Using A Restro Staff For Healing, In PvP. is Confusing

Serjustin19

I love the healing ward, as well as Blessings of Restoration. However my allies don't survive much. I wanted to see if there is another skill, that's when I saw 1have 1 skill that is unmorphed. Easy to use and easy to spam. But this skill is very in accurate (I think) Yet why is it so much powerful, especially way more so than my life giver?

I don't understand as well I'm aware of my healing is halved in PvP. Why couldn't my Blessings of Restoration be powerful, instead of my unmorphed regeneration skill (ran out of skill points to morph) Evermore so why is my Life Giver Ult way less? I don't understand and confusing

leepalmer95

One your using the wrong morph of the resto ult.

The other morph is a lot stronger. Resto ult automatically heals the lowest hp targets for a large amount, the other morph gives that target 30% dmg reduction while healing and 15% crit dmg. It's very strong.

I'm confused about what your asking here? Your comparing grand healing to what exactly?

Grand healing heals a small amount over X seconds in a area.

Blessing heals X amount instantly in an area infront of you. A burst heal.

Regeneration is another heal over time that heals less than grand healing but sticks onto the user and heals for longer and overall more.

Waffennacht

I'm confused by your confusion lol

Regeneration is a heal over time, it just shows what the total heal is over the 20 secs

Panacea will heal for the listed amount per ticket

If you were to add all of the healing ticks and compare to Regen it's 15,147 for regen and 44k - ish for Panacea

Malic

Geez pal spam healing springs, you'll be a general rank by christmas.

Beardimus

It's a confusing thread but pointers above make sense

Serjustin19

leepalmer95 wrote: »

One your using the wrong morph of the resto ult.

The other morph is a lot stronger. Resto ult automatically heals the lowest hp targets for a large amount, the other morph gives that target 30% dmg reduction while healing and 15% crit dmg. It's very strong.

I'm confused about what your asking here? Your comparing grand healing to what exactly?

Grand healing heals a small amount over X seconds in a area.

Blessing heals X amount instantly in an area infront of you. A burst heal.

Regeneration is another heal over time that heals less than grand healing but sticks onto the user and heals for longer and overall more.

I'll have to reset my skills, I thought the restro ult I'm using was good. But it does makes since I should switch to the other Restro Ult (was wondering why my allies get destroyed fast, but even more odd had no trouble before Morrowind hit )

It not the grand healing, it's the unmorphed regeneration I'm comparing to all the rest. (It's To OP, not to mention spamable which I don't want to spam and Grand Spring) The rest you wrote is clear and didn't mean to confuse (I'm confused to)

Waffennacht wrote: »

I'm confused by your confusion lol

Regeneration is a heal over time, it just shows what the total heal is over the 20 secs

Panacea will heal for the listed amount per ticket

If you were to add all of the healing ticks and compare to Regen it's 15,147 for regen and 44k - ish for Panacea

This is what I'm looking for, so my Panacea is still way better than Regeneration (before I changed my Panacea to different Morph as suggested above) thank you also.

Malic wrote: »

Geez pal spam healing springs, you'll be a general rank by christmas.

By Healing Springs I think you mean the unmorphed Grand Healing? I unlocked it yesterday (after got new Cyrodiil Rank) After unlocking and using Grand Healing, I honestly don't like that skill (Haven't tried Grand Healing since need more skill points) would be awesome get General Rank though.

Beardimus wrote: »

It's a confusing thread but pointers above make sense

I didn’t honestly mean to make my thread confusing (It's making me confused to lol) However you are right, all the pointers above, does make sense and all is very helpful and grateful to. thanks everyone.

leepalmer95

Serjustin19 wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

One your using the wrong morph of the resto ult.

The other morph is a lot stronger. Resto ult automatically heals the lowest hp targets for a large amount, the other morph gives that target 30% dmg reduction while healing and 15% crit dmg. It's very strong.

I'm confused about what your asking here? Your comparing grand healing to what exactly?

Grand healing heals a small amount over X seconds in a area.

Blessing heals X amount instantly in an area infront of you. A burst heal.

Regeneration is another heal over time that heals less than grand healing but sticks onto the user and heals for longer and overall more.

I'll have to reset my skills, I thought the restro ult I'm using was good. But it does makes since I should switch to the other Restro Ult (was wondering why my allies get destroyed fast, but even more odd had no trouble before Morrowind hit )

It not the grand healing, it's the unmorphed regeneration I'm comparing to all the rest. (It's To OP, not to mention spamable which I don't want to spam and Grand Spring) The rest you wrote is clear and didn't mean to confuse (I'm confused to)

Waffennacht wrote: »

I'm confused by your confusion lol

Regeneration is a heal over time, it just shows what the total heal is over the 20 secs

Panacea will heal for the listed amount per ticket

If you were to add all of the healing ticks and compare to Regen it's 15,147 for regen and 44k - ish for Panacea

This is what I'm looking for, so my Panacea is still way better than Regeneration (before I changed my Panacea to different Morph as suggested above) thank you also.

Malic wrote: »

Geez pal spam healing springs, you'll be a general rank by christmas.

By Healing Springs I think you mean the unmorphed Grand Healing? I unlocked it yesterday (after got new Cyrodiil Rank) After unlocking and using Grand Healing, I honestly don't like that skill (Haven't tried Grand Healing since need more skill points) would be awesome get General Rank though.

Beardimus wrote: »

It's a confusing thread but pointers above make sense

I didn’t honestly mean to make my thread confusing (It's making me confused to lol) However you are right, all the pointers above, does make sense and all is very helpful and grateful to. thanks everyone.

Yeah regeneration has a high tooltip bit it's over a long period of time.

15100 over 20s is 755 healing a second. While you resto ult is 8800~ a second.

Regeneration is something you use and forget for a while skills. It adds smalls heals over a long period of time.

doslekis

Malic wrote: »

Geez pal spam healing springs, you'll be a general rank by christmas.

This.

Morph first skill to healing springs. Ever see all those green circles all over the place on the ground in cyrodiil?

Healing springs...

Follow a zerg spam that along with ward and regen and like the gentlemen before me said you'll be a general by thanksgiving.

Edit: not sure if you're a templar but their class healing ultimate - I think remembrance its called, is a fantastic aoe heal and very useful when there's an incoming bomb or when you're capping a flag,

Brutusmax1mus

Use springs over blessing(combat prayer is better). Springs(grand healing morph) has a small heal and an immediate start of 3 heals over 3 seconds. It also stacks so you can heal the same area non stop, and once is stacked by casting it as much as possible, you'll be healing for 2k(for casting) and 3x 2k for each tick each second because its stacked. So 8k per second to those in your area.

Halved for battle spirit of course.

Regeneration is great for small scale. The two morphs stack do is you're using one and another healer the other, they'll have good hot for 15 seconds.

Lexxypwns

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Use springs over blessing(combat prayer is better). Springs(grand healing morph) has a small heal and an immediate start of 3 heals over 3 seconds. It also stacks so you can heal the same area non stop, and once is stacked by casting it as much as possible, you'll be healing for 2k(for casting) and 3x 2k for each tick each second because its stacked. So 8k per second to those in your area.

Halved for battle spirit of course.

Regeneration is great for small scale. The two morphs stack do is you're using one and another healer the other, they'll have good hot for 15 seconds.

There's a bug where casting healing springs back to back cuts off 1 second of the heals. You should use a GCD between each springs cast

Brutusmax1mus

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Use springs over blessing(combat prayer is better). Springs(grand healing morph) has a small heal and an immediate start of 3 heals over 3 seconds. It also stacks so you can heal the same area non stop, and once is stacked by casting it as much as possible, you'll be healing for 2k(for casting) and 3x 2k for each tick each second because its stacked. So 8k per second to those in your area.

Halved for battle spirit of course.

Regeneration is great for small scale. The two morphs stack do is you're using one and another healer the other, they'll have good hot for 15 seconds.

There's a bug where casting healing springs back to back cuts off 1 second of the heals. You should use a GCD between each springs cast

Hmm lame bug, been going on long? Same for the other morph? I actually use that one on my pve healer. Why am i not surprised ....

DeHei

lights champion, rapid regen and healing ward are all very powerful skills in PvP.
When i dont would be a templar, i would allways prefer healing ward or dampen magic als damage shield.
Restrorationstaff is really one of the strongest PvP weapons.

Rohamad_Ali

What class are you using ? There are a lot better heals in Templar or Warden to use then that stick . Also gear . Run Transmutation and Kags for quick rezzing and some regen .

Betsararie

Have you considered running Powered on the resto staff?

After the buff the trait is significantly better.

DeHei

Blanco wrote: »

Have you considered running Powered on the resto staff?

After the buff the trait is significantly better.

powered or precise in PvE or nirnhoned in PvP is best in my opinion

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

It should be noted that the resto ulti only hits five people max per use, one a second.

DeHei

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

It should be noted that the resto ulti only hits five people max per use, one a second.

Two guys every sec and not just one

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

DeHei wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

It should be noted that the resto ulti only hits five people max per use, one a second.

Two guys every sec and not just one

It says you OR an ally and it is only one in the time I have used it in pve, so please provide video or some evidence show me that I am misinfomed.

DeHei

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

It should be noted that the resto ulti only hits five people max per use, one a second.

Two guys every sec and not just one

It says you OR an ally and it is only one in the time I have used it in pve, so please provide video or some evidence show me that I am misinfomed.

Oh sry, tested it. You are right, but the feeling is, that it heals more. At the endboss Domihaus i healed the complete group with it while staying in the firedamage shot from boss and firering outside. So i really wonder, how it heals more then the tooltip explains.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

DeHei wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

It should be noted that the resto ulti only hits five people max per use, one a second.

Two guys every sec and not just one

It says you OR an ally and it is only one in the time I have used it in pve, so please provide video or some evidence show me that I am misinfomed.

Oh sry, tested it. You are right, but the feeling is, that it heals more. At the endboss Domihaus i healed the complete group with it while staying in the firedamage shot from boss and firering outside. So i really wonder, how it heals more then the tooltip explains.

Simple answer is your feelings are wrong. Long answer is you probably had hots going and the ulti just hit the ones that needed it the most, the lowest health people. It should be noted that the Life giver one not lights champion, the that casts the other Resto ablities will hit the amount of targets that those ablities will hit, so up to 6 people.

Minno

Not going to lie, I honestly thought OP what's going to relate this to the "faction war ERP" somehow.

Now jokes aside, resto staff will add the following:
- mag Regen through block+heavy attack
- major mending proc for builds
- a strong burst heal with 8% extra DMG for anyone that is healed
- a strong group/stack hot
- a strong passive hot with a small burst heal/debuff removal.
- a strong ultimate that adds major protection

A very strong weapon line for mag builds looking to add healing they are missing, or Stam builds looking to return mag for their mag skills + strong burst ultimate heal.

Serjustin19

DeHei wrote: »

lights champion, rapid regen and healing ward are all very powerful skills in PvP.
When i dont would be a templar, i would allways prefer healing ward or dampen magic als damage shield.
Restrorationstaff is really one of the strongest PvP weapons.

Thanks for tip, I like the healing ward also. The dampen magic I haven't tried, I think. I really love restro, but others disagree of what I use.

Others rather want me be tank healer. But it won't be possible for me due to my Must have valid Internet connection all the time and when whole bunch suddenly pound on me. There I go, freezing in middle of fight. But with restro I get less pounded on. (which is very weird that I'm not a target)

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

What class are you using ? There are a lot better heals in Templar or Warden to use then that stick . Also gear . Run Transmutation and Kags for quick rezzing and some regen .

I'm a Templar, Highelf. I have 5piece transmutation set. But it's my back bar, but I'm forced to change when Horns Of Reach comes (I currently have sharpened 2 Transmutation Gold Swords)

I totally forgot about Krags, especially with the new change with spell damage added (forgot what past update) I'm thinking of switching my 5 piece Akavari Dragonguard armor, for something else. I'm starting to rely on it way more and starting to think I have no skill and keep spamming restro ult.

I was thinking of trying the new healing sets coming in Horns Of The Reach or other healing sets. But if you recommend Krags, I'll try it out thanks.

Minno wrote: »

Not going to lie, I honestly thought OP what's going to relate this to the "faction war ERP" somehow.

Now jokes aside, resto staff will add the following:
- mag Regen through block+heavy attack
- major mending proc for builds
- a strong burst heal with 8% extra DMG for anyone that is healed
- a strong group/stack hot
- a strong passive hot with a small burst heal/debuff removal.
- a strong ultimate that adds major protection

A very strong weapon line for mag builds looking to add healing they are missing, or Stam builds looking to return mag for their mag skills + strong burst ultimate heal.

Thank you for helpful tips and others whom helped me to. I been blocking while healing. But at times I run out of stamina as well as Nb fear me when I try to break free and or that Nb Ult stun after I block heal.

I've also switch to the other Restro Ult morph, (the one that was mentioned above.) Is restro heavy attack minor or major? I'M unsure (I miss the Templar major mending and both stun from luminous and blazing shard)

geonsocal

dang, I love blessing of restoration...perfect size for the area in front of keep doors, plus - any ability which involves a little staff slamming seems pretty darn useful to me

hate healing springs...as a general rule - if i have to press a button twice to get something to work, I'm not a big fan...

panacea is dirt cheap and works great - which is the preferable morph for zerging?

mutagen makes for a decent heal/purge (cheaper, less effective though, than purge)...

cuz of dungeons and occasional small scale try to make sure all abilities are unlocked...as a healer seems good to be able to accommodate any special requests...

oh yeah - I use ward ally cuz I'm worried it might work on someone else with the other morph...i want to make sure i"m getting that shield...is that not how it works?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

geonsocal wrote: »

dang, I love blessing of restoration...perfect size for the area in front of keep doors, plus - any ability which involves a little staff slamming seems pretty darn useful to me

hate healing springs...as a general rule - if i have to press a button twice to get something to work, I'm not a big fan...

panacea is dirt cheap and works great - which is the preferable morph for zerging?

mutagen makes for a decent heal/purge (cheaper, less effective though, than purge)...

cuz of dungeons and occasional small scale try to make sure all abilities are unlocked...as a healer seems good to be able to accommodate any special requests...

oh yeah - I use ward ally cuz I'm worried it might work on someone else with the other morph...i want to make sure i"m getting that shield...is that not how it works?

There is an option in the menus to change that to a single click. Look for it

Minno

Serjustin19 wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

lights champion, rapid regen and healing ward are all very powerful skills in PvP.
When i dont would be a templar, i would allways prefer healing ward or dampen magic als damage shield.
Restrorationstaff is really one of the strongest PvP weapons.

Thanks for tip, I like the healing ward also. The dampen magic I haven't tried, I think. I really love restro, but others disagree of what I use.

Others rather want me be tank healer. But it won't be possible for me due to my Must have valid Internet connection all the time and when whole bunch suddenly pound on me. There I go, freezing in middle of fight. But with restro I get less pounded on. (which is very weird that I'm not a target)

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

What class are you using ? There are a lot better heals in Templar or Warden to use then that stick . Also gear . Run Transmutation and Kags for quick rezzing and some regen .

I'm a Templar, Highelf. I have 5piece transmutation set. But it's my back bar, but I'm forced to change when Horns Of Reach comes (I currently have sharpened 2 Transmutation Gold Swords)

I totally forgot about Krags, especially with the new change with spell damage added (forgot what past update) I'm thinking of switching my 5 piece Akavari Dragonguard armor, for something else. I'm starting to rely on it way more and starting to think I have no skill and keep spamming restro ult.

I was thinking of trying the new healing sets coming in Horns Of The Reach or other healing sets. But if you recommend Krags, I'll try it out thanks.

Minno wrote: »

Not going to lie, I honestly thought OP what's going to relate this to the "faction war ERP" somehow.

Now jokes aside, resto staff will add the following:
- mag Regen through block+heavy attack
- major mending proc for builds
- a strong burst heal with 8% extra DMG for anyone that is healed
- a strong group/stack hot
- a strong passive hot with a small burst heal/debuff removal.
- a strong ultimate that adds major protection

A very strong weapon line for mag builds looking to add healing they are missing, or Stam builds looking to return mag for their mag skills + strong burst ultimate heal.

Thank you for helpful tips and others whom helped me to. I been blocking while healing. But at times I run out of stamina as well as Nb fear me when I try to break free and or that Nb Ult stun after I block heal.

I've also switch to the other Restro Ult morph, (the one that was mentioned above.) Is restro heavy attack minor or major? I'M unsure (I miss the Templar major mending and both stun from luminous and blazing shard)

Resto heavy attack is major mending. And you get extra healing if you are low health while holding a resto staff that stacks with the Templar low health healing passive while using restoration tree spells.

DeHei

Minno wrote: »

Serjustin19 wrote: »

DeHei wrote: »

lights champion, rapid regen and healing ward are all very powerful skills in PvP.
When i dont would be a templar, i would allways prefer healing ward or dampen magic als damage shield.
Restrorationstaff is really one of the strongest PvP weapons.

Thanks for tip, I like the healing ward also. The dampen magic I haven't tried, I think. I really love restro, but others disagree of what I use.

Others rather want me be tank healer. But it won't be possible for me due to my Must have valid Internet connection all the time and when whole bunch suddenly pound on me. There I go, freezing in middle of fight. But with restro I get less pounded on. (which is very weird that I'm not a target)

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

What class are you using ? There are a lot better heals in Templar or Warden to use then that stick . Also gear . Run Transmutation and Kags for quick rezzing and some regen .

I'm a Templar, Highelf. I have 5piece transmutation set. But it's my back bar, but I'm forced to change when Horns Of Reach comes (I currently have sharpened 2 Transmutation Gold Swords)

I totally forgot about Krags, especially with the new change with spell damage added (forgot what past update) I'm thinking of switching my 5 piece Akavari Dragonguard armor, for something else. I'm starting to rely on it way more and starting to think I have no skill and keep spamming restro ult.

I was thinking of trying the new healing sets coming in Horns Of The Reach or other healing sets. But if you recommend Krags, I'll try it out thanks.

Minno wrote: »

Not going to lie, I honestly thought OP what's going to relate this to the "faction war ERP" somehow.

Now jokes aside, resto staff will add the following:
- mag Regen through block+heavy attack
- major mending proc for builds
- a strong burst heal with 8% extra DMG for anyone that is healed
- a strong group/stack hot
- a strong passive hot with a small burst heal/debuff removal.
- a strong ultimate that adds major protection

A very strong weapon line for mag builds looking to add healing they are missing, or Stam builds looking to return mag for their mag skills + strong burst ultimate heal.

Thank you for helpful tips and others whom helped me to. I been blocking while healing. But at times I run out of stamina as well as Nb fear me when I try to break free and or that Nb Ult stun after I block heal.

I've also switch to the other Restro Ult morph, (the one that was mentioned above.) Is restro heavy attack minor or major? I'M unsure (I miss the Templar major mending and both stun from luminous and blazing shard)

Resto heavy attack is major mending. And you get extra healing if you are low health while holding a resto staff that stacks with the Templar low health healing passive while using restoration tree spells.

Yeah its really powerful, when you are low in ressources, you can start heavy attacks with restostaff and get for example major mending to minor mending as templar. We lost major mending, but got minor mending all time together with major mending in critical battles. I really like it

geonsocal

okay...so, when it comes to healing i'm very much still a relative noobie...i've done pledges as a healer, and have spent a bunch of time healing nameless allies in cyrodiil - but, i realize there's a bunch more to learn...

so - here comes the ignorance

Ward Ally
Call on your staff's strength to protect yourself and whichever ally has the lowest Health with a ward to absorb [x] damage.
The ward's strength is increased by up to 300%, depending on the severity of the target's wounds.
Shields ally and self.

Healing Ward
Call on your staff's strength to protect whichever ally has the lowest Health, healing them for [y] and giving them a ward to absorb [x] damage.
The ward's strength is increased by up to 300%, depending on the severity of the target's wounds.
When the ward expires, target is healed for 100% of the ward's remaining strength.
Heals target on cast and heals when ward expires.

if i were to use healing ward - is it possible when i try to use that relatively costly ability that i, the caster, may not get the healing benefit at all from using the ability?

i'm a solo player, and, as a general rule - normally my first, second and third priority is on keeping myself alive...

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

hate healing springs...as a general rule - if i have to press a button twice to get something to work, I'm not a big fan...

There is an option in the menus to change that to a single click. Look for it

thanks @Lightspeedflashb14_ESO i'll check through options to try to find it...the magicka return is pretty useful...