | Force Pulse | Haunting Curse | Crystal Fragments | Clanngear | Overload

Bar 2:

Blockade of Fire | Lightning Splash | Haunting Curse | Force Pulse | Clannfear | Overload

My Crappy Armor:

Head: Light / Level 10 / 284 Max Health
Shoulders: Medium / Level 16 / 190 Max Stamina
Gloves: Light / Level 8 / 126 Max Magicka
Sash/Belt: Light / 14 / 190 Max Magicka
Boots: Light / Level 15 / 210 Max Magicka
Chest: Heavy / Level 15 491 Max Health
Legs: Light / Level 19 166 Max Stamina
Necklace: (I forget)

I realize the above armor is putrid, but I have to rely on drops because my cash-on-hand is only 850 Gold. Hardly enough to purchase the proper armor. Moreover, I also realize that the above two bars are not ideal either but those are what I am stuck with until I can level up more. In addition, I am also trying to level up my Crafting skills but the process borders on tedium. In the meantime, I am struggling to stay in the game.

In closing, I am well aware that people have helped with setting up a proper Breton Magicka Sorceress in a previous thread. Therefore, I know what I need to do but getting there is becoming an extremely painful process. Anyway, I really do appreciate you all taking the time to read my thread. I hope I haven’t bored you—especially when others have expressed the same thing. Again, thank you.

Regards,

***_allard

(NA Server)

witchdoctor

You know what, I am about to go craft level 30 gear for my alts. I'll make a set of level 20 gear for you.

I see one fire destro bar; what's your preference for main bar?

I'll warn you, I am motif-poor, so, it'll be in Breton style.

If your @name is different from your forum name, please give it to me.

I'll craft it in the next 30 minutes or so from this post.

witchdoctor

@***_allard

I'm off to craft, so, if I don't see this I'll be making you 2x fire destro staves.

I'll need a name to mail them to.

witchdoctor

Oh ... by NA I do hope you mean NP PC ... lol

Jigger_allard

witchdoctor wrote: »

@***_allard

I'm off to craft, so, if I don't see this I'll be making you 2x fire destro staves.

I'll need a name to mail them to.

witchdoctor wrote: »

@***_allard

I'm off to craft, so, if I don't see this I'll be making you 2x fire destro staves.

I'll need a name to mail them to.

@***_allard

Beardimus

^ Forum helpfullness kicking ass!

Right level set gear will make you a huge difference dude.

dpencil1

@***_allard
I feel like we already covered this stuff in your previous thread.
1. Stop spending points on crafting at low levels. Go to the respec shrine in a capitol city. Take all points out of crafting. First select enough active skills so the you're not uselessly double barring things like Curse and Force Pulse. The only thing that gets multi-barred is pets and/or Bound Aegis. After you have a full set of unique skills on your bars, get ALL of the Light Armor passives (and make sure to be wearing at least 5 pieces of Light armor at all times). This will help your sustain a bunch. Next get good looking passives in your class trees and the destro staff tree.
2. Get a lightning staff and heavy attack with it. It does great damage, aoe damage once you unlock the appropriate destro passive, and will regen your magicka a bunch when you use it.
3. You should have gear that completes sets. 5 Julianos would be a good baseline. You can build another set from stuff that drops in quest content if you want. All would be best enchanted with Max Magicka.
4. Unlock Boundless Storm and use that to move fast on foot. Otherwise get a horse and use it. As a Mag character, you should not expect to have a lot of Stamina.

Around level 35-40 you should begin to have more points than you really need for skills and passives. That is the time to start putting points into crafting. Never ever sacrifice a valuable skill point for crafting unless:
A. You have a bunch of skill points and have nowhere else to usefully put them.
B. Your character is a dedicated crafting Alt and will not actually engage in combat.

Jigger_allard

dpencil1 wrote: »

@***_allard
I feel like we already covered this stuff in your previous thread.
1. Stop spending points on crafting at low levels. Go to the respec shrine in a capitol city. Take all points out of crafting. First select enough active skills so the you're not uselessly double barring things like Curse and Force Pulse. The only thing that gets multi-barred is pets and/or Bound Aegis. After you have a full set of unique skills on your bars, get ALL of the Light Armor passives (and make sure to be wearing at least 5 pieces of Light armor at all times). This will help your sustain a bunch. Next get good looking passives in your class trees and the destro staff tree.
2. Get a lightning staff and heavy attack with it. It does great damage, aoe damage once you unlock the appropriate destro passive, and will regen your magicka a bunch when you use it.
3. You should have gear that completes sets. 5 Julianos would be a good baseline. You can build another set from stuff that drops in quest content if you want. All would be best enchanted with Max Magicka.
4. Unlock Boundless Storm and use that to move fast on foot. Otherwise get a horse and use it. As a Mag character, you should not expect to have a lot of Stamina.

Around level 35-40 you should begin to have more points than you really need for skills and passives. That is the time to start putting points into crafting. Never ever sacrifice a valuable skill point for crafting unless:
A. You have a bunch of skill points and have nowhere else to usefully put them.
B. Your character is a dedicated crafting Alt and will not actually engage in combat.

I haven't allocated any skill points into Crafting. Those that are there were placed there from crafting.

"After you have a full set of unique skills on your bars, get ALL of the Light Armor passives (and make sure to be wearing at least 5 pieces of Light armor at all times)."

The above I knew already. As for obtaining Julianos gear I have not found any in drops nor can I afford to purchase any. As for respecting I cannot afford it. But thanks for the tips.

dpencil1

@***_allard
I think you would find many players generous and willing to help you if you would ask. Especially if you join a guild and ask in guild chat. Someone would absolutely spot you the money to do a skill respec. It can't be much more than about 1000 gold at your level. As for Julianos, it is not a dropped set. It is a crafted set. Again, if you tell people you are struggling and need a low level set of Julianos, someone will likely craft it for you at no charge.

Regarding crafting points. You do start with the 1st rank in crafting, but that's not a point you would get back by respecing. If you have never put points into crafting then you may be fine as far as that goes, but you still may need to respec if you don't have enough points to get 2 full bars of unique active abilities before spending them on other stuff. Most of your skills are good, just drop the unnecessary duplicates.

Hippie4927

***_allard wrote: »

dpencil1 wrote: »

@***_allard
I feel like we already covered this stuff in your previous thread.
1. Stop spending points on crafting at low levels. Go to the respec shrine in a capitol city. Take all points out of crafting. First select enough active skills so the you're not uselessly double barring things like Curse and Force Pulse. The only thing that gets multi-barred is pets and/or Bound Aegis. After you have a full set of unique skills on your bars, get ALL of the Light Armor passives (and make sure to be wearing at least 5 pieces of Light armor at all times). This will help your sustain a bunch. Next get good looking passives in your class trees and the destro staff tree.
2. Get a lightning staff and heavy attack with it. It does great damage, aoe damage once you unlock the appropriate destro passive, and will regen your magicka a bunch when you use it.
3. You should have gear that completes sets. 5 Julianos would be a good baseline. You can build another set from stuff that drops in quest content if you want. All would be best enchanted with Max Magicka.
4. Unlock Boundless Storm and use that to move fast on foot. Otherwise get a horse and use it. As a Mag character, you should not expect to have a lot of Stamina.

Around level 35-40 you should begin to have more points than you really need for skills and passives. That is the time to start putting points into crafting. Never ever sacrifice a valuable skill point for crafting unless:
A. You have a bunch of skill points and have nowhere else to usefully put them.
B. Your character is a dedicated crafting Alt and will not actually engage in combat.

I haven't allocated any skill points into Crafting. Those that are there were placed there from crafting.

"After you have a full set of unique skills on your bars, get ALL of the Light Armor passives (and make sure to be wearing at least 5 pieces of Light armor at all times)."

The above I knew already. As for obtaining Julianos gear I have not found any in drops nor can I afford to purchase any. As for respecting I cannot afford it. But thanks for the tips.

@***_allard I am not ingame right now but tomorrow I can craft Julianos for you. I have the stations at my house. When we are both ingame, visit my primary residence and I will hook you up.

bebynnag

i dont know if this has alredy been covered, but it is a good idea for you as a magic sorc to level your characters in rivenspire doing delves, dolmens & the public dungeon

a set called necropotence drops there and it is REALLY good on a magic pet sorc, the traits you drop arent important at the moment but fitting it around the julianus people have offered to make you will benefit you tremendously

do the dolmes (anchors) for jewelry,
belt & boots from delves
gloves, shoulders & weapons from public dungeon
head, chest, legs & weapons from world bosses


crafting
clothing, blacksmithing & woodworking
just concentrate on researching for now & deconstruct any intricate pieces you loot
enchanting deconstruct any glyphs you loot
alchemy i use this site http://www.sunshine-daydream.us/ESO/alchemy.html (its awesome for leveling alchemy)
provisioning, loot urns/backpacks/containers for recipies learn what you can sell what you already know in guild traders/zone, stockpile as many ingredients as you can (easy if you have a craftbag)
EDT for this note (once you find yourself with spare skill points you can begin to assign them as you see fit)

making money
if you have the dark brotherhood DLC aquire blade of woe
go on a killing spree (making sure you remain undetected) loot the corpses, pop to an outlaw refuge - instant profit

alternativley break into homes in the base game, loot the drawers/cabinets (making sure you remain undetected), pop to an outlaw refuge - instant profit (launder any cooking ingredients you find for provisioning)

spending one skillpoint will more than double your fencing limit while it is not a priority at the momnet for all the reasons @dpencil has stated once you find yourself with at the stage where you do have spare points, this should be a priority spend as it will more than double your daily income

Tandor

Make sure you have picked up skill points by unlocking all the skyshards in all three alliance starting islands. If you need more skill points then unlock more skyshards in all the alliance initial zones as well. There's no reason post One Tamriel not to have enough skill points at any stage of the game including putting some in crafting if you want to make your own stuff as you level up.

witchdoctor

@***_allard

That user name does not appear on NA PC. I need your '@ name' in-game.

I have made 5-piece Julianos, and 3-piece Seducer, over a 5 light, 1 heavy, 1 medium set, plus 2 fire destro staves, all blue with blue enchants, and some purple food.

I just need a name to mail it to.

altemriel

***_allard wrote: »

What’s wrong? Besides my Breton Magicka Sorceress Toon, Arianna Ahearn, being such a ……. weakling? I just moved up to Level 20 and she still fights like she is level one. She can’t run 50 yards without running out of Stamina. In addition, her Magicka wains after a one-time pass through the bar.

Bar:

Mage’s Wrath | Force Pulse | Haunting Curse | Crystal Fragments | Clanngear | Overload

Bar 2:

Blockade of Fire | Lightning Splash | Haunting Curse | Force Pulse | Clannfear | Overload

My Crappy Armor:

Head: Light / Level 10 / 284 Max Health
Shoulders: Medium / Level 16 / 190 Max Stamina
Gloves: Light / Level 8 / 126 Max Magicka
Sash/Belt: Light / 14 / 190 Max Magicka
Boots: Light / Level 15 / 210 Max Magicka
Chest: Heavy / Level 15 491 Max Health
Legs: Light / Level 19 166 Max Stamina
Necklace: (I forget)

I realize the above armor is putrid, but I have to rely on drops because my cash-on-hand is only 850 Gold. Hardly enough to purchase the proper armor. Moreover, I also realize that the above two bars are not ideal either but those are what I am stuck with until I can level up more. In addition, I am also trying to level up my Crafting skills but the process borders on tedium. In the meantime, I am struggling to stay in the game.

In closing, I am well aware that people have helped with setting up a proper Breton Magicka Sorceress in a previous thread. Therefore, I know what I need to do but getting there is becoming an extremely painful process. Anyway, I really do appreciate you all taking the time to read my thread. I hope I haven’t bored you—especially when others have expressed the same thing. Again, thank you.

Regards,

***_allard

(NA Server)

dou you have any sets on you ?

TheShadowScout

***_allard wrote: »

What’s wrong? Besides my Breton Magicka Sorceress Toon, Arianna Ahearn, being such a ……. weakling? I just moved up to Level 20 and she still fights like she is level one. She can’t run 50 yards without running out of Stamina. In addition, her Magicka wains after a one-time pass through the bar...

Its normal that Sorceresses who spend all their time with their nose in books learning spells will be winded after even a short run. That's why they usually invest in a good horse as soon as they can...

As for the magic bar... that casting spell after spell will exhaust your mystic energy reserves should come as no surprise either. It can be helpful to alternate spell castings with fully charged heavy attacks from your staff to recover magica... and wear light armor only to take full advantage of the light armor magica support passives! And choose your damage spells carefully to get the best result for your magica... some are better then others, others have special effects that help in special situations... -know- your character skills!

Also, a mage should take advantage of CC spells to keep the pesky melee fighters away while you whittle them down with your magic. Used in the right combinations, you can have a "flawless victory" when you stop your opponents in their tracks so often they are dead before they reach melee range (well, trash mobs anyhow, won't work on minibosses since they usually are CC immune - but alternating CC spells and heavy attacks can make for quite some effective combo against weaker opponents!)

Also, DoT & HoT spells (like a certain one you can get in the mages guild skill line) can be quite helpful in getting you through fights without feeling underwhelmed by your efforts, as can the "blood magic" passive in the dark magic skill line...

Gear... fuggedaboudit. At level 20, you will replace your gear all too quickly, so go with your quest reward drops and whatever fits with those, and learn what works for you, plan your way to which set you will want to go after once you reach the CP160 cap.

Skills, as has been said, play through the mainstory and spend those skill points on combat skills, then raise your crafting when you grab the skill points from cadwells... taking the early time to start up on your research for the equipment craft lines, that takes long enough anyhow.

AnnieBeGood

What do you mean she runs out of stamina after 50 yards? If you are trying to sprint fast all the time this WILL happen. Just run normally. It will continue to happen too as she is magica based and not stamina....

Buy riding lessons BEFORE you get a horse.... otherwise you will run faster than you can ride. 250 gold per day from the stable masters.. once you get to about 25% it may be worth getting a horse.

Hippie4927

@witchdoctor His forum name is his ingame @name. Not sure why it doesn't come up for you. I was going to make armor for him but you went to all that trouble so, maybe, try again.

witchdoctor

Weird. OK, Ill try again now

witchdoctor

@Hippie4927 '@***_allard' doesn't give me any results. I stop getting results at '@jigg'

Hippie4927

witchdoctor wrote: »

@Hippie4927 '@***_allard' doesn't give me any results. I stop getting results at '@jigg'

@witchdoctor Capitalize the 'J'

witchdoctor

Nope. This is PC NA, right??

Hippie4927

witchdoctor wrote: »

Nope. This is PC NA, right??

Yes.

witchdoctor

Well, OP, send a mail to @the.witchdoctor and Ill reply with your gear.

Jigger_allard

witchdoctor wrote: »

@Hippie4927 '@***_allard' doesn't give me any results. I stop getting results at '@jigg'

Hippie4927 wrote: »

witchdoctor wrote: »

@Hippie4927 '@***_allard' doesn't give me any results. I stop getting results at '@jigg'

@witchdoctor Capitalize the 'J'

TheShadowScout wrote: »

***_allard wrote: »

What’s wrong? Besides my Breton Magicka Sorceress Toon, Arianna Ahearn, being such a ……. weakling? I just moved up to Level 20 and she still fights like she is level one. She can’t run 50 yards without running out of Stamina. In addition, her Magicka wains after a one-time pass through the bar...

Its normal that Sorceresses who spend all their time with their nose in books learning spells will be winded after even a short run. That's why they usually invest in a good horse as soon as they can...

As for the magic bar... that casting spell after spell will exhaust your mystic energy reserves should come as no surprise either. It can be helpful to alternate spell castings with fully charged heavy attacks from your staff to recover magica... and wear light armor only to take full advantage of the light armor magica support passives! And choose your damage spells carefully to get the best result for your magica... some are better then others, others have special effects that help in special situations... -know- your character skills!

Also, a mage should take advantage of CC spells to keep the pesky melee fighters away while you whittle them down with your magic. Used in the right combinations, you can have a "flawless victory" when you stop your opponents in their tracks so often they are dead before they reach melee range (well, trash mobs anyhow, won't work on minibosses since they usually are CC immune - but alternating CC spells and heavy attacks can make for quite some effective combo against weaker opponents!)

Also, DoT & HoT spells (like a certain one you can get in the mages guild skill line) can be quite helpful in getting you through fights without feeling underwhelmed by your efforts, as can the "blood magic" passive in the dark magic skill line...

Gear... fuggedaboudit. At level 20, you will replace your gear all too quickly, so go with your quest reward drops and whatever fits with those, and learn what works for you, plan your way to which set you will want to go after once you reach the CP160 cap.

Skills, as has been said, play through the mainstory and spend those skill points on combat skills, then raise your crafting when you grab the skill points from cadwells... taking the early time to start up on your research for the equipment craft lines, that takes long enough anyhow.

Incidentally, my forum name is my in-game name: "***_allard." (I have about five different Toons going right now.)

I have noticed that unless you have your staff in-hand and are using it you cannot use any of your other skills?!? For example, if I come in contact with the enemy I cannot just mash....activate the Mage's Wrath.....key #1.....without first having my staff in-hand and using it.

Moreover, I have difficulty mashing this key, in a recommended sequence, followed by that key and then the other key........ I tend to hurriedly and repeatedly mash all of the keys---1 through 5-- while pressing the left mouse button to fire the staff. That and trying to shuck-and-jive to avoid getting nailed by the opponent. Which also means taking my eyes off of the keyboard to watch the action on the monitor. It is all almost like being a drummer wherein both hands and feet are playing different beats simultaneously. And, that takes a heck of a lot of practice. I know because I played the drums when I was a kid. Furthermore, I was never good at it. Unlike my father, I was no Gene Krupa. Like everything else in life, it is a learning curve.

Thank you all for your input. It is really much appreciated.

witchdoctor

@***_allard , I made you a set of gear. That name does not resolve for me. You have either somehow managed to ignore me, or there is a bug.

Send an ingame mail to @the.witchdoctor if you want this gear.

Jigger_allard

witchdoctor wrote: »

@***_allard , I made you a set of gear. That name does not resolve for me. You have either somehow managed to ignore me, or there is a bug.

Send an ingame mail to @the.witchdoctor if you want this gear.

I sent you an in-game email along with 1000 in gold for the armor.

witchdoctor

I got the mail, returned it, and have sent you the gear. I hope it helps!

Jigger_allard

witchdoctor wrote: »

I got the mail, returned it, and have sent you the gear. I hope it helps!

I really appreciate it, thanks!

Davor

Beardimus wrote: »

^ Forum helpfullness kicking ass!

Right level set gear will make you a huge difference dude.

Makes me want to play after a week long break from being tired from work. Really nice to see positivity in the forums instead of negativity for a change.

VaranisArano

The others are helping with gear, so I'll focus on your skill use.

Elemental Blockade and Liquid Lightning are your stationary DOTs (damage over time) that also function as AOEs (area of effect). They go down either on the mob or where you expect the mob to go. These deal constant but lower levels of damage as long as the mobs are inside their AOE and need to be refreshed when or before they run out. If possible, these should always be active. I start every fight with these on my MagSorc.

Force Pulse is your spammable. It does a good amount of single target damage and can be weaved with heavy attacks easily for extra damage. If you spam this without also using heavy attacks to regain magicka, you will run out of magicka quickly.

The Clannfear should be tanking at least one enemy for you You can target the clannfear with a heavy attack or the Y key for pet commands, at least on PC. If you need more damage, you might switch to the volatile familiar. If you need heals, you might switch to the Twilight Matriarch.

Other skills like Haunting Curse can be used when you want to and when you have enough magicka. Definitely throw in Crystal Frags whenever you have the option. Mage's Wrath is an execute and should only be used when the target is near or below 20% health and then it becomes your new spammable. if you don't have percentages showing on the mob health bars, I strongly recommend that you go into settings and add percentages to mob health bars so that you will know when they get into execute range.

Tactics: Without shields from the ward skill or heals from power surge, it can be hard for most magsorcs to stand and take a lot of punishment. A tactic that worked for my magsorc when she was leveling, and that works now for my no-cp level 15 magwarden, is to lay down the AOEs, and then kite the mobs in a tight circle so that the mobs have to chase me while still standing in my AOEs until the mobs are within execute range. If the clannfear is doing a good job of tanking, of course, you might not have to worry about kiting.

Hope that helps! Good luck with your MagSorc.

Jigger_allard

TheShadowScout wrote: »

***_allard wrote: »

What’s wrong? Besides my Breton Magicka Sorceress Toon, Arianna Ahearn, being such a ……. weakling? I just moved up to Level 20 and she still fights like she is level one. She can’t run 50 yards without running out of Stamina. In addition, her Magicka wains after a one-time pass through the bar...

Its normal that Sorceresses who spend all their time with their nose in books learning spells will be winded after even a short run. That's why they usually invest in a good horse as soon as they can...

As for the magic bar... that casting spell after spell will exhaust your mystic energy reserves should come as no surprise either. It can be helpful to alternate spell castings with fully charged heavy attacks from your staff to recover magica... and wear light armor only to take full advantage of the light armor magica support passives! And choose your damage spells carefully to get the best result for your magica... some are better then others, others have special effects that help in special situations... -know- your character skills!

Also, a mage should take advantage of CC spells to keep the pesky melee fighters away while you whittle them down with your magic. Used in the right combinations, you can have a "flawless victory" when you stop your opponents in their tracks so often they are dead before they reach melee range (well, trash mobs anyhow, won't work on minibosses since they usually are CC immune - but alternating CC spells and heavy attacks can make for quite some effective combo against weaker opponents!)

Also, DoT & HoT spells (like a certain one you can get in the mages guild skill line) can be quite helpful in getting you through fights without feeling underwhelmed by your efforts, as can the "blood magic" passive in the dark magic skill line...

Gear... fuggedaboudit. At level 20, you will replace your gear all too quickly, so go with your quest reward drops and whatever fits with those, and learn what works for you, plan your way to which set you will want to go after once you reach the CP160 cap.

Skills, as has been said, play through the mainstory and spend those skill points on combat skills, then raise your crafting when you grab the skill points from cadwells... taking the early time to start up on your research for the equipment craft lines, that takes long enough anyhow.

Okay, @TheShadowScout , I did as you suggested and went to Wayrest and respected. As it stands I have 16 points left to use on active skills (and Passives).

Conjured Ward, Bond Armor, Meteor, Surge and Elemental Storm are not yet available. Now, please correct me if I am wrong: I should save those points for when those aforementioned skills become available--as well as their morphed skills, before putting them into passives? Both bars have different skills in them as of now--save for the Clannfear and Power Overload.

Incidentally, @the.witchdoctor was extremely kind enough to set me up with the proper armor and some power food: And, at no cost to me--for which I am eternally grateful. Please let me know what you think. Thanks!