99% Noobs are greedy. So, I don't want to help noobs.

Koensol

I've got this feeling OP doesn't like noobs.

mewcatus

Must be a pot calling the kettle black.

templesus

This is so true. Ive met so many noobs that will not share loot that i know for a fact they dont need. One time i ran a dungeon farming for a set nobody even knows about and said in chat ahead of time i needed it. A 200 cp responds with "Me too so not giving you my pieces" and didnt ask for pieces from other people once throughout the dungeon. Obvious lie.

Huyen

Only noobs are greedy. Right...so everyone that is charging to much at the guild-traders to make a ton of money are noobs too? Guess the game is 100% noob-based then. Good to know...

Thrymbauld

Not sure I'm seeing the noobs as the greedy ones thing. I saw plenty of "veterans" trying to get 100k for sharpened weapons that'd tank in a couple hours with this last patch, hoping somebody out there hadn't read the notes. That borders on griefing and blows a 2k ask right out of the water.

Now that said, trying to charge somebody for a dungeon drop you're not going to use is in pretty poor taste. They'd make my ignore list simply to guarantee that I never saw that person again. No, nobody needs two thousand gold more than they need good networking, let's spare the "but noobs need gold" BS, there's more than a few ways in this game to make 2k in ten minutes for even the nubliest of scrubs.

Be the cool guy and give the stuff away and someday you get a rez in Cyrodil, a spot in a raid, a group good enough to land you that trial with a 50k motif in it, whatever. Be the loser that wants a pittance now and you're all but guaranteeing you won't see the real valuable stuff later.

bloodthirstyvampire

The guy wants some spare change jeez

tommalmm

I've never charged anyone for a dungeon/trial drop nor have I ever been charged. Even for popular sets if I don't need them.

The only time I refuse to share is when people use addons like group loot and then DEMAND to have the drop handed to them... But that's an attitude issue... Plus I don't really like people spying on me (kinda like a stranger searching my pockets for a spare change I may or may not need). Still, if people are civil about it, are friendly during a dungeon, I usually share anyway.

The_Protagonist

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

So you are saying that you are that one percent... hmmm... I wonder...

I've had my share of greedy elites in random dungeons and guilds, the one thing I've observed is that they all complain about noobs. They just makes them go all mad and crazy, like a dog chasing a car, but once it catches the car, it wouldn't know what to do. An elite (self proclaimed) behaves as such when it meets a noob.

Don't be that guy, you can just kick them and be done with it, no need to show this elitism here just to pat yourself on the back and remind everyone how elite you (think) are.

A better way to is say that it would be a good idea if ground rules are given just before starting off with the dungeon, or just play with your guildies. If you went for a random dg then face it with honor and dignity.

Just my opinion, no ill intent towards anyone here, just my take on the I hate so or We hate so or we kick so

Mineria

It's really simple, if you don't want to help noobs don't help them, making a forum thread about it won't solve it.

anitajoneb17_ESO

If you don't agree to a price, just refuse the deal. No need to put a judgement onto anyone. Also, noone is ever forced to give you nor to sell you anything, especially when you've watched into their drops without their expressed authorization.
And finally, just because one or two newbies have behaved this way doesn't mean that 99% of newbies do or will.
And also, maybe it has occurred to you that newbies, being newbies, have no real clue of prices ingame ?

Slick_007

Thrymbauld wrote: »

Not sure I'm seeing the noobs as the greedy ones thing. I saw plenty of "veterans" trying to get 100k for sharpened weapons that'd tank in a couple hours with this last patch, hoping somebody out there hadn't read the notes. That borders on griefing and blows a 2k ask right out of the water.

borders on griefing? do you even know what griefing is?

Now that said, trying to charge somebody for a dungeon drop you're not going to use is in pretty poor taste. They'd make my ignore list simply to guarantee that I never saw that person again. No, nobody needs two thousand gold more than they need good networking, let's spare the "but noobs need gold" BS, there's more than a few ways in this game to make 2k in ten minutes for even the nubliest of scrubs.

since everyone gets loot off the same bosses, why should someone else give you their drop for free? you seriously think they couldnt get another group because you cracked the *** over they wouldnt give you their drop for free?

Be the cool guy and give the stuff away and someday you get a rez in Cyrodil, a spot in a raid, a group good enough to land you that trial with a 50k motif in it, whatever. Be the loser that wants a pittance now and you're all but guaranteeing you won't see the real valuable stuff later.

you think because they didnt give out free loot in dungeons that people wont rez them in cyrodil? most people arent as petty as you are. and if you were on my team and refusing to rez someone over something so petty, you'd be the one people have an issue with. you tell others to be the 'cool guy' but then act like this? take your own advice.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

I completely agree, a lot of low CP players have asked gold for trash gear. The mentality of higher CP players is that most of them will give gear for free (unless super rare). That's one of the many reasons I kick low CP players in every dungeon (or leave myself as they don't deserve to be carried).

Bryong9ub17_ESO

So you had one bad experience at that some how turns into 99%?

I been playing this game for years and I run daily dungeons and I would have to say it's closer to 1% that are greedy. Just saying.

P.s. Everyone was a noob at some point. Or have you forgot that?

Sibenice

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

Your crappy attitude is a major reason for why I haven't bothered to reach out to anyone to do dungeons with. Haven't done a one

Well then you're really missing out. And you can use group finder to group with ransoms.

If you don't want to deal with the 'attitude' of other players, you can simply turn chat off.

Are you kidding me? All you have to do is read the very frequent comments on this forum about how terrible PUGs are. As for turning of chat in a dungeon. .. how do you expect that to turn out? Not trying to be an ass here, just realistic.

The forums are where people come to complain about things. Most dungeons actually turn out fine but those aren't as interesting to talk about as the 3% that are train wrecks. Normal dungeons especially are so easy that you can solo/duo them. So in a random group you just sort of run through them and things die.

thewaywardone

I feel ridiculously lucky... granted, I'm not very far along in the game yet but so far every dungeon I've run, all the people have been very generous and quick to share/pass to others without much fuss or discussion.

I had actually been thinking how refreshing a change this game has been. Haha.

max_only

thewaywardone wrote: »

I feel ridiculously lucky... granted, I'm not very far along in the game yet but so far every dungeon I've run, all the people have been very generous and quick to share/pass to others without much fuss or discussion.

I had actually been thinking how refreshing a change this game has been. Haha.

That is how it is most of the time. People only come to the forums to complain about rare bad experiences. No one comes to the forum to say "Ran 3 pledges today, finished them all in a timely manner. Had to wait a bit for some to do the quest but eh who cares. All my drops were reinforce or well-fitted, but someone got a divine sash and gave it to me."

ArchMikem

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

BlazingDynamo wrote: »

Should of told him it was a 5k charge to beat the last boss and kicked him if he didn't pay...

Unfortunately, We traded the gears after last boss.
If I knew at the beginning, I would kick him without asking.

Trading Loot freely in a Group Dungeon is an unspoken "rule". It's more like a community guideline but you can't expect EVERYONE to either know that or go along with that. Some people are gonna want something for their Loot and that's not a reason to be kicked. Really, 2k for a piece with a good trait? That's something you get PO'd over?

Riptide

Hah, right? 2k is nothing. Maybe dude was strapped.

Honestly I offer a tip on items without being asked anyway. 5k or so. I mean, its not much but my way of saying thanks.

And I've given nice pieces to folks who immediately leave group without a word. Shrug.

There is a lot of gray area as far as courtesy.

I put irritating people on ignore so I don't get matched with them again and let them vanish into the aether.

AhPook_Is_Here

99% of noobs are ducks. I am a duck but I am not a noob. Therefore I am the 1%.

Diminish

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

And here you are on the forums crying over spending 2k for a Divines piece... You realize that common divines gear sells for that just for research purposes in traders? You should have just bought it if you wanted it.

I ran Darkshade 2 with a PUG about a week ago trying to get Netches and some random got a precise staff to drop. I offered to buy it and he wanted 200k. This fits your story perfectly since it was way over priced and would bind in 2 hours not allowing him to sell it at all. If he said 50k I would have bought it. Instead I just left group. I didn't come on the forums thereafter to QQ over it.

Diminish

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

I've been playing for about 2 months, got my mag dk to CP182 and yes, I am broke. I would never dream of asking another player for something for nothing. We're not all like that. Your crappy attitude is a major reason for why I haven't bothered to reach out to anyone to do dungeons with. Haven't done a one. Had enough of that garbage in GW2. Hope I never run into anyone in game with your attitude. You need to lose it. Its not good for the game.

Welcome to the game. Are you on PS4 NA by chance? If so ill PUG some dungeons with you if you want. My loot is your loot. I have nearly every dungeon set in divines, impen, and infused as it is. BoP ruined the need to be an ass about loot in dungeons.

Diminish

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

Blanco wrote: »

MudcrabSammich wrote: »

VinyParsley2016 wrote: »

Just ran a dungeon with randoms. One guy is collecting Hircine gear set, which is not very popular set. I and a CP 600+ healer gave every Hircine we got, for free. A CP170 DPS got a divines sash, and want 2k.
Actually, he is not the only greedy noob I've met. And I found 99% greed guys are noobs. That's why I don't like noobs, I don't want to help noobs, I want to kick every noob from dungeon.

Your crappy attitude is a major reason for why I haven't bothered to reach out to anyone to do dungeons with. Haven't done a one

Well then you're really missing out. And you can use group finder to group with ransoms.

If you don't want to deal with the 'attitude' of other players, you can simply turn chat off.

Are you kidding me? All you have to do is read the very frequent comments on this forum about how terrible PUGs are. As for turning of chat in a dungeon. .. how do you expect that to turn out? Not trying to be an ass here, just realistic.

I PUG daily. It's not as bad as people make it sound.

BrightOblivion

If someone says they're looking for something, I'll normally give it to them free of charge (hey, I don't need it. Why should I charge them for freeing up an inventory space?) If they do the same in return, awesome. If they want a few k for an item I'm looking for, alright. I'll pay it. I'll probably make that back just selling the trash from the day's pledges. At this point, if someone asked 5 or 10k for a worm cult ring, I'd probably jump at it. Granted, this is after 7 runs of veteran Vaults of Madness today with nothing to show for it, so I might be a smidge desperate at this point.

In that vein, the last thing I want to see is all the loot everyone else got. If I don't know, I can just assume 21 other people haven't gotten a ring of the worm cult today, either, or possibly had their own healer who was super desperate for it. It may make me hate RNGesus and want to scream, but I can live with that. To know how for a fact how close I came to it? That would be absolutely maddening. Not to mention that the addon just seems really creepy. Keep your eyes out of my backpack, man.

oranje_elf

I was once running after a particular weapon, and I gave 100k for it even if it was given to me for free in a pug group - I was so-o-o-o happy to finally stop grinding. If he asked me 2k for that, he would lost 98k ;-).

Mureel

Slick_007 wrote: »

i refuse to help anyone, noob or not, that refuses to say please when begging for stuff. so thats like, almost everyone.
makes you wonder how those people were brought up

Haha SO true xD

Some rando: I need that neck, Opens Trade.
Me: Sorry! I need it for the alt I'm gonna make in a minute!

AdicusDio

If I'm running an oddball dungeon to try a different set, and say "if any one gets xxxx and they don't want it, I'd gladly take it". That right there sets the precedence. If people wanna give you gear, they realize it's no cost. If they end up with like 4 pieces to offer, I'll toss in some gold. Most refuse the gold though. If others are asking, I'll gladly give set pieces away w/o charging. If they want to offer some junk gear to decon, I'll take that. Gold I'll refuse.

Everyone was new at some point. And everyone should remember how hard gold is to earn in the beginning (knowing nothing) and even more so when not in a quality trading guild(s) yet. I haven't seen people charging though in at least a year. If you really need to grind gear, do it with friends or guildmates.

SoLooney

It all depends, unless I need the gear, I probably wont pick it up or keep it to decon for purple mats. I never advertise gear anymore in dungeons unless someone asks politely for it and Ill probably give it away. what gets me sometimes is when I give away items, dont even get a thank you of any kind, they just take and leave, youre welcome!

Many players expect handouts or carries in dungeons and trials. Note to those players, all the top players worked hard to get their gear to get their dps up, hate players who refuse to help themselves. Exactly why I hate pugging dungeons and esp trials, all those pugged trial groups, voice and text chat is just spammed with looking for two fanged armor or vicious ophidian weapons, everyone running the trial wants the same exact stuff as you, you better be ready to pay some coin. Just turns into a auction bid mess with everyone arguing over loot.

I can understand the greed cause we were all there at one point without BiS gear, but yea. the greed from noobs is a real turn off from the game, which is why I enjoy the content with guildies and friends