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The Reason For Transmutation?
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Jusey1✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
They also said they would NEVER go off a sub model.
The fact you ignore the times they have said something and gone back on it makes me think you dont care what I say.
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✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
link please?
if they are not going to be at the crown store (unlike horse leveling and trait research scrolls).. I am very surprised. and while still disappointed at in game costs, no longer as annoyed. as odd as it sounds.dirty worthless casual.
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Jusey1✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
They also said they would NEVER go off a sub model.
The fact you ignore the times they have said something and gone back on it makes me think you dont care what I say.
No offence though.
Well, if we gonna play it that way... There is the fact that you ignore the wording that ZOS has presents and then automatically believe that they are always lying, no matter what. For example, someone at ZOS has mentioned in updating the PTS so that you will get a crystal always for doing a Random Veteran Dungeon, but you tend to go back on the wording of another post where you occasionally will get a crystal for doing Veteran Dungeons, not realizing the possible fact that ZOS means if you do a specific dungeon on your own, you get a chance while doing randoms will always give a crystal, not just give you a daily crystal and that is it. I hadn't seen anything from ZOS about it being just one daily...
I would appreciate it if you give me an actual quote of them talking about that you only get one 100% chance crystal from RANDOMS (not the occasional quote where they probably mean specific dungeons).
Also, to respond to ZOS's lying... They don't lie, they just change their minds over time which yes can happen again here. Maybe these crystals will eventually be put onto the crown store down the road but right-now, someone at ZOS did mention that it will not be.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
link please?
if they are not going to be at the crown store (unlike horse leveling and trait research scrolls).. I am very surprised. and while still disappointed at in game costs, no longer as annoyed. as odd as it sounds.
I literally looked at my own history and the thread in question was deleted. I couldn't find my posts I've made on it. At least I do believe I did posted on it. It was one of the main Transmutation threads I was in, alongside with this one. Not too sure on why it was deleted other than maybe a moderator decided to do so due to the numbers of similar threads. Which is disappointing.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
They also said they would NEVER go off a sub model.
The fact you ignore the times they have said something and gone back on it makes me think you dont care what I say.
No offence though.
Well, if we gonna play it that way... There is the fact that you ignore the wording that ZOS has presents and then automatically believe that they are always lying, no matter what. For example, someone at ZOS has mentioned in updating the PTS so that you will get a crystal always for doing a Random Veteran Dungeon, but you tend to go back on the wording of another post where you occasionally will get a crystal for doing Veteran Dungeons, not realizing the possible fact that ZOS means if you do a specific dungeon on your own, you get a chance while doing randoms will always give a crystal, not just give you a daily crystal and that is it. I hadn't seen anything from ZOS about it being just one daily...
I would appreciate it if you give me an actual quote of them talking about that you only get one 100% chance crystal from RANDOMS (not the occasional quote where they probably mean specific dungeons).
Also, to respond to ZOS's lying... They don't lie, they just change their minds over time which yes can happen again here. Maybe these crystals will eventually be put onto the crown store down the road but right-now, someone at ZOS did mention that it will not be.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
link please?
if they are not going to be at the crown store (unlike horse leveling and trait research scrolls).. I am very surprised. and while still disappointed at in game costs, no longer as annoyed. as odd as it sounds.
I literally looked at my own history and the thread in question was deleted. I couldn't find my posts I've made on it. At least I do believe I did posted on it. It was one of the main Transmutation threads I was in, alongside with this one. Not too sure on why it was deleted other than maybe a moderator decided to do so due to the numbers of similar threads. Which is disappointing.
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Jusey1✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
Dont worry zos you will never go broke.
You're talking to guy who has bought ESO while it was 60% off, never bought ESO+, never bought anything extra, and has only just recently bought the four main DLCs while they were 40% (23 dollars for all four of them).
I'm literally the opposite of the type of person that ZOS will want to be playing in their games. In the last few years of me owning this game, they barely has gotten over 100 dollars from me. The only thing I have ever actually paid full price for was the Morrowind Expansion, and probably will be Clockwork City due to my nostalgia nerd inside of me for Morrowind.
Also, the fact that you went down to this level as a response isn't helping you at all. To me, it is showing that you don't have anything say and are just trying to shut me down with an insult, an indirect one for sure but still an insult.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
Dont worry zos you will never go broke.
You're talking to guy who has bought ESO while it was 60% off, never bought ESO+, never bought anything extra, and has only just recently bought the four main DLCs while they were 40% (23 dollars for all four of them).
I'm literally the opposite of the type of person that ZOS will want to be playing in their games. In the last few years of me owning this game, they barely has gotten over 100 dollars from me. The only thing I have ever actually paid full price for was the Morrowind Expansion, and probably will be Clockwork City due to my nostalgia nerd inside of me for Morrowind.
Also, the fact that you went down to this level as a response isn't helping you at all. To me, it is showing that you don't have anything say and are just trying to shut me down with an insult, an indirect one for sure but still an insult.
I am not saying anything. I dont argue with people who think ESO has never lied.0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
They also said they would NEVER go off a sub model.
The fact you ignore the times they have said something and gone back on it makes me think you dont care what I say.
No offence though.
Well, if we gonna play it that way... There is the fact that you ignore the wording that ZOS has presents and then automatically believe that they are always lying, no matter what. For example, someone at ZOS has mentioned in updating the PTS so that you will get a crystal always for doing a Random Veteran Dungeon, but you tend to go back on the wording of another post where you occasionally will get a crystal for doing Veteran Dungeons, not realizing the possible fact that ZOS means if you do a specific dungeon on your own, you get a chance while doing randoms will always give a crystal, not just give you a daily crystal and that is it. I hadn't seen anything from ZOS about it being just one daily...
I would appreciate it if you give me an actual quote of them talking about that you only get one 100% chance crystal from RANDOMS (not the occasional quote where they probably mean specific dungeons).
Also, to respond to ZOS's lying... They don't lie, they just change their minds over time which yes can happen again here. Maybe these crystals will eventually be put onto the crown store down the road but right-now, someone at ZOS did mention that it will not be.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
link please?
if they are not going to be at the crown store (unlike horse leveling and trait research scrolls).. I am very surprised. and while still disappointed at in game costs, no longer as annoyed. as odd as it sounds.
I literally looked at my own history and the thread in question was deleted. I couldn't find my posts I've made on it. At least I do believe I did posted on it. It was one of the main Transmutation threads I was in, alongside with this one. Not too sure on why it was deleted other than maybe a moderator decided to do so due to the numbers of similar threads. Which is disappointing.
Also you are wrong on MANY of the things you are saying.. I will highlight for example.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Just pasting this here for anyone that missed it a few pages ago:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »The new Transmutation system is intended as a way to assist you in obtaining the trait you desire for your gear as you play, but not be the primary way to obtain it. You'll obtain Transmutation Crystals as you play the content you're already participating in, but it isn't meant to be something you get immediately. We want you to feel like you have a way to eventually get the trait you want.
As for the current drop rates (which are subject to change since we're on the PTS), you're guaranteed to receive Crystal(s) from the following sources:- Veteran Undaunted Pledge
- Your first completed random Veteran dungeon through the Grouping Tool per day
- Trial Weekly Quests
- Leaderboards (AvA, Trials, Arenas, and Battlegrounds)
- End of Campaign Rewards (both 7-day and 30-day)
- Veteran Maelstrom Arena
- Veteran Dragonstar Arena
Additionally, you also have a chance at obtaining Crystals from these sources:- Completing additional random Veteran dungeons through the Grouping Tool
- Final bosses from Normal and Veteran dungeons
- Rewards for the Worthy
Hope this helps clarify how this system works. Again, remember that we've only been on the PTS with this system for less than 24 hours, so we may further tweak everything before it goes live. Thanks for all the feedback thus far, and keep it coming!
So next time you tell other people that they dont read or some other rubbish maybe double check if you are reading..
*Yes I know this is all pointless. You obviously wont think past your opinion and the idea that ZOS does no wrong.
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
But hey they will be in the crown store for "convenience" I would expect..
Someone at ZOS already confirmed in another thread that this will not happen and the crystals will not be on the Crown store. The fact you got this part of information wrong makes you unreliable and the other information you may have may also be wrong, no offense to you though.
They also said they would NEVER go off a sub model.
The fact you ignore the times they have said something and gone back on it makes me think you dont care what I say.
No offence though.
If I can just jump in here for a moment, their exact wording was there were no "plans" to add them to the crown store. This is not a promise, nor should it be perceived as one. Plans are susceptible to change and often times do.
I'd actually like if someone could link me all the "promises" that were broken in all honesty, I'd like to see the exact wording they used as it seems many assume "we have no plans to do this or that" and "we promise not to do this or that" to equate the same meaning, which of course they do not.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man, true nobility is being superior to your former self
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Jusey1✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »and the idea that ZOS does no wrong.
Dude, I hate Zenimax with a passion. They've been screwing up good games for so very long due to their bullcrap practices and choices that I am not surprise if they do lie from time to time, and I never said that they don't ever lie, I just pointed out their wording for what they've said thus far for the current system, which is very important. Wording is always different from what actual lies are, and I feel like you completely miss that main point. Now, I was wrong on certain things and have read other things from other posts and quotes (which could've just been edited) since ya know, original patch preview post does become wrong the longer PTS is up (like ZOS said in that post you quoted. They are subjected to change and my own information was based on those subjected changes that I've heard about).
I was just saying that they do change plans, that they don't just flat-out lies at times... It's just what game design is. You can make plans to not do something but then have to do due to something else, and this is simply something that happens with just about any game developers. They don't flat-out lie on purpose but rather told one truth which ended up being change for whatever reason.1
