ESO need a faster and more fluid combat

Agalloch · August 2017

The combat after Morrowind and especially after HOTR become to slow . Also the gap between the hard content and the rest of it has increased. Our damage was nerfed and also the combat was nerfed. Many people are not doing trials or veteran dungeons because of this nerfs and also because the combat is so slow....

We need a faster and more fluid combat.

Invincible · August 2017

Most of the people capable of farming vma got the gear they needed years ago and have no reason to go back. ESO combat is extremely fast paced if your animation cancelling correctly.

But I do agree. Animation cancelling as a part of the game design is lame. I'd prefer global cds like wow.

Ackwalan · August 2017

Invincible wrote: »

Most of the people capable of farming vma got the gear they needed years ago and have no reason to go back. ESO combat is extremely fast paced if your animation cancelling correctly.

But I do agree. Animation cancelling as a part of the game design is lame. I'd prefer global cds like wow.

Animation cancelling was never meant to be part of the game. It is a broken mechanic, and after multiple attempts to fix it, ZOS just gave up on it.

Marabornwingrion · August 2017

Ackwalan wrote: »

Invincible wrote: »

Most of the people capable of farming vma got the gear they needed years ago and have no reason to go back. ESO combat is extremely fast paced if your animation cancelling correctly.

But I do agree. Animation cancelling as a part of the game design is lame. I'd prefer global cds like wow.

Animation cancelling was never meant to be part of the game. It is a broken mechanic, and after multiple attempts to fix it, ZOS just gave up on it.

And I'm glad that they didn't fix it. Without animation cancelling and after all these sustain nerfs in Morrowind ESO combat would be even more slower and boring than it already is.

Thogard · August 2017

Astrid_V wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Invincible wrote: »

Most of the people capable of farming vma got the gear they needed years ago and have no reason to go back. ESO combat is extremely fast paced if your animation cancelling correctly.

But I do agree. Animation cancelling as a part of the game design is lame. I'd prefer global cds like wow.

Animation cancelling was never meant to be part of the game. It is a broken mechanic, and after multiple attempts to fix it, ZOS just gave up on it.

And I'm glad that they didn't fix it. Without animation cancelling and after all these sustain nerfs in Morrowind ESO combat would be even more slower and boring than it already is.

Yup.

Plus, without animation cancelling, nobody would ever light attack. ever. lol.

ValkynSketha · August 2017

I agree, with each update, they kill the fun more and more with their stupid changes.

Jade1986 · August 2017

The only thing I think they should do is add an ability chain tutorial to the in game manual. Other than that, i am pretty happy where it is.

Invincible · August 2017

Has anyone here tried BDO? The abilities are long but you become invincible for 0.3 or 1.7 for instance, however long it takes the animation to complete. It's a very interesting system. Anima cancelling may not be intended but every build online is designed around it.

FakeFox · August 2017

I don't see how the game should have become slower with HotR. Light attack builds still do 2 actions per second and heavy attack builds 1. Sustain didn't get nerfed either. I don't get your point at all.

I personally do more DPS now, but I guess that's nothing you can generalize.

Jhalin · August 2017

The combat is slow because ZoS intentionally made it that way with sustain changes. They aren't gonna bring the fun fighting back

Asardes · August 2017

You can still weave mostly light attacks instead of heavies if you run a recovery mundus and/or consumable. And there is a cooldown on abilities. I think it's about 0.8s or so. Just look at some of the top players doing vMA on stamina builds and see how fast they actually are.

Agalloch · August 2017

Heavy Attack meta and the sustain issues slowed the combat .

dsalter · August 2017

animation cancelling is what did this to begin with.
cant fix it? bull.
speed up animations and abilities so that if you tried to animation cancel you'd end up not only fail, but burn resources heavily.
when you cancel something you STOP doing it, not follow through faster.
[cancel
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verb
1.
decide or announce that (a planned event) will not take place.
"he was forced to cancel his visit"
synonyms: call off, abandon, scrap, drop; More
2.
(of a factor or circumstance) neutralize or negate the force or effect of (another).
"the electric fields may cancel each other out"]

Huyen · August 2017

Ackwalan wrote: »

Invincible wrote: »

Most of the people capable of farming vma got the gear they needed years ago and have no reason to go back. ESO combat is extremely fast paced if your animation cancelling correctly.

But I do agree. Animation cancelling as a part of the game design is lame. I'd prefer global cds like wow.

Animation cancelling was never meant to be part of the game. It is a broken mechanic, and after multiple attempts to fix it, ZOS just gave up on it.

Wrong. They never said it was a broken mechanic. They admitted it was a non-intended mechanic, and they never tried to fix it, because and I quote "its not game-breaking". So either get used to it, or move on.