1-50 lvl BGs in HotR?

Chelister

Is it true that with the upcoming release of HotR there will be added separate BGs for 1 - 50 levels?

Feanor

First of a all HotR was released already, and second BGs don't have a 1-50 queue.

Chelister

Feanor wrote: »

First of a all HotR was released already, and second BGs don't have a 1-50 queue.

Isn't 29th the release date for consoles?

Feanor

Right. I always forget the consoles. Apologies. Regardless BGs will not feature a separate 1-50 queue.

Chelister

Feanor wrote: »

Right. I always forget the consoles. Apologies. Regardless BGs will not feature a separate 1-50 queue.

Don't worry, you are not alone

wendal

Pretty sure there is an under 50 option on PC, I was playing it a week or two ago iirc. It's more than likely 10-49 as opposed to 1-50 though, same as lowbie cyrodill.

pauli133

I'm no expert, but...

Chelister

wendal wrote: »

Pretty sure there is an under 50 option on PC, I was playing it a week or two ago iirc. It's more than likely 10-49 as opposed to 1-50 though, same as lowbie cyrodill.

pauli133 wrote: »

I'm no expert, but...

I didn't get it. What is the difference Below Level 50 and Non-Champion for 10-50? Non-Veteran BGs are also non-CP, right?

TyroneShoelaces

Below level 50, means there's no level 50's in there.
Unfortunately, that queue is broken, or nobody is using it.

Chelister

TyroneShoelaces wrote: »

Below level 50, means there's no level 50's in there.
Unfortunately, that queue is broken, or nobody is using it.

So the first option is Below level 50 (10-49)
Second option is Non-Champion (10-50). By including 50 there, does it mean it's from level 10 to 630CP?

misfitmanic

Chelister wrote: »

TyroneShoelaces wrote: »

Below level 50, means there's no level 50's in there.
Unfortunately, that queue is broken, or nobody is using it.

So the first option is Below level 50 (10-49)
Second option is Non-Champion (10-50). By including 50 there, does it mean it's from level 10 to 630CP?

Yes, and since CP is disabled, the biggest difference is the gear. In the 10-49 queue, all players are equipped with gear that is under level 50. In the 10-50 NO CP queue, the lvl 50 players have access to max lvl gear.

Compare the stats from lvl 49 gear to lvl 50 CP160 gear and see what a difference those two queues can make.

Chelister

misfitmanic wrote: »

Chelister wrote: »

TyroneShoelaces wrote: »

Below level 50, means there's no level 50's in there.
Unfortunately, that queue is broken, or nobody is using it.

So the first option is Below level 50 (10-49)
Second option is Non-Champion (10-50). By including 50 there, does it mean it's from level 10 to 630CP?

Yes, and since CP is disabled, the biggest difference is the gear. In the 10-49 queue, all players are equipped with gear that is under level 50. In the 10-50 NO CP queue, the lvl 50 players have access to max lvl gear.

Compare the stats from lvl 49 gear to lvl 50 CP160 gear and see what a difference those two queues can make.

That is right, if we judge by stats CP160 gear is far more superior to the gear below level 49. However, isn't there the scale up thing present in PVP? I am not sure how it is called, but it scales gear and stats to specific number. This is concerning level 1-49 players participating in 1-50 BG. Isn't their gear going to be scaled up to 160CP so to match those above level 49

wendal

That's true, battle leveling is also increased at lower levels and takes into account the quality of your gear (from what I remember). So a level 11 for example in legendary armour sets will get a massive boost, but obviously have less skills and passive abilitys too choose from .This battle leveling buff also applies in 10-49 bracket and the open world pve. There is an indicator on your character sheet under your name which shows in 1-5 stars how effective your gear is, I'd suggest keeping your gear up to date every 5-10 levels depending on how effective/ competitive you wish to be.
Lowbie BG are just as unforgiving as joining the 50+, you will face premade teams and experienced players. On the plus side you don't have to deal with monster sets and the majority of folk will not invest in legendary upgraded gear until endgame.

Soleya

Battle leveling for below 50 players ends up yielding better stats than Max level player in max gear.

The closer you get to level 50 the lower your stats get.

For example, a level 30 in all level 30 purple gear has WAY better stats than CP160 in CP160 gold gear.

A level 40 in level 40 gear has lower stats than the above level 30. This is to balance out the extra skills and passives you gain at higher levels.

The main difference is the CP160 player most likely has better sets (Monster set, maelstrom/master, trial sets, etc).

BOP sets are too difficult to get for below 50 before you out level them. So your more likely to have crafted and overland BOE sets. Or with some players, must trash items they pick up from doing content.

wheem_ESO

I played the level 1-49 BGs on PC/NA a bit when I was leveling my Magicka DK a month or so ago, and it was completely ruined by heavily twinked-out characters. If someone is legitimately new to the game, or leveling an alt with crafted blue gear with the Training trait (like I was), they can forget about being competitive with those people who wasted tens of thousands of gold on gear/upgrades for their level 30-49 characters. There were multiple times that I saw the twink characters doing literally triple the "regular" players' damage, even if they weren't actually playing more skillfully; the per-hit damage was just absurdly high.