"Crushing AD into Submission" - NERF EMP!

maxlacab16_ESO

Sure, it was a "great" fight against all of AD, that you see in the video posted by @FENGRUSH on his channel.
The main reason for his toon to "wipe" a group of ten, is how ridiculously OP the EMPEROR Buff is.

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@ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_EricWrobel
Sure, he is a professional player, and has great builds and skills, but to wipe that group so easily, and take a defended keep "single-handed," means that the EMP buff is just way too OP!
Ridiculous, even.

Rohamad_Ali

The only thing crushing AD is their beer cans on their forheads after pounding booze to deal with zerging DC . We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

maxlacab16_ESO

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

Yea.. I wonder why a PRO is raging his awesomeness in a campaign with newbs and trainees?

On another note, in said video, at minute 8.49, he uses his Dawnbreaker Ulti. At minute 8.53, the Dawnbreaker Ulti is charged again! That seems kind of fast, even with major heroism on, etc.
Is that also an EMP buff thing??

DeadlyRecluse

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

Yea.. I wonder why a PRO is raging his awesomeness in a campaign with newbs and trainees?

On another note, in said video, at minute 8.49, he uses his Dawnbreaker Ulti. At minute 8.53, the Dawnbreaker Ulti is charged again! That seems kind of fast, even with major heroism on, etc.
Is that also an EMP buff thing??

Yes, emp gives 2x Ult gain.

FriedEggSandwich

It's not rediculous. It requires a time investment to achieve and maintain, and there is only one emp per campaign. You don't have to feed the emp.

tplink3r1

Those players were bad and in low numbers and emperors are supposed to be powerful.

gabriebe

Well yeah, the emp buff is OP, that's the whole point of getting emp lol.

ezeepeezee

He's using a build that already hits really hard, on a class that can line up probably the strongest stamina burst combos in the game over and over again. He's not showcasing Emp as much as he is showcasing stam Warden.

Serjustin19

gabriebe wrote: »

Well yeah, the emp buff is OP, that's the whole point of getting emp lol.

But, would I still be OP (From buff) If I became a EMP? I mean sure 3 times I almost had EMP, but I would always wonder. What would it to be like a full PvP Healer Templar, no damage and all. Would becoming EMP help my heals be OP? I be a worthless EMP after all.

NBrookus

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

You don't have to feed the emp.

Right. When there's an emp you should log off and not fight instead of "feeding" them emp?

Serjustin19 wrote: »

But, would I still be OP (From buff) If I became a EMP? I mean sure 3 times I almost had EMP, but I would always wonder. What would it to be like a full PvP Healer Templar, no damage and all. Would becoming EMP help my heals be OP? I be a worthless EMP after all.

Your stat regen is doubled, your ultimate regen is doubled, your healing recieved is increased by 50% and your base stats are increased by 75%. There have been many healer emps, but nothing in the emp bonuses is as big of an advange to healers as they are to damage dealers.

CatchMeTrolling

Emp buffs are fine, what you're seeing isn't even the norm these days because most can't play outside of a group. Plus as for someone who knows what they're doing he never really had an overwhelming amount of player's against him, they was just asking to get wiped.

pcar944

NBrookus wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

You don't have to feed the emp.

Right. When there's an emp you should log off and not fight instead of "feeding" them emp?

Serjustin19 wrote: »

But, would I still be OP (From buff) If I became a EMP? I mean sure 3 times I almost had EMP, but I would always wonder. What would it to be like a full PvP Healer Templar, no damage and all. Would becoming EMP help my heals be OP? I be a worthless EMP after all.

Your stat regen is doubled, your ultimate regen is doubled, your healing recieved is increased by 50% and your base stats are increased by 75%. There have been many healer emps, but nothing in the emp bonuses is as big of an advange to healers as they are to damage dealers.

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a lot are healers and will put on some DD abilities once crowned but are hardly "fighting" emperors

but there have been plenty of ones that can actually do damage and bring the pain

FriedEggSandwich

NBrookus wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

You don't have to feed the emp.

Right. When there's an emp you should log off and not fight instead of "feeding" them emp?

No, like I said; there is only one emp per campaign, implying they can't be in 2 places at once. Work together with your faction to hit more than one place at a time. That is the strategy. Cyrodiil is big enough for one emp, you don't have to be where the emp is.

Vapirko

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

Yea.. I wonder why a PRO is raging his awesomeness in a campaign with newbs and trainees?

On another note, in said video, at minute 8.49, he uses his Dawnbreaker Ulti. At minute 8.53, the Dawnbreaker Ulti is charged again! That seems kind of fast, even with major heroism on, etc.
Is that also an EMP buff thing??

Emp buffs ult gains and wardens get class buffs to ult gain plus he's putting out a lot of damage.

It's amazing how salty all the AD players are lol. I'd challenge anyone here who said they could also single handedly defeat that many players to post a video showing us how easy it is.

pcar944

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

You don't have to feed the emp.

Right. When there's an emp you should log off and not fight instead of "feeding" them emp?

No, like I said; there is only one emp per campaign, implying they can't be in 2 places at once. Work together with your faction to hit more than one place at a time. That is the strategy. Cyrodiil is big enough for one emp, you don't have to be where the emp is.

but the achievement for zerging one down is calling my name ...

Vilestride

Serjustin19 wrote: »

gabriebe wrote: »

Well yeah, the emp buff is OP, that's the whole point of getting emp lol.

But, would I still be OP (From buff) If I became a EMP? I mean sure 3 times I almost had EMP, but I would always wonder. What would it to be like a full PvP Healer Templar, no damage and all. Would becoming EMP help my heals be OP? I be a worthless EMP after all.

If you're a healer one can presume you are playing in a group anyway. And I would hate to have to fight a group with a good emp healer. Good luck wiping them when your healing springs tick higher than destro ult ticks.

Malic

It's not the emp buff, AD is the whipping boy of ESO PVP. They will always be focused, they will always be crushed, they will always have an excuse.

They earned these beat downs from years of zergs, now they are being punished for their crimes. You'll see in vivec NA/PC they will loose again, and again it will be some other factor. Someone cheated, faction stacking team "color of the month" they always have an excuse.

Fengrush didnt need EMP for that, AD is horrible.

Garwulf

Two of the serious mistakes made in this game.
1) Having an Emperor and not having a punishment for failing as Emperor. Normally it would be permanent death but that would be harsh in a computer game that is meant to be fun.
2) Allowing people to swap characters mid campaign. Run your Zerg across the map, swap, run your other Zerg Back.

There are many more but who is counting. Meanwhile PVP is dying by the death of a thousand cuts. Doing the same thing over and over again for years is draining and demoralising. But, but, but...there is a new mount and costume in the crown store.

FakeFox

Serjustin19 wrote: »

gabriebe wrote: »

Well yeah, the emp buff is OP, that's the whole point of getting emp lol.

But, would I still be OP (From buff) If I became a EMP? I mean sure 3 times I almost had EMP, but I would always wonder. What would it to be like a full PvP Healer Templar, no damage and all. Would becoming EMP help my heals be OP? I be a worthless EMP after all.

I made emperor on my healer. It's not useless at all. You can pretty much heal a whole zerg on your own. You have unlimited sustain and are unkillable. But you can still kill people, you do roughly the damage offensive build's do normally and you can have a meteor every 5 seconds.^^

Mayrael

When facing newbies you can do that without emp. Yesterday in IC ive killed group of 5 DCs on my mag sorc... None of them had rang higher than 15 and tbh it was easier than killing a skilled player 1v1, thats why I dont care about pros from yt. Real pros are in the game, playing and killing, not being concerned about followers.

Joy_Division

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

Yea.. I wonder why a PRO is raging his awesomeness in a campaign with newbs and trainees?

On another note, in said video, at minute 8.49, he uses his Dawnbreaker Ulti. At minute 8.53, the Dawnbreaker Ulti is charged again! That seems kind of fast, even with major heroism on, etc.
Is that also an EMP buff thing??

A campaign with newbs and trainees? I'm told that Sotha Sil campaign is where many experienced PvP veterans play because without CP it promotes more skillful gameplay (like Frengrush).

Also, Frengrush used his dawnbreaker 4 seconds after the last because of combat Frenzy, not an emp buff.

NBrookus

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

You don't have to feed the emp.

Right. When there's an emp you should log off and not fight instead of "feeding" them emp?

No, like I said; there is only one emp per campaign, implying they can't be in 2 places at once. Work together with your faction to hit more than one place at a time. That is the strategy. Cyrodiil is big enough for one emp, you don't have to be where the emp is.

Except this was on Shor. That was likely the entire population of AD. There aren't enough players to keep the emperor busy while another group does stuff elsewhere, and hitting something at random, the emp is probably going to respond. (Well THIS emp... Shor sees it's fair share of emps that won't fight.)

DeHei

The Emp buff is very op, BUT it should be. You are the *** emperor and strong like 4 guys!

Btw. every time he kills a player, he got 15ultimate back. So, when he kills a lot, he can use the ultimate much more times. Together with his 200% reg to all it works very fine

Crown

Last time I had emperor on my MagWarden, here's my summary:

• 5 light / 1 medium (shoulders) / 1 heavy (head)
• 2 BloodSpawn (double ult on the proc is amazing)
• 5 Necro (MOAR MAGICKA!)
• 5 Spinner or 5 Julianos (tried both, liked both)
• All gold gear with gold max magicka enchants
• Tri-Food for max resource pools
• DW (for the extra spell damage) / resto
• ults: dawnbreaker of smiting / enchanted forest (double ult on the proc)

Some numbers:

• With my netch out, my magicka pool was over 75k
• Shalk (Deep Fissure) was hitting most for more than 10k
• Dawnbreaker (of smiting) was hitting most for more than 15k
• Birdz (Cliff Racer) was hitting most for 7-8k (yelling "ca-caw" every time I killed someone with Birdz got old very quickly)

Considering the following, either of my ults was up within about 3 seconds of using it.
1. Blood Spawn returned double ult on procs
2. Shimmering Shield returned double ult
3. A dawnbreaker with any other skill would kill someone returning double ult from Combat Frenzy
4. Enchanted forest returned double ult if I was low on health

My conclusions:
1. Regardless of mag or stam, a damage-build warden emp becomes a death machine counting as between 3-5 equivalent damage builds ALWAYS HITTING THE SAME TARGET (which makes a damage emp much more valuable).
2. If you're a healer and become emperor, I believe that's a waste of an emperor as your output of healing will at most be about double most other healers.
3. If you have the right friends or right campaign, It doesn't take a good player to get emp.
4. If you have the right build, it doesn't take a good player to get a lot of kills as emp.

Sandman929

A stam Warden has Emp? No Vicious Death/Destro ulti? Rejoice, people.

Rianai

I wouldn't mind the opness of those buffs, if emp would be something that players have to actually fight for, with chances for each side. But lets be honest, how often is an emp crowned during times with equal population? Most of the time it ends up being a buff for the faction that already has an advantage in numbers, so it just ends up worsening issues with population imbalance.

SanTii.92

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

Sure, he is a professional player, and has great builds and skills, but to wipe that group so easily, and take a defended keep "single-handed," means that the EMP buff is just way too OP!
Ridiculous, even.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuFrcM9pH40

SugaComa

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

It's not rediculous. It requires a time investment to achieve and maintain, and there is only one emp per campaign. You don't have to feed the emp.

What are you talking one emp per campaign I've seen loads or do you mean one player at a time can be emp ?

To be honest the emp problem is in some factions I'm looking at you EP PS4 EU it's the same emp all the bloody time ...

Why I like AD they push different people through emp in active campaigns not night capping empty ones for emp rotation with friends

I think we should have 4 hour campaigns and former emps can't regain emp in a 72 hour period for more dynamic game play

ComboBreaker88

Emp is supposed to be OP... It's an Emporer.. Git gud kid. Seriously, if anything they need to buff emp back to its former glory.

Drummerx04

Joy_Division wrote: »

maxlacab16_ESO wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

We could go to a underpopulated campaign and do that nonsense at night too . It wouldn't make us good players though .

Yea.. I wonder why a PRO is raging his awesomeness in a campaign with newbs and trainees?

On another note, in said video, at minute 8.49, he uses his Dawnbreaker Ulti. At minute 8.53, the Dawnbreaker Ulti is charged again! That seems kind of fast, even with major heroism on, etc.
Is that also an EMP buff thing??

A campaign with newbs and trainees? I'm told that Sotha Sil campaign is where many experienced PvP veterans play because without CP it promotes more skillful gameplay (like Frengrush).

Also, Frengrush used his dawnbreaker 4 seconds after the last because of combat Frenzy, not an emp buff.

Except emp boosts combat frenzy, so he earns 40 ult per kill.