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Magsorc builds?

Sarato
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What is a good PvE, PvP, and dueling build for magsroc?
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  • Taleof2Cities
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    Are you looking for one all-around good set that can cover all of these?

    Or, separate gear sets for each type of content??
  • Subversus
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    Things you listed require 3 different builds...
  • Sarato
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    Subversus wrote: »
    Things you listed require 3 different builds...

    I know, I'm looking for 3 separate builds.
    Are you looking for one all-around good set that can cover all of these?

    Or, separate gear sets for each type of content??

    3 separate builds.
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  • Thogard
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    You could run necropotence + amberplasm + 1 piece monster with infused weps. It's what I run and it works great in PvP. In PvE you'd be leaving a little DPS on the table and would want to switch out amberplasm for spinners or julianos or something like that. If you want to max it out, you'd need to drop necro too, but the marginal increase in DPS at that point is insignificant.

    I love amberplasm + necropotence because you can use it for practically anything except timed vet trial runs. It's a very flexible build that offers sustain, survivability, and damage. Stam regen is king in PvP due to the sorc's major vulnerability being CC. Big shields and resto back bar make you hard to kill, and a twilight Tormenter pet does a lot of dmg. That + curse + frags + mage's wrath = dead enemy

    Swap out skills for PvE.

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  • dpencil1
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    Alcast has the basics for all of these on his site. It's a good starting point.

    A build basically comprises the following elements:
    1. Gear
    2. Skills and CP
    3. Rotation / Strategy

    So do you need help deciding which gear to chase?
    There are a pretty large number of viable sets to go with. Julianos is a set that is easy to get (being crafted), and performs basically as well as most other good sets, so it is perfect to start with and may end up staying with you. It's not just a "starter set." It competes with other top tier gear sets. That said, look at sets like Necropotence, Netch's Touch, Scathing Mage, Mother's Sorrow, Spinner's, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Amberplasm, Alteration Mastery, Willpower, etc. You can usually go full damage in PvE, but need to build more for sustain in PvP.

    Do you need help deciding which skills to use?
    First you need to consider your desired playstyle. Do you want to unleash massive area damage, single target burst, crowd control, mixing damage with healing? The skills you choose for your bar need to reflect your preferred playstyle and show an understanding of the environment they will be used it. For example, ground AOE's like Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Elements are great in PvE because npc mobs are stupid and stand in them. Players will try to avoid them, so they will be much less useful in PvP. CP choices should flow out of what skills are your highest priority. Choose things that boost those.

    Do you need help developing a rotation or strategy?
    Take a look at the gear and skills you want to work with. How can you maximize your damage output in the use of these skill? Perhaps it's a static PvE rotation if buffing, dropping dots, heavy attacking, and/or using some spamable skill. Maybe it's more about getting a burst combo down for PvP and knowing how to react to things that your opponents do.

    My point in laying all of this out is that with a question such as that in the OP, the lack of specificity leads to an implied request: "Teach me how to play a mag Sorc in ESO." Not that this is a bad question, but it is something that's difficult to accomplish in a forum post, and is much broader than just suggesting one or two gear sets.
  • Ihatenightblades
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    dpencil1 wrote: »
    Alcast has the basics for all of these on his site. It's a good starting point.

    A build basically comprises the following elements:
    1. Gear
    2. Skills and CP
    3. Rotation / Strategy

    So do you need help deciding which gear to chase?
    There are a pretty large number of viable sets to go with. Julianos is a set that is easy to get (being crafted), and performs basically as well as most other good sets, so it is perfect to start with and may end up staying with you. It's not just a "starter set." It competes with other top tier gear sets. That said, look at sets like Necropotence, Netch's Touch, Scathing Mage, Mother's Sorrow, Spinner's, Lich, Shacklebreaker, Amberplasm, Alteration Mastery, Willpower, etc. You can usually go full damage in PvE, but need to build more for sustain in PvP.

    Do you need help deciding which skills to use?
    First you need to consider your desired playstyle. Do you want to unleash massive area damage, single target burst, crowd control, mixing damage with healing? The skills you choose for your bar need to reflect your preferred playstyle and show an understanding of the environment they will be used it. For example, ground AOE's like Liquid Lightning and Blockade of Elements are great in PvE because npc mobs are stupid and stand in them. Players will try to avoid them, so they will be much less useful in PvP. CP choices should flow out of what skills are your highest priority. Choose things that boost those.

    Do you need help developing a rotation or strategy?
    Take a look at the gear and skills you want to work with. How can you maximize your damage output in the use of these skill? Perhaps it's a static PvE rotation if buffing, dropping dots, heavy attacking, and/or using some spamable skill. Maybe it's more about getting a burst combo down for PvP and knowing how to react to things that your opponents do.

    My point in laying all of this out is that with a question such as that in the OP, the lack of specificity leads to an implied request: "Teach me how to play a mag Sorc in ESO." Not that this is a bad question, but it is something that's difficult to accomplish in a forum post, and is much broader than just suggesting one or two gear sets.

    Dude i dont know about alcast builds lately. He has been recommending some noob friendly gear for end game content and its really not that great builds.

    For example his mag sorc build 5 netches 5 julianos 1 iceheart is atleast 8k dps short of what 5 necro 4 moon 2 llambris or 2 maw is.

    Hes definitely a great player who plays with other great players who all benefit from each other so it helps to have that.

    tbh pet sorc builds are highest dps period for sorcs its the way to go zos is basicly forcing you to do it or lose out on 8k dps.

    If you reallllllllllly want to avoid pet sorc dont go the netches route if you want max burst dps and sustained dps go lightening back bar/inferno front bar throw crystal frag back on bar

    5 scathing mage
    5 julianos
    1 iceheart

    Lover mundus.

    If you are not going pet sorc scathing is way to go. Gives raw spell damage with high uptime since you spam force pulse to proc frags .

    Plus julianos is nice you will have to double bar it so no vma staff for this setup.

    With orbs and ele drain you should be able to pull 35k dps with this set up easily with no pet
  • Integral1900
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    Almost as many ways as there are players and other folks have covered it far better than me, but other than always have a shield and get used to lightning damage there is one thing I'd better mention... also there is a rant coming...

    Necropotence gets touted as some kind of doomsday set but it ain't, considering the cost of buying it or the time needed to farm the blasted thing the results are pretty poor. Also you have to have some thick as a plank pet active and put up with either that god awful motif or an equally uninspired costume... seriousely, how can a game with so many stunning crafting motifs end up with so many boring costumes!
  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I'm still getting roughly 36-37k self buffed on dummy (using ele drain myself), before update was between 39-41k so about a 4K nerf I'd say. Not using mines as obviously they inflate your score and only good on dummy.

    This with the old setup:
    5 necro (nerf)
    4 moon (sharp w wpn dmg enchant)
    2 monster (illambris or grothdar on dummy)
    1 VMA sharp (nerf)
    Thief mundu (nerf)

    Worth noting I've not bothered wasting gold as of yet, so I'm curious what the next better setup is, I've heard it includes infused with shock enchant and no VMA
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  • Fignutz821
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    Pulled 34k self buffed with 5 juli, 5 infal, 1 ice heart, and vma back bar
    CR 561+
    LV 50 Nord Dk tank/stam DPS (stormproof)
    LV 50 High Elf Sorc DPS (flawless)
    LV 50 Argonian Templar Helaer (yes its a lizard, SMH)
    LV 50 Breton NB magicka DPS (stormproof)
    LV 50 Imperial Stamplar (Jabicus)
    LV 50 khajit Stamblade (Panthrro from the thunder cats)
    LV 50 Redguard stamsorc (stormproof/AD spy)
    LV 50 Dark Elf Magic DK (stormproof/ DC spy)

    All characters are NA EP xbox1 (I bleed red)
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