Play as you like. As long as you don't play nightblade

Olen_Mikko

It just baffles me how much ZOS really hates nightblades.

Mass hysteria nerf. Really?

Agony redesign:

Healing allies, while taking 50 % damage to myself and potentially kill myself with it.

It's quite obvious, ZOS tries to get rid of NB's..

In the same time, you don't really see nerfs to other classes, especially sorcs..

Play as you like they say. Yea, play as you like, as long as you don't play with NB.

ThePrinceOfBargains

Magsorc still going strong tho, Ayyyyee!

Olen_Mikko

TheMaster wrote: »

Magsorc still going strong tho, Ayyyyee!

Why wouldn't it? It's ZOS's favourite child, they won't but buff it

Balamoor

I play a NB... and it's not that big of a deal.

Of course I also played a Ranger in EQ and a Ret Pally during Burning Crusade, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.

Olen_Mikko

Balamoor wrote: »

I play a NB... and it's not that big of a deal.

Of course I also played a Ranger in EQ and a Ret Pally during Burning Crusade, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.

It's more of the principals. Never love to NB's. Always nerfing with most ridiculous ideas, while buffing other classes. It's not fair.

Fear is really effective escaping tool, if i get stuck with more than 2 enemies.

ParaNostram

Mass Hysteria is still hands down the best CC in the game and now the other morph is looking really shiny. I'm going to play around with it personally.

In regards to the Agony change... Literally nobody has played with this new change yet so let's not cry the sky is falling quite yet? Wait I forgot these are the ESO forums, where a drop of rain hits the ground and everyone around goes into a panicked frenzy.

Edit: My brain is already thinking of ways the new Agony ability could be used to curious effects... Maybe on a heavy armor character to keep the constitution and wrath ticks going?

PlagueSD

Agony is about as useful as the Alchemy passive, "snakeblood" I've NEVER put a point into it.

Nyghthowler

Balamoor wrote: »

I play a NB... and it's not that big of a deal.

Of course I also played a Ranger in EQ and a Ret Pally during Burning Crusade, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.

EQ Ranger, the designated Sacrificial Goat for every situation

Olen_Mikko

PlagueSD wrote: »

Agony is about as useful as the Alchemy passive, "snakeblood" I've NEVER put a point into it.

I've had quite nice success with it, while in outnumbered situations.

DeadlyRecluse

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

ParaNostram

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

This guy gets it.

bubbygink

Ehhh fear obviously got nerfed but it isn't the end of the world. Do I think it was necessary? No. Do I think it will really make that much of a difference for me? Not really. For the most part should still be performing the same next patch. I am a little disappointed that none of the new Asylum Weapons will be worthwhile on my Magblade (unless I switched out Funnel for Crushing Shock which I am not going to do).

Balamoor

Nyghthowler wrote: »

Balamoor wrote: »

I play a NB... and it's not that big of a deal.

Of course I also played a Ranger in EQ and a Ret Pally during Burning Crusade, so maybe I'm not the best person to ask.

EQ Ranger, the designated Sacrificial Goat for every situation

Yeah I learned quickly what Scout actually meant.

I still have nightmares about the corpse runs

Krayzie

Shame, mass hysteria was pretty useful getting away from zergs

rhapsodious

I barely used Agony before and I'm probably not going to be very interested in Malevolent Offering, but that doesn't mean ZOS hates nightblades. To the contrary, I feel like we're allowed to play again after Homestead.

Dottzgaming

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

Still fantastic for Destro magblade

It's just another low blow to the DW magblade playstyle. Was hard enough to play it as it is - now one of our main tools of shaking opponents is not as effective anymore, making things even more difficult

SirAndy

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

In the same time, you don't really see nerfs to other classes, especially sorcs..

He who shall remain unnamed really likes playing Sorcs and it shows.

It's been that way ever since beta, "Play as you like" as long as you wear a pretty skirt and wave a wooden stick.

Nyladreas

Where dafaq r u all reading these changes? I see nothing in patch notes.

Olen_Mikko

DoShazarr wrote: »

Where dafaq r u all reading these changes? I see nothing in patch notes.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/371878/

Oreyn_Bearclaw

Lets see, nightblades now have better ranged DPS than sorcs, they are top two for stam DPS (number 1 on short fights), they are the best bombers, and the best gankers (no they arent the same thing). Yeah, you have it so rough.

Also, dont get me started on sorcs. Granted they were wildly overperforming in PVE, but they have been hit hard with the nerf hammer recently.

DeadlyRecluse

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

Still fantastic for Destro magblade

It's just another low blow to the DW magblade playstyle. Was hard enough to play it as it is - now one of our main tools of shaking opponents is not as effective anymore, making things even more difficult

As a melee templar, I'll trade you my javelin for new fear : P

Obviously it's a nerf, but it's still one of the best CCs in game. Possibly second only to WW transformation.

mb10

***-ing ridiculous!

Absolute sick of these stupid NB nerfs!!

No sign of the possibility of MageBlades being potential healers, the sap tank died a long time ago and now nerfs to Hysteria


Its just absolutely *** ridiculous, the treatment that magicka nightblades have gotten over the years.

Dottzgaming

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

Still fantastic for Destro magblade

It's just another low blow to the DW magblade playstyle. Was hard enough to play it as it is - now one of our main tools of shaking opponents is not as effective anymore, making things even more difficult

As a melee templar, I'll trade you my javelin for new fear : P

Obviously it's a nerf, but it's still one of the best CCs in game. Possibly second only to WW transformation.

thats a bad train of thought imo.

instead of wanting melee magblade nerfed info further inviability, wouldnt you prefer being buffed toward viability?

Olen_Mikko

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

Also, dont get me started on sorcs. Granted they were wildly overperforming in PVE, but they have been hit hard with the nerf hammer recently.

Name one

DeadlyRecluse

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

It's still a CC that goes through block and affects multiple targets. Still fantastic.

Agony will probably be terrible, but it's hard to say until we get dem stats--it's not unlike a second Guard, so could have some fun uses for tanks (in PvP) that thrive on damage taken.

Still fantastic for Destro magblade

It's just another low blow to the DW magblade playstyle. Was hard enough to play it as it is - now one of our main tools of shaking opponents is not as effective anymore, making things even more difficult

As a melee templar, I'll trade you my javelin for new fear : P

Obviously it's a nerf, but it's still one of the best CCs in game. Possibly second only to WW transformation.

thats a bad train of thought imo.

instead of wanting melee magblade nerfed info further inviability, wouldnt you prefer being buffed toward viability?

I never called for it to be nerfed. I'm just pointing out it is still one of the best CCs in the game.

Axoinus

I've found both to be solid skills, but somewhat situational. I'm not aware of any sort of terrible exploits. Not sure how it will work out messing with NB mitigation skills.

Chronicburn

This just gets depressed and makes me not want to play

Doctordarkspawn

ParaNostram wrote: »

Mass Hysteria is still hands down the best CC in the game and now the other morph is looking really shiny. I'm going to play around with it personally.

In regards to the Agony change... Literally nobody has played with this new change yet so let's not cry the sky is falling quite yet? Wait I forgot these are the ESO forums, where a drop of rain hits the ground and everyone around goes into a panicked frenzy.

Edit: My brain is already thinking of ways the new Agony ability could be used to curious effects... Maybe on a heavy armor character to keep the constitution and wrath ticks going?

If your going to use it on a HA build, why not just....I dont know, do your job? The ticks really are not enough to do that much to yourself. Seriously.

Niobium

Nyghthowler wrote: »

EQ Ranger, the designated Sacrificial Goat for every situation

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Runschei

Quite honestly I am not even surprised It's [snip] tho

[Edited to remove profanity]

Feanor

SirAndy wrote: »

Olen_Mikko wrote: »

In the same time, you don't really see nerfs to other classes, especially sorcs..

He who shall remain unnamed really likes playing Sorcs and it shows.

It's been that way ever since beta, "Play as you like" as long as you wear a pretty skirt and wave a wooden stick.

Is that why stamDKs and stamNBs are at the top of the dps chain in PvE and rule most of Cyrodiil?