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Theory Crafting - MagDK - Raw Spell Damage Build

  • Cybercore_Death
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    Asardes wrote: »
    Still, Mag DK is probably easier in vMA than stam DK since it has 2 readily available self heals and shield. Don't rush to swap on stamina because someone said so. Unless you plan on running trials for score Mag DK will be fine after the patch too. For solo and casual trial runs doesn't really make any difference. You'll just have to do an extra HA in your rotation and that's about it.

    That’s actually really good to know as well. I’ve read a few things now about the changes and the impact on MagDK, with pretty much the same account. My other option would be to run the heavy attack rotation from the other thread as that seems to hit nice numbers as well.

    From your experience with DPS toons which have you found to be the most consistent patch on patch?

    Also, have you come across any long range DK builds? I was thinking about swapping out some of the close ranged skills and trying something similar to the MagSorc Force Pulse / Crushing Shock build. Would be a case of which skills will be of the most benefit and able to compensate for the loss of whip and off balance
    I'm a Dunmer DK Damage Dealer - My that's a lot of D's
  • Asardes
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    From your experience with DPS toons which have you found to be the most consistent patch on patch?

    I've not done a lot of DPS parses since I played mostly tank till about Horns of the Reach patch, but I'd say my Magicka Sorcerer is the most reliable in general, with a simple rotation. I don't try to hit the absolute maximum, but rather to find a build that works reasonably well in most content, and mastering that, to improve upon it. I've pretty much standardized the bars on all characters by placing similar range/damage skills on the same spots. The most morph changes, as well as significant gear, skill and rotation changes were on the Magicka Templar. I've abandoned melee due to poor performance in Maelstrom, went full ranged and never looked back. On all my characters I transition seamlessly from DD to support roles, by simply changing gear and mundus.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
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  • Cybercore_Death
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    Asardes wrote: »
    From your experience with DPS toons which have you found to be the most consistent patch on patch?

    I've not done a lot of DPS parses since I played mostly tank till about Horns of the Reach patch, but I'd say my Magicka Sorcerer is the most reliable in general, with a simple rotation. I don't try to hit the absolute maximum, but rather to find a build that works reasonably well in most content, and mastering that, to improve upon it. I've pretty much standardized the bars on all characters by placing similar range/damage skills on the same spots. The most morph changes, as well as significant gear, skill and rotation changes were on the Magicka Templar. I've abandoned melee due to poor performance in Maelstrom, went full ranged and never looked back. On all my characters I transition seamlessly from DD to support roles, by simply changing gear and mundus.

    At the moment I only have my MagDK and MagSorc (both Dunmer). I’ll probsbly start a Dunmer NB next patch just to try out the new levelling system.

    Being a console player I try and do the same thing with skills between DK and Sorc. I try and keep buffs on the bumper buttons and use X, Y, B for skills and treat then as 1, 2, 3 for what order to use stuff in.

    It’ll be a lot of trial and error but was thinking a heavy attack build that uses things like Eruption, FoO on back bar (pretty standard) then Force Pulse, WoE, Stone Fist, Fire Rune etc for long range dots maybe.

    In terms of skills what do you find works best for long range (across classes)?
    I'm a Dunmer DK Damage Dealer - My that's a lot of D's
  • Asardes
    Asardes
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    In terms of skills what do you find works best for long range (across classes)?

    Heavy attacks.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
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