Using Mouse and Keyboard to Macro abilites

maryriv

I've noticed that most people in Cyrodiil are using macros, you can always tell because death recap shows 4 abilities cast in less than one second. No ones reflexes are that fast. So I was wondering, what is your official stance on using mouse and keyboard binds to macro light attack, bash, interrupt and bar swap animation cancelling macros?

If I report these people, nothing happens, does that indicate that you approve?

Thank you for your time.

Corpier

It is impossible to for a macro to allow more than 3 inputs per second as global cooldowns are in effect on things such as light attacks, abilities, and blocks, bashes and bar swaps so that they can only occur once per second. Likely macros are not the issue you are blaming for death recaps but combinations of popular kill combos that take advantage of ability delays and travel times that allow more than one ability to hit at the same time. Most that cry "macro" do so because they do not understand mechanics. Its very possible to press 3 buttons per second with practice, this does not mean someone used a macro just because they killed you in one second and that "one second" kill probably took 3-6 seconds of preparation.

Please don't turn this into an anti-animation cancelling thread.

deepseamk20b14_ESO

Dude. It's lag. That's it. You see 4 attacks in a second but on their screen it's 3 seconds. There's not much you can do. No ones cheating, servers just suck. Ever run around alive but your alive at the same time? Then finally after a few seconds you actually die? That's lag. ESO has lots of it and as much as it sucks there is nothing we can do about it.

maryriv

Corpier wrote: »

It is impossible to for a macro to allow more than 3 inputs per second as global cooldowns are in effect on things such as light attacks, abilities, and blocks, bashes and bar swaps so that they can only occur once per second. Likely macros are not the issue you are blaming for death recaps but combinations of popular kill combos that take advantage of ability delays and travel times that allow more than one ability to hit at the same time. Most that cry "macro" do so because they do not understand mechanics. Its very possible to press 3 buttons per second with practice, this does not mean someone used a macro just because they killed you in one second and that "one second" kill probably took 3-6 seconds of preparation.

Please don't turn this into an anti-animation cancelling thread.

False. I am not blaming anything on anything, and you are wrong. Not all actions trigger GCD. Please let people comment who know what they are talking about.

DeathHouseInc

SHOTS FIRED

Juhasow

OMG I am macro slicer ban me !

This is what it really is. As You can see I had 12 ticks of endless hail and 8 ticks of caltroops in 2 seconds because my game freezed for 6 seconds and then counted all dmg from this 6 seconds freeze + dmg i did later as one. My internet isnt the best and after HotR update that freezes happends much more often and are much longer then it used to be before.

You simply cannot use 4 single target instant dmg abilities in 1 second because global coldowwn is ~0,9 sec , but You can time combinations of few skills that have delayed time of dealing dmg for example as sorc You can use curse+meteor+crystal frag+endless fury and only endless fury deals dmg instantly other skills takes some time to deal dmg so in theory You did 4 attacks in 1 second but You needed like 4 seconds to click everything perfectly.

If You see enemie that used for example 4 dizzying swings in 1 second it simly means he had 4 seconds long freeze/lag and when that lag ended game performed all skills he clicked during that 4 seconds.

I am not saying that there is noone using macros in ESO but macros still underlie global coldown so people using them just perfectly weave between skills and using light/heavy attacks or cancelling animations which tbh isnt hard to learn to do manually.

I am still thinking macro users are pathetic beeings that are to lazy to L2P but using 4 instant dmg attacks in 1 seconds is not caused by macros.

ezeepeezee

People aren't using macros. There are simple button combos in this game that allow you to weave attacks quickly and seamlessly, it just takes practice. I do a LA > ability > bash combo so quick you can't tell what it even is unless you know, because I have done it thousands of times.

FakeFox

This has nothing to do with macros. Abilities have a global cooldown of one second and macros can't change this. Everything that is not a ability does not share the same cooldown, so you can weave abilities with light attacks, bashes, etc. Add in dots and procs and you are at multiple hits per second. It's standard game mechanics and does not require macros to pull off.

Also as many people above me stated, lag can play a huge role as well.

maryriv

Juhasow wrote: »

OMG I am macro slicer ban me !

This is what it really is. As You can see I had 12 ticks of endless hail and 8 ticks of caltroops in 2 seconds because my game freezed for 6 seconds and then counted all dmg from this 6 seconds freeze + dmg i did later as one. My internet isnt the best and after HotR update that freezes happends much more often and are much longer then it used to be before.

You simply cannot use 4 single target instant dmg abilities in 1 second because global coldowwn is ~0,9 sec , but You can time combinations of few skills that have delayed time of dealing dmg for example as sorc You can use curse+meteor+crystal frag+endless fury and only endless fury deals dmg instantly other skills takes some time to deal dmg so in theory You did 4 attacks in 1 second but You needed like 4 seconds to click everything perfectly.

If You see enemie that used for example 4 dizzying swings in 1 second it simly means he had 4 seconds long freeze/lag and when that lag ended game performed all skills he clicked during that 4 seconds.

I am not saying that there is noone using macros in ESO but macros still underlie global coldown so people using them just perfectly weave between skills and using light/heavy attacks or cancelling animations which tbh isnt hard to learn to do manually.

I am still thinking macro users are pathetic beeings that are to lazy to L2P but using 4 instant dmg attacks in 1 seconds is not caused by macros.

Wow, if this is what you think I am talking about then you are way off base.

I know how to read a recount.

In fact you should download an addon called ImprovedDeathRecap it will help you not build straw man arguments trying to disguise dots as ST macroing.

You are either ignorant of the fact that it goes on or maliciously trying to cover it up, either way you should make way for those more knowledgeable. Thanks!

Hexys

Go play black desert online and learn those skill combo's. ESO is a joke, if you literally suspect players from using macro's your knowledge of this game is close to 0.

LjAnimalchin

maryriv wrote: »

If I report these people, nothing happens

The reason why this happens is because those people are not exploiting. They are not using macros. And they most certainly are not using 4 or 5 attacks in one second. What's actually happening is you are quite bad at the game and have no concept of time or situational awareness and rather than just attempt to get better like most people you simply divert the blame onto some exploit macro etc and away from your apparent lack of skill.

Juhasow

maryriv wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

OMG I am macro slicer ban me !

This is what it really is. As You can see I had 12 ticks of endless hail and 8 ticks of caltroops in 2 seconds because my game freezed for 6 seconds and then counted all dmg from this 6 seconds freeze + dmg i did later as one. My internet isnt the best and after HotR update that freezes happends much more often and are much longer then it used to be before.

You simply cannot use 4 single target instant dmg abilities in 1 second because global coldowwn is ~0,9 sec , but You can time combinations of few skills that have delayed time of dealing dmg for example as sorc You can use curse+meteor+crystal frag+endless fury and only endless fury deals dmg instantly other skills takes some time to deal dmg so in theory You did 4 attacks in 1 second but You needed like 4 seconds to click everything perfectly.

If You see enemie that used for example 4 dizzying swings in 1 second it simly means he had 4 seconds long freeze/lag and when that lag ended game performed all skills he clicked during that 4 seconds.

I am not saying that there is noone using macros in ESO but macros still underlie global coldown so people using them just perfectly weave between skills and using light/heavy attacks or cancelling animations which tbh isnt hard to learn to do manually.

I am still thinking macro users are pathetic beeings that are to lazy to L2P but using 4 instant dmg attacks in 1 seconds is not caused by macros.

Wow, if this is what you think I am talking about then you are way off base.

I know how to read a recount.

In fact you should download an addon called ImprovedDeathRecap it will help you not build straw man arguments trying to disguise dots as ST macroing.

You are either ignorant of the fact that it goes on or maliciously trying to cover it up, either way you should make way for those more knowledgeable. Thanks!

It was DoT's because It was PvE rotation but belive me it could be easily 8 dizzying swings in 2 seconds if I would spam button of that skill during freeze. Also this skills may be DoT's but still require casting them so tell me smart guy how it is possible I have 9 attacks requring clicking a button in 2 seconds ? Use brain and get real.

Sorry to say but You look like another "I loose because everyone is cheating" type of player. Get some knowledge about the game and then come back with arguments and proves not just with empty accusations.

maryriv

I think its very amusing that so many of you are so in the dark about something so well known and used! I suspect you are trying to cover for your own macro use to prevent ZoS from addressing the issue. Or maybe you guys have been reading and practicing the tips in this article to try and misdirect, deny and bully anyone who dares bring it up by calling them ignorant, clueless etc.

It won't work. I am not lagging with a PR of 100 and FPS of 90. I also use Decay2's Improved Death Recap so you can't use that excuse either. It's plain as day.

LOL, there is even a YouTube video about the ethics of the fact that macros are so easy and over used! So forgive me but the whole "they don't exist I'm just really good and fast and you are just dumb, bad, don't understand and are slow" act is very hard to believe.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt (and for those reading who don't know who to believe) I will explain like you are 5.

Some abilities do not trigger any GCD (Global Cool Down or a built in mandatory pause before you can do anything else) at all when pressed, therefore, you can use it and another ability within micro seconds and both actions will perform. Therefore you can create bar swap, interrupt, light attack and block macros using the software that came with the peripherals on any gaming mouse or keyboard and get 4 attacks off in less than a second. For example 1'1' will cast ability 1 switch bars ability 2 and switch back. You can also weave light attacks in and make it more profitable.

Now, don't become angry and rage post further please. I am not flaming, I am genuinely concerned for the health of the game. I would like to know @ZOS_GinaBruno is this permissible or not? If not, what are we doing to stop players from rampantly abusing these macros in pvp as is the current state of affairs?

Thanks Gina!

FriedEggSandwich

maryriv wrote: »

I think its very amusing that so many of you are so in the dark about something so well known and used! I suspect you are trying to cover for your own macro use to prevent ZoS from addressing the issue. Or maybe you guys have been reading and practicing the tips in this article to try and misdirect, deny and bully anyone who dares bring it up by calling them ignorant, clueless etc.

It won't work. I am not lagging with a PR of 100 and FPS of 90. I also use Decay2's Improved Death Recap so you can't use that excuse either. It's plain as day.

LOL, there is even a YouTube video about the ethics of the fact that macros are so easy and over used! So forgive me but the whole "they don't exist I'm just really good and fast and you are just dumb, bad, don't understand and are slow" act is very hard to believe.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt (and for those reading who don't know who to believe) I will explain like you are 5.

Some abilities do not trigger any GCD (Global Cool Down or a built in mandatory pause before you can do anything else) at all when pressed, therefore, you can use it and another ability within micro seconds and both actions will perform. Therefore you can create bar swap, interrupt, light attack and block macros using the software that came with the peripherals on any gaming mouse or keyboard and get 4 attacks off in less than a second. For example 1'1' will cast ability 1 switch bars ability 2 and switch back. You can also weave light attacks in and make it more profitable.

Now, don't become angry and rage post further please. I am not flaming, I am genuinely concerned for the health of the game. I would like to know @ZOS_GinaBruno is this permissible or not? If not, what are we doing to stop players from rampantly abusing these macros in pvp as is the current state of affairs?

Thanks Gina!

Potentially in theory, but despite your conviction you still don't actually have any evidence of wide spread macro use. So it's just speculation. Have you considered the possibility of mmo mice with 12 buttons under the thumb, combined with robust muscle memory? I'm not saying nobody uses macros, but I think you underestimate the capabilities of a practiced nerd. My doubt comes from the fact I have never used macros and have never encountered anyone I thought had a big advantage over me in that respect. So I conclude that even if macro use is widepread I don't believe the advantage of using them is big enough to make any difference. And how do you prove such a thing anyway?

Produce a YT video demonstrating how effective macros are in pvp, or find me one someone else has produced, and I will get on board.

Edit: notice I said pvp, macros in pve are more effective due to the inherent predictability of pve.

Gilvoth

some of the things being said here to cover up the cheats is amazing, and shockingly so far out of reality.
makes wonder where they are at in thier minds.

FriedEggSandwich

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

some of the things being said here to cover up the cheats is amazing, and shockingly so far out of reality.
makes wonder where they are at in thier minds.

Provide evidence. Speculation is pointless. If it really is that widespread then it shouldn't be that hard to find some evidence. And I don't mean evidence that macros can be used in game like the op provided, I know that, I mean evidence that they actually give an advantage in pvp and don't just gimp you because of how dynamic pvp is. Your personal conviction is not enough for me. That is reasonable.

SodanTok

So you mean macro that will swap cancel animations? Not something that would be issue like macroing two abilities together? You can do this with little experience by hand and while it would be obviously slower than by computer, the advantage is smaller than slightly faster internet, living closer to server or having better HW

I dont have any knowledge of PVP underworld, so maybe it is big deal down there. But most of my pvp fights are decided by much bigger differences be it lags or human mistakes. Someone anim canceling faster than me would be the last thing that would enrage me.

Gilvoth

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

some of the things being said here to cover up the cheats is amazing, and shockingly so far out of reality.
makes wonder where they are at in thier minds.

Provide evidence.

just watch the dudes video ...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE

FriedEggSandwich

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

some of the things being said here to cover up the cheats is amazing, and shockingly so far out of reality.
makes wonder where they are at in thier minds.

Provide evidence.

just watch the dudes video ...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE

I did watch the dudes video, it's the same one the op linked. It does nothing but prove a theoretical advantage in pve. I'm after evidence of a practical advantage in pvp. Any macro that ends in a bar swap has the potential to leave you on the wrong bar to the one you need, which would slow you down and possibly screw you over in pvp. So there is no practical advantage there. The speed of the guys actions in the video appear no faster than what is possible with my razer naga and my thumb anyway.

I have bar swap bound to button 5 on my naga (right in the middle of the button array), and skills 1-4 bound to buttons 1-4 on my naga. Skill 5 is bound to left ctrl on my keyboard. With bar swap immediately next to my skill buttons on my mouse I can pull off flawless bar swap cancelling manually, and I don't risk a forced error from a macro.

Gilvoth

we showed proof, we spoke about it, and showed how it happens. we play pvp and see it happen along with other cheats every day. all we can do is expose it on the forums and try to reach others with the information and maybe someday there will be developer fixes.
as for the comments trying to defend it, and claim is no proof, and claim is no cheat happening in not only this thread but many other threads, all i can say is i feel bad for the Golden tongue responses, and i hope those people don't lie with this much strength to themselves.

FriedEggSandwich

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

we showed proof, we spoke about it, and showed how it happens. we play pvp and see it happen along with other cheats every day. all we can do is expose it on the forums and try to reach others with the information and maybe someday there will be developer fixes.
as for the comments trying to defend it, and claim is no proof, and claim is no cheat happening in not only this thread but many other threads, all i can say is i feel bad for the Golden tongue responses, and i hope those people don't lie with this much strength to themselves.

No proof has been shown that their use is widepread. No proof has been shown that they don't screw you over in pvp, and only provide advantage with no drawback. You haven't knowingly seen anyone using macros in pvp, just someone that got the better of you which caused you to suspect they were using macros, because you haven't given any thought to how clunky macro use would be in fast-paced pvp. You can't see your opponents pc monitor therefore how can you possibly know? You can only suspect and reinforce your suspicion with speculation. The only evidence that would change my mind is a video of someone tearing it up in pvp by using macros. That video doesn't exist. I have no reason to defend macros because I already know they're not for me and would cause me to die more in pvp. And I don't care enough about pve to invest time producing and learning how to implement them into my gameplay. My muscle memory is precious to me and I believe most competent players feel the same.

Dantaria

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

just watch the dudes video ...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpZa4c-WZoE

And?

Jesus, how much time do you need to be told about GCD so you will finally understand? Take Liquid Lightning, Endless Hail pretty much any skill with long animation. Cancel animation with barswap or block and smash another skill. Big surprise! It won't fire straight off. Even LA will not fire straight off.

This is so LOL. People barswap and LA-cancel by hand. All good DDs barswap and LA-cancel by hand. It's easy-peazy. You do not need macros for it.

Okay, he programmed barswap s**t. But it's s**t, because the sequence "Skill - BS - BS - Skill - BS - BS..." is absolutely meaningless. It takes huge time and is much less effective than "Skill - LA" in PvE and "Skill - Block/Dodge (depends on situation)" in PvP.

Casting 4 abilities in a second isn't possible period. And animation cancelling/weaving is what thousands of people do with keyboard and mouse. All you need for it is good ping.

So yeah. Breaking news. Barswap/LA cancelling is in no way cheating, people do it easily on KB + M, it's just even easier with macros, but macros cannot bypass GCD.

KingYogi415

It's not hard to time a burst to kill someone within a 3 seccond time frame.

Cure > meteor > frag proc > endless furry can all hit at the exact same time, and you had better be blocking!

Malic

After 3 years in cyrodiil Ive come across some facts i'd like to share.

1. Macros exists, and are used.
2. Animation canceling is extremely effective and allows you to fire more skills quickly.
3. There are several mouses and gaming key boards that allow you to map skills making hitting them with item 2 even quicker.
4. Lag produces "slicing" this is a server side issue and its random.
5. You cannot alter the CD of skills with animation canceling.

So you could have died to a macro, but a macro cant alter the skill timing WITHOUT animation canceling. Can you macro a bar swap or block cancel? Yes.

The reality is, at least what I have seen multiple hit deaths are the exception not the rule. Ya you'll see them on tubes, those clowns are editing their clips down so you dont see the 20 min of sloppy ass play they had before they pulled it off. Also, a lot of deaths in cyrodiil can be attributable to your gearing and char choices. You simply have to be able to absorb damage in cyrodiil.

"BUT HE CC'D ME OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG"

Yes and there are pots for that. There are also skills you can slot that negate stuns from stealth. These myths about rampant macro users insta gibbing people are overstated completely. Thats not to say its not out there but no where near the prevalence people like to claim it is.

Thank you for your attention, OP I almost forgot you were there....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBlszagUKjk

Emma_Overload

maryriv wrote: »

I think its very amusing that so many of you are so in the dark about something so well known and used! I suspect you are trying to cover for your own macro use to prevent ZoS from addressing the issue. Or maybe you guys have been reading and practicing the tips in this article to try and misdirect, deny and bully anyone who dares bring it up by calling them ignorant, clueless etc.

It won't work. I am not lagging with a PR of 100 and FPS of 90. I also use Decay2's Improved Death Recap so you can't use that excuse either. It's plain as day.

LOL, there is even a YouTube video about the ethics of the fact that macros are so easy and over used! So forgive me but the whole "they don't exist I'm just really good and fast and you are just dumb, bad, don't understand and are slow" act is very hard to believe.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt (and for those reading who don't know who to believe) I will explain like you are 5.

Some abilities do not trigger any GCD (Global Cool Down or a built in mandatory pause before you can do anything else) at all when pressed, therefore, you can use it and another ability within micro seconds and both actions will perform. Therefore you can create bar swap, interrupt, light attack and block macros using the software that came with the peripherals on any gaming mouse or keyboard and get 4 attacks off in less than a second. For example 1'1' will cast ability 1 switch bars ability 2 and switch back. You can also weave light attacks in and make it more profitable.

Now, don't become angry and rage post further please. I am not flaming, I am genuinely concerned for the health of the game. I would like to know @ZOS_GinaBruno is this permissible or not? If not, what are we doing to stop players from rampantly abusing these macros in pvp as is the current state of affairs?

Thanks Gina!

Please NAME these mysterious abilities that have no cooldown! Also, feel free to post video on YouTube of someone firing 4 abilities in 1 second.

Chilly-McFreeze

ezeepeezee wrote: »

People aren't using macros. There are simple button combos in this game that allow you to weave attacks quickly and seamlessly, it just takes practice. I do a LA > ability > bash combo so quick you can't tell what it even is unless you know, because I have done it thousands of times.

Oh I think that's too generalized. I've seen some build videos from a popular 1vX'er who light attacked at every weapon swap and dark deal while just explaining his build. Surely that isn't to weave a non existant enemy to death, or is it?

LjAnimalchin

maryriv wrote: »

I think its very amusing that so many of you are so in the dark about something so well known and used! I suspect you are trying to cover for your own macro use to prevent ZoS from addressing the issue. Or maybe you guys have been reading and practicing the tips in this article to try and misdirect, deny and bully anyone who dares bring it up by calling them ignorant, clueless etc.

It won't work. I am not lagging with a PR of 100 and FPS of 90. I also use Decay2's Improved Death Recap so you can't use that excuse either. It's plain as day.

LOL, there is even a YouTube video about the ethics of the fact that macros are so easy and over used! So forgive me but the whole "they don't exist I'm just really good and fast and you are just dumb, bad, don't understand and are slow" act is very hard to believe.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt (and for those reading who don't know who to believe) I will explain like you are 5.

Some abilities do not trigger any GCD (Global Cool Down or a built in mandatory pause before you can do anything else) at all when pressed, therefore, you can use it and another ability within micro seconds and both actions will perform. Therefore you can create bar swap, interrupt, light attack and block macros using the software that came with the peripherals on any gaming mouse or keyboard and get 4 attacks off in less than a second. For example 1'1' will cast ability 1 switch bars ability 2 and switch back. You can also weave light attacks in and make it more profitable.

Now, don't become angry and rage post further please. I am not flaming, I am genuinely concerned for the health of the game. I would like to know @ZOS_GinaBruno is this permissible or not? If not, what are we doing to stop players from rampantly abusing these macros in pvp as is the current state of affairs?

Thanks Gina!

Provide proof of your claims that there are abilities that bypass gcd. If you don't please don't be shocked that people pay no attention to your crackpot theories and deride you. People do these things on console too. Is that also macros?

Coming in here and telling people that if they are good they are cheating basically is pretty much the definition of the scrub mentality.

Subversus

People have been calling my buddy out for using macros when he is simply better than them. It does provide a good viewing experience when you get to see how fast his fingers are moving irl though

Juhasow

@maryriv once again I am telling You that you cant fire off 4 abilities in 1 seconds using macros You even linked video that proves that. Have You seen that guy in video using 4 skills ? No , You've seen that guy doing bar swap then skill and then bar swap again. What You can do with macro is cancelling skill animations with block/bash/swap or add skill animation to light/heavy attacks because those 2 have separate coldowns but skills will still have 0,9 sec global cooldown which macro or any other program cant bypass and tbh from my own experience I must say learning how to animation cancell manually is not black magic and it's pretty easy and after some practice to master so dont be supprised that after over 3 years many people can do it manually. Yes there vare macro users out there I am not denying that but it looks like You have no idea what macro is doing in this game.

Any time when You get hit with 4 same abilities from 1 dude in 1 second You can be sure he had freeze caused by his weak internet or it was server lag and You can be also sure that if it was caused by weak internet then this dude have not easy live playing with such freezes.

Malic

LjAnimalchin wrote: »

maryriv wrote: »

I think its very amusing that so many of you are so in the dark about something so well known and used! I suspect you are trying to cover for your own macro use to prevent ZoS from addressing the issue. Or maybe you guys have been reading and practicing the tips in this article to try and misdirect, deny and bully anyone who dares bring it up by calling them ignorant, clueless etc.

It won't work. I am not lagging with a PR of 100 and FPS of 90. I also use Decay2's Improved Death Recap so you can't use that excuse either. It's plain as day.

LOL, there is even a YouTube video about the ethics of the fact that macros are so easy and over used! So forgive me but the whole "they don't exist I'm just really good and fast and you are just dumb, bad, don't understand and are slow" act is very hard to believe.

But, giving you the benefit of the doubt (and for those reading who don't know who to believe) I will explain like you are 5.

Some abilities do not trigger any GCD (Global Cool Down or a built in mandatory pause before you can do anything else) at all when pressed, therefore, you can use it and another ability within micro seconds and both actions will perform. Therefore you can create bar swap, interrupt, light attack and block macros using the software that came with the peripherals on any gaming mouse or keyboard and get 4 attacks off in less than a second. For example 1'1' will cast ability 1 switch bars ability 2 and switch back. You can also weave light attacks in and make it more profitable.

Now, don't become angry and rage post further please. I am not flaming, I am genuinely concerned for the health of the game. I would like to know @ZOS_GinaBruno is this permissible or not? If not, what are we doing to stop players from rampantly abusing these macros in pvp as is the current state of affairs?

Thanks Gina!

Provide proof of your claims that there are abilities that bypass gcd. If you don't please don't be shocked that people pay no attention to your crackpot theories and deride you. People do these things on console too. Is that also macros?

Coming in here and telling people that if they are good they are cheating basically is pretty much the definition of the scrub mentality.

Ditto, lets see your proof. Youre making the claim, back it up. Or are you trolling?

tommalmm

Oh my, I always have so much fun reading all that macro nonsense . Experienced players don't use macros. Basically, macros will screw you over more often than not. Even slight variations in latency can make some damage/cancel macros useless. Some people do use macros for pre fight buffing, but even that isn't common. I'd rather have full control over my actions, really.

As for slicing... You can induce it locally (simulated drops, high latency on demand, etc.) with any network testing utility. But good luck playing like that. Remember that you're just as vulnerable to attacks during such induced latency spike as any other would (so you can force multiple skills to arrive at once, but at the same time every hit placed on you during this time will arrive at once - double edged sword... plus it's sooooo unreliable, like in sometimes none of the skills will fire off at all).