Faction Change Token

Azurya

I have 2 Chars which I made in the early days of this game in another faction as I have the others. Now I would it to be possible to move them to my main faction, cause there I play most and I just want them to be there. And yes I play ALL of my 8 chars.
Why not have a Token in the Crown Store so I can get my chars home?

Please ZOS

Biro123

Pretty please?

(been asked for a number of times already - so don't hold your breath!)

Saturnana

Because it would only work for people with the 'every race, every alliance' perk and that could cause a lot of problems (i.e. people buying the token only to find out they can't use it). Having it work without the perk would devalue the perk itself, and probably cause even more grief with the players who've paid for it.

EDIT:
What would make more sense to me - as has been suggested by others in previous threads - is having the race change token automatically change your character to the alliance corresponding to the race you're changing into, as well as the changing the race itself.

Azurya

IMHO therefor are people working at ESO: to make such things working!
And yes I have every race, every alliance, but I want those chars in another alliance!
Afterall this is possible in WoW for example.

and who knows, perhaps this is something they get working!

Cyrediath

It would be awesome but there should be limit like once per 3 months or just 1 time only per character. we dont want people changing alliances all the time depends on which alliance is winning in cyro.

witchdoctor

lnsane wrote: »

What would make more sense to me - as has been suggested by others in previous threads - is having the race change token automatically change your character to the alliance corresponding to the race you're changing into, as well as the changing the race itself.

But what if I wanted to change my Dunmer to a Redguard but stay EP?

RANKK7

Yes, I have two characters pve ONLY, never entered ava location, since when I started playing I thought that "any alliance any race" would give the option to change that later on
They have horses training maxed out by now and skills, not going to delete them, a one time token would be needed.

Saturnana

witchdoctor wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

What would make more sense to me - as has been suggested by others in previous threads - is having the race change token automatically change your character to the alliance corresponding to the race you're changing into, as well as the changing the race itself.

But what if I wanted to change my Dunmer to a Redguard but stay EP?

Well lore-wise that would be weird, as Redguards are not in EP (generally speaking) and races are bound to certain factions. One could argue that opting to change race should automatically mean you've switched alliances as well, unless you've activated the race/alliance-perk. IF it were up to me, then that's how I would make it work. I suppose it's these kinds of questions that are blocking the introduction of a faction change, though.

Mithoron

Although obviously discussed many times, have to chime a one-time transfer would be awesome. I'm in a guild that is predominantly DC; however, my toon, created since retail, is AD. Would be nice to play with my guildies in Cyrodiil....

Azurya

In WoW this factionchange cost 30 Euro, and though that is much money, I would be willing to pay it.

Make it possible!

Turelus

I would still rather see them change the system to only have factions matter during Cyrodiil campaigns.

You sign you account up to a faction each campaign season and are locked with that faction, you can change any time there after or if you change home campaign (with AP cost) having us more like mercenaries.

This would also help with the whole lore issues in the PvE zones of why an EP character would help DC etc.

Alwari

Chiming in yet again to say that this option is greatly needed! Please allow Alliance changes somehow!

TheShadowScout

Personally I think faction change would be a good thing for ESO - If done Right!

Anmd by that I mean not just with a mere token that changes your faction allegiance, but with a neat guild-sized DLC that has a "spycraft" flavor, and a questline with a "faction loyalty called in question", and a big choice in the middle (or first third, or whatever) - will your character stay loyal to their alliance, find out who the real traitor is that framed them and restore their reputation... OR... will they defect to greener pastures elsewhere, dodge the agents sent to bring them in, and maybe grab some secrets to convince someone to take them in along the way?
Such an DLC could have a small neutral location somewhere for spies and agents to meet and spy hard, and also revisit locations all over the maps (think of all the many instances that were used only once for some quest, and then forgotten... revisiting some of them with new emenies to deal with could be fun!) for further cloak and dagger themed questings...
Bonus points for revisiting well known characters - hey, who wouldn't want to slam a porticullis shut into Razum-Dar's face while hopping on a boat bound for Morrowind with Naryu?

And there could be nifty titles as well! Like "(original faction) Loyalist" for those who stay, and "(original faction) Defector" for those who leave... since naturally such a questline could only be done -once-, making it something to think twice about for your characters...

Naturally there also could be PvP drawbacks to discuorage those who pick their deferctions for PvP reasons... like earning only half AP for defectors (since noone truly trusts a traitor, not even the ones they join) but them being worth triple AP if taken down by their original faction (because everyone hates a traitor, especially the ones they betray). Possibly even a "hunt a traitor a day" quest that highlights those while active... because...

Azurya

TheShadowScout wrote: »

Personally I think faction change would be a good thing for ESO - If done Right!

great idea!

Azurya

gotta give this a bump

Runschei

I am sceptical because of pvp reasons

Dojohoda

Faction Change, ZOS make it happen ... Do it

theWul

Any official word on this ?

Tommy_The_Gun

Why to have faction at all after One Tamriel ? Sure - you could still pick your starting location (any race any alliance seems like the only reason for faction to exists at this point).
It would be so much better if AvA Campaigns would allow you to pick a side when you first time enter a campaign and then (for the duration of campaign) prevented you from re-logging to different side of conflict and basically switch teams...

LadyNalcarya

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Why to have faction at all after One Tamriel ? Sure - you could still pick your starting location (any race any alliance seems like the only reason for faction to exists at this point).
It would be so much better if AvA Campaigns would allow you to pick a side when you first time enter a campaign and then (for the duration of campaign) prevented you from re-logging to different side of conflict and basically switch teams...

Because my main character is in the wrong faction.
When I made her I didnt know I would be fighting for another alliance.

FloppyTouch

Don’t need this bc I made all my characters on the right faction DC

But I can understand ad and ep wanting to come here.

lardvader

Turelus wrote: »

I would still rather see them change the system to only have factions matter during Cyrodiil campaigns.

You sign you account up to a faction each campaign season and are locked with that faction, you can change any time there after or if you change home campaign (with AP cost) having us more like mercenaries.

This would also help with the whole lore issues in the PvE zones of why an EP character would help DC etc.

This is something I agree to - don't really need to change faction on any characters but would be nice to play as DC or AD every now and then.

TheShadowScout

theWul wrote: »

Any official word on this ?

The last official word I ever heard on faction change was way back when they were bringing out the other "change" service tokens... and that was, they are considering it. (it was in some ESO live I think, back around the time of those releases... so, over a year ago?) Haven't heard anything new since...

Dottzgaming

Turelus wrote: »

I would still rather see them change the system to only have factions matter during Cyrodiil campaigns.

You sign you account up to a faction each campaign season and are locked with that faction, you can change any time there after or if you change home campaign (with AP cost) having us more like mercenaries.

This would also help with the whole lore issues in the PvE zones of why an EP character would help DC etc.

Something like this, or nothing. Personally? im in a fan of no race changes in this game.

The issue you run in to with faction changes is that one faction can become HEAVILY populated while the others die, and this was extremely evident in wow and why im surprised the OP used wow as an argument in support of their cause. During Warlords of Draenor when the popular streamers flocked to the Alliance, all of their fans followed them. This caused the Alliance to have over 95% of the active PvP population while the horde had 5%. Good luck trying to find arena partners if you played horde or trying to get into a competent random / rated BG group. You were basically forced to change factions to PvP.

My fear is that if faction changes become enabled in ESO, the same thing will happen here, and i dont see a situation in which it doesnt.

Azurya

This would be a little invention for ZOS to make it happen, but it will be a great for all those waiting for it!

As the racechange tokens came out, I thought I don´t need it, but by now, I used it already 5 times, lol!

And I can imaging that it would fit in the new major DLC coming up, Sumerset!

Looking forward to it @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_KaiSchober

spread the message!

Enslaved

No. Never and not even then.

NewBlacksmurf

lnsane wrote: »

Because it would only work for people with the 'every race, every alliance' perk and that could cause a lot of problems (i.e. people buying the token only to find out they can't use it). Having it work without the perk would devalue the perk itself, and probably cause even more grief with the players who've paid for it.

EDIT:
What would make more sense to me - as has been suggested by others in previous threads - is having the race change token automatically change your character to the alliance corresponding to the race you're changing into, as well as the changing the race itself.

I disagree with the above.
The only logical way to address this is to not have a token at all. AND to require a faction choice upon joining a campaign. That choice would be account wide for PvP only and last until that campaign ends which then unbinds the faction until either you choose to join th next campaign where all three choices are open again. Now it’s based on population and makes joining any campaign a strategic and meaningful decision but not one that you’re stuck with.

Also it should alleviate PvE issues where faction should no longer matter in general other than the solo only stories.

While it may read as odd, for PvP people should be aligned with one but not have to pay to swap as well as not be locked in due to the major changes over the last few years.

Thoughts @ZOS_RichLambert ?
What are you all thinking if anything for 2018?

Azurya

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I would still rather see them change the system to only have factions matter during Cyrodiil campaigns.

You sign you account up to a faction each campaign season and are locked with that faction, you can change any time there after or if you change home campaign (with AP cost) having us more like mercenaries.

This would also help with the whole lore issues in the PvE zones of why an EP character would help DC etc.

Something like this, or nothing. Personally? im in a fan of no race changes in this game.

The issue you run in to with faction changes is that one faction can become HEAVILY populated while the others die, and this was extremely evident in wow and why im surprised the OP used wow as an argument in support of their cause. During Warlords of Draenor when the popular streamers flocked to the Alliance, all of their fans followed them. This caused the Alliance to have over 95% of the active PvP population while the horde had 5%. Good luck trying to find arena partners if you played horde or trying to get into a competent random / rated BG group. You were basically forced to change factions to PvP.

My fear is that if faction changes become enabled in ESO, the same thing will happen here, and i dont see a situation in which it doesnt.

Yeah I see your point, BUT
in WoW there were only 2 alliances, here there are 3.
and in the beginning of the game it was to me and many others not clear that you would be able to SEE the land of the other factions as well, so what did we do, we made at least one character in every faction!

Then later on as it came obvious with Caldwells Silver and Gold that we would see all of it, I deleted 2 chars, but those in the last other alliance I got so dear that I will not ever delete them. Now one is my banker and the other a dusty old rot in dark street of Deshaan.
Oh and I am Horde in WoW!

Azurya

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

Because it would only work for people with the 'every race, every alliance' perk and that could cause a lot of problems (i.e. people buying the token only to find out they can't use it). Having it work without the perk would devalue the perk itself, and probably cause even more grief with the players who've paid for it.

EDIT:
What would make more sense to me - as has been suggested by others in previous threads - is having the race change token automatically change your character to the alliance corresponding to the race you're changing into, as well as the changing the race itself.

I disagree with the above.
The only logical way to address this is to not have a token at all. AND to require a faction choice upon joining a campaign. That choice would be account wide for PvP only and last until that campaign ends which then unbinds the faction until either you choose to join th next campaign where all three choices are open again. Now it’s based on population and makes joining any campaign a strategic and meaningful decision but not one that you’re stuck with.

Also it should alleviate PvE issues where faction should no longer matter in general other than the solo only stories.

While it may read as odd, for PvP people should be aligned with one but not have to pay to swap as well as not be locked in due to the major changes over the last few years.

Thoughts @ZOS_RichLambert ?
What are you all thinking if anything for 2018?

And I think it would be a little for ZOS to only make it available to accounts which have the any race, any alliance pack!

Skinzz

Azurya wrote: »

Dottzgaming wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

I would still rather see them change the system to only have factions matter during Cyrodiil campaigns.

You sign you account up to a faction each campaign season and are locked with that faction, you can change any time there after or if you change home campaign (with AP cost) having us more like mercenaries.

This would also help with the whole lore issues in the PvE zones of why an EP character would help DC etc.

Something like this, or nothing. Personally? im in a fan of no race changes in this game.

The issue you run in to with faction changes is that one faction can become HEAVILY populated while the others die, and this was extremely evident in wow and why im surprised the OP used wow as an argument in support of their cause. During Warlords of Draenor when the popular streamers flocked to the Alliance, all of their fans followed them. This caused the Alliance to have over 95% of the active PvP population while the horde had 5%. Good luck trying to find arena partners if you played horde or trying to get into a competent random / rated BG group. You were basically forced to change factions to PvP.

My fear is that if faction changes become enabled in ESO, the same thing will happen here, and i dont see a situation in which it doesnt.

Yeah I see your point, BUT
in WoW there were only 2 alliances, here there are 3.
and in the beginning of the game it was to me and many others not clear that you would be able to SEE the land of the other factions as well, so what did we do, we made at least one character in every faction!

Then later on as it came obvious with Caldwells Silver and Gold that we would see all of it, I deleted 2 chars, but those in the last other alliance I got so dear that I will not ever delete them. Now one is my banker and the other a dusty old rot in dark street of Deshaan.
Oh and I am Horde in WoW!

This is still ESO. Has nothing to do with Wow.