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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Vmsa rng

Sotomaior
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Seven,seven shields and maces in the last seven runs.
Is that what you call RNG dear Zos?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
  • r3ap3rsg
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    I agree my last two runs I pulled a Resto Staff Powered same traits as well. I think judging by the achievement you get when you complete VMA that says under 1% of people have it completed that maybe the RNG system needs to be changed. Instead of having it go by chance have it give you the same weapon and trait you are using when you complete the final boss. BIS should not be earned by chance it should be earned by skill and it is BS that potentially you can farm it indefinitely and never get the weapon and trait you are looking for. How about we worry more about the other 99% of people's feelings in this game then the .5% that have what they wanted because they got lucky and don't want anyone else to have it. This is coming from someone that only does endgame content and hits 40K without it. Not everyone that plays this game has an unlimited amount of time to play and farm. I preordered this game and probably have spent upward of $2000 on this game I'm an ESO Plus member and I want to be able to jump on and do what I want I don't want to be forced to grind things over and over again when there is so much other content I could be doing and enjoying. So if you want a dagger and axe sharpened then jump on that character of yours and beat VMA with a dagger and axe sharpened. Make sure your not on your bow bar when the finial boss dies
  • shreek1
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    I get the feeling that ZOS is perfectly happy with all aspects of how vMA works. I started playing a year ago and there's never been any hint of feedback from them on changes they'd make other than 'we're considering something', which never materializes. And considering so few players complete it anyway, changing the dynamic probably isn't worth their effort.
    Edited by shreek1 on August 22, 2017 4:20PM
  • Asardes
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    I know at some point they changed the loot table. There used to be only 1 weapon in the chest, even if it was 1H, now they are always 2, or one and a shield. The shield as specific drop makes no sense since it's part of the Permafrost set, and in the current patch you will always get a weapon or shield from one of the 6 sets on top of the Maelstrom ones. It should be included as secondary drop only. An odd thing I noticed is that I get stamina weapons about ~80% of the time. Not sure if it's a quirk or the RNG is weighed that way since the sample is still small: 3 staves in 15 runs.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • r3ap3rsg
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    shreek1 wrote: »
    I get the feeling that ZOS is perfectly happy with all aspects of how vMA works. I started playing a year ago and there's never been any hint of feedback from them on changes they'd make other than 'we're considering something', which never materializes. And considering so few players complete it anyway, changing the dynamic probably isn't worth their effort.

    Precisely my point most people I know don't try to complete it because they figure they won't get what they are looking for so it's not worth the bother to attempt it. If VMA was more rewarding then people would attempt it more. Still not everyone will be able to beat it but the ones that do should get what they were looking for and honestly even when you get what your looking for is 1K extra dmg really worth all that work LOL so ya that weapon should be more OP then it is and it should be guaranteed you get it if you are good enough to complete it!

  • Asardes
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    Well I only started playing vMA because I wanted to improve my gameplay. The only sacrifice I've made for it was dropping out of all group content until I improve it sufficiently. It's not a bad deal since it takes me 1h10m-1h20m to complete at a relaxed pace with minimum potion usage. I think with more practice I will be able to drop under 1h. It has been only 10 days since my first completion. It takes less time than 3 vet HM pledges (I have almost all useful gear from those) and about 30% more than a vAA/vHRC trial run (not considering the time wasted waiting for people to join) so I consider it time well spent. My overall long term gear is simply playing more efficiently: achieving more and with less resources in less time.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • r3ap3rsg
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    Most dungeons I complete in 15 minutes or less except for the 4 hard ones which only take about 30 minutes on HM. I have completed all craglorn trials in under 40 minutes and I enjoy group content. I don't enjoy solo content so much which is why I'm playing an MMO in the first place. Your VMA times are pretty good considering how many times you say you've completed it. I think everyone is missing the big picture here though it's not about how long it takes or wether it's to hard or not it's about the fact that there is no guarantee you will ever get the weapon you were looking for. So skill technically isn't getting you anywhere in the only content in the game where solo skill is required.......
  • Asardes
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    Well, I'm basically looking for a way to reduce my play time in the long run. Running vMA means I'm not dependent on anyone. Almost 2 years of playing group content every day have left me bored badly. I can't stand entering some of them anymore. When I get bored by vMA too I'll cut the times even further to just the crafting writs until the boredom wears off :)
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
    vMA (The Flawless Conqueror) | vVH (Spirit Slayer & of the Undying Song) | vDSA | vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vMoL | vAS+1 | Emperor

    PC-EU CP 3000+
    41,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Pact Veteran Trade: Exemplary
    Traders of the Covenant: God of Sales
    Tamriels Emporium: God of Sales
    Valinor Overflow: Trader
    The Traveling Merchant: Silver


    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Sotomaior
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    Got my second lightning staff today....powered!
    First was defending.
    A friend of mine got an inferno precise in his first run.
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